Project Motor Racing General Discussion

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RolexGTP
I get it for optimization purposes but man that stings for multi-class racing and just for a full grid experience offline.
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They haven't ruled out being able to mod the career championships to have more AI. It's just it could tank the console performance. I'm sure we'll find out if there's a console sweet spot or if it is truly 16 for a reason.
 
MagpieRacer
I guess fresh eyes can help. It has been mentioned that some testers just get used to certain quirks such as the track limits penalties and what not.
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I get it. I just find it amusing that we’ve had pretty much that exact Discord post every time there’s been a preview video for the last couple of months.

“Oh yeah, it’s an old build, we’ve already fixed those bugs”

I’m feeling like Bill Murray here
 
Fezzik
I get it. I just find it amusing that we’ve had pretty much that exact Discord post every time there’s been a preview video for the last couple of months.

“Oh yeah, it’s an old build, we’ve already fixed those bugs”

I’m feeling like Bill Murray here
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I noticed that in the discord immediately. They’re salesmen first and foremost I think.
 
Mr Grumpy
Which is odd because I heard that again the AI run on a more simple physics engine like PC1&2 & they have 32 cars, PC1 had even more on certain tracks on console.
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You've definitely heard wrong here then, all I've heard and what we've been told is the AI are on the same physics as the player. Specifically because of the issues they had with pCars running different/simplified physics.

Fezzik
I get it. I just find it amusing that we’ve had pretty much that exact Discord post every time there’s been a preview video for the last couple of months.

“Oh yeah, it’s an old build, we’ve already fixed those bugs”

I’m feeling like Bill Murray here
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Agreed. That kind of commenting however can't continue past launch. At least we know the re is a comprehensive day 1 patch. So we'll see what happens at launch and then those old build comments will stop being a valid excuse.
 
MagpieRacer
You've definitely heard wrong here then, all I've heard and what we've been told is the AI are on the same physics as the player. Specifically because of the issues they had with pCars running different/simplified physics.



Agreed. That kind of commenting however can't continue past launch. At least we know the re is a comprehensive day 1 patch. So we'll see what happens at launch and then those old build comments will stop being a valid excuse.
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They did at least get rid of the concrete chicane walls and the car-destroying kerbs, so some bugs definitely fixed.
 
Bojador
What I don't understand is that ps5 cpu seems to be better than the minimum pc requirements.
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It might be because of the Xbox Series S. Games released on Xbox have to have feature parity across both devices, and the Series S has a weaker CPU than the Series X (or PS5). They may have nerfed it on all consoles to keep things consistent.
 
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Fezzik
It might be because of the Xbox Series S. Games released on Xbox have to have feature parity across both devices, and the Series S has a weaker CPU than the Series X (or PS5). They may have nerfed it on all consoles to keep things consistent.
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There has been games that did not have parity between series X and S, let alone series X vs PS5.
 
Reading around and watching a video or two, I get the impression this game is running into the same issue Project CARS games had: trying to simulate so many things at once that CPUs simply can’t handle it.

That won’t be an easy fix, or may not even be fixable at all. Depends on what parts of the simulation they can cut to gain back some performance overhead. Do they simplify the AI physics a little, for example? Maybe scale down LiveTrack a bit or reduce the simulation tick rate to fewer calls per second, who knows.

Maybe things improve with a few patches but from games I’ve played and worked on in the past, I know that CPU-strained games are notoriously tough to draw performance from.
 
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PJTierney
Reading around and watching a video or two, I get the impression this game is running into the same issue Project CARS games had: trying to simulate so many things at once that CPUs simply can’t handle it.

That won’t be an easy fix, or may not even be fixable at all. Depends on what parts of the simulation they can cut to gain back some performance overhead. Do they simplify the AI physics a little, for example? Maybe scale down LiveTrack a bit or reduce the simulation tick rate to fewer calls per second, who knows.

Maybe things improve with a few patches but from games I’ve played and worked on in the past, I know that CPU-strained games are notoriously tough to draw performance from.
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True2Track apparently runs primarily off the GPU, so that shouldn’t be causing any of the CPU issues
 
hawkeyez
I noticed that in the discord immediately. They’re salesmen first and foremost I think.
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Whelp, I've been hanging out in the discord for a while, they shutdown any discussion related to the lack of radar, the win requirement for opening up MP options, and anything else particularly divisive. I guess they'll have to get the practice in shutting down discourse if the game is being released half baked.
 
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32 GT4
32 Group 5
32 Super GT
32 V8 Supercars
32 GTO
32 Multi-class
32 all the things

Can't wait to run 32 cars on full capacity circuits. :drool::lol:
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MagpieRacer
You've definitely heard wrong here then, all I've heard and what we've been told is the AI are on the same physics as the player. Specifically because of the issues they had with pCars running different/simplified physics.



Agreed. That kind of commenting however can't continue past launch. At least we know the re is a comprehensive day 1 patch. So we'll see what happens at launch and then those old build comments will stop being a valid excuse.
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I think it was a Random Callsign video on an early build, whether they've changed it? I guess people will find out soon enough when they start spinning out on puddles & the AI races on through em.
 
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Mr Grumpy
I think it was a Random Callsign video on an early build, whether they've changed it? I guess people will find out soon enough when they start spinning out on puddles & the AI races on through em.
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It's the developed who have said it. Partly why the consoles have less ai in single player.
 
syphe
Whelp, I've been hanging out in the discord for a while, they shutdown any discussion related to the lack of radar, the win requirement for opening up MP options, and anything else particularly divisive. I guess they'll have to get the practice in shutting down discourse if the game is being released half baked.
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They banned me because I called them out on trueforce support. They 100% try to avoid answering any questions that make them look bad and answer the rest but in a way that’s “don’t worry we’re working around the clock to fix that”.

I don’t care about the ban. My last comment I knew I was going to get the boot. They probably deleted the comment though about half supporting a wheel and its features but neglecting to divulge the information that yes the G Pro is supported but we haven’t implemented trueforce support yet. They leave things open ended on purpose. Even when I asked, for the sixth time they said I don’t think it is but it may be in the future.

Tell it like it is, it’s not and never will be. They sort of have an Holier than Thou approach to the replies regarding legit questions about the game.

Hopefully wreckfest 2 is a good one.
 

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