Proposed International OLR Tracks discussion

IforceV8 · Sep 30, 2005

This can be the starting point for making a standard set of OLR rules for GT4 for all forums and the next BC.

Things needed:

People with the ability to take and post pictures of questionable areas-

Willing people to work on it-

Track list-

Part 1

Apricot Hill

Apricot Hill Raceway (Reverse)

Autumn Ring

Autumn Ring (Reverse)

Autumn Ring Mini

Autumn Ring Mini (Reverse)

Beginner

Beginner Course (Reverse)

Part 2

Cathedral Rocks Trail 1

Cathedral Rocks Trail 1 (Reverse)

Cathedral Rocks Trail 2

Cathedral Rocks Trail 2 (Reverse)

Chamonix

Chamonix (Reverse)

Part 3

Circuit de la Sarthe 1

Circuit de la Sarthe 2

Citta di Aria

Clubman Stage Route 5

Clubman Stage Route 5 (Reverse)

Costa Di Amalfi

Costa di Amalfi (Reverse)

Cote d'Azur

Deep Forest Raceway

Deep Forest Raceway (Reverse)

Part 4

El Capitan

El Capitan (Reverse)

Fuji Speedway

Fuji Speedway 2005

Fuji Speedway 2005 GT

Fuji Speedway '80s

Fuji Speedway '90s

George V Paris

George V Paris (Reverse)

Part 5

Grand Canyon

Grand Canyon (Reverse)

Grand Valley East (Reverse)

Grand Valley East Section

Grand Valley Speedway

Grand Valley Speedway (Reverse)

Part 6

High Speed Ring

High Speed Ring (Reverse)

Hong Kong

Hong Kong (Reverse)

Ice Arena

Ice Arena (Reverse)

Infineon Raceway - Sports Car Version

Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Version

Part 7

Laguna Seca Raceway

MidField Raceway

Midfield Raceway (Reverse)

Motorland (Reverse)

New York

New York (Reverse)

Nürburgring Nordschleife

Part 8

Opera Paris

Opera Paris (Reverse)

Seattle Circuit

Seattle Circuit (Reverse)

Seoul Central

Seoul Circuit (Reverse)

Special Stage Route 5

Special Stage Route 5 (Reverse)

Part 9

Suzuka Circuit

Suzuka Circuit East Course

Suzuka Circuit West Course

Swiss Alps

Swiss Alps (Reverse)

Tahiti Maze

Tahiti Maze (Reverse)

Part 10

Tokyo Route 246

Tokyo Route 246 (Reverse)

Trial Mountain Circuit

Trial Mountain Circuit (Reverse)

Tsukuba

Tsukuba Circuit Wet

Twin Ring Motegi East - Short Course

Twin Ring Motegi Road Course

Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway

Twin Ring Motegi West - Short Course

what else??

Mistral · Sep 30, 2005

Track like Yosemite Rally (Cathedral) gonna hard to define. There's plenty of invisible wall at a variable distance from track's edge.

IforceV8 · Sep 30, 2005

Yeah it will but its better to do it now then after the next races are run.

eggmann · Sep 30, 2005

I think this thread should be strictly regarding track definitions, and a separate one for the rest of the rulebook. Otherwise, too cluttered. I'll lend any assistance I can, but I don't do photo mode unless I get there by accident.

IforceV8 · Sep 30, 2005

Duke cleaned it up.

Im going to start with part 1,drive the track in a nice ride and note anything that needs review.

IforceV8 · Oct 1, 2005

quoting beru

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistral

So we have to define what's legal and what is not?

Cruel world, what is the idea of doing a game with so much track on it .

IforceV8 : You wish to do a rules for all single track or one rules that will apply to all track. I think the second option is simple. Sorry for my lack of english here.

Standard rules will apply for each track,but some tracks have differences in the design that needs to be accounted for and noted.See next post for examples.

IforceV8 · Oct 1, 2005

Part 1

Apricot Hill-standard red/white rumble strips w/dirt behind.white paving stones with no other curbing behind.white line is edge of track.no access roads

Apricot Hill Raceway (Reverse)- standard red/white rumble strips w/ dirt behind.white paving stones with no other curbing behind.white line is edge of track.no access roads

Autumn Ring-blue/white rumble strips w/ dirt behind.after T2 blue/white curbing is covered with leaves,dirt behind.white line around track is not the edge of the track.runoff areas at crossover,mini track pitlane and closed off sections marked with white lines

Autumn Ring (Reverse)-blue/white rumble strips w/ dirt behind.before T1 blue/white curbing is covered with leaves,dirt behind.white line around track is not the edge of the track.runoff areas at crossover,mini track pitlane and closed off sections marked with white lines

Autumn Ring Mini-blue/white rumble strips w/ dirt behind.broken white line at pit road exit,white line is not the edge of the track

Autumn Ring Mini (Reverse)-blue/white rumble strips w/ dirt behind.broken white line at pit road exit,white line is not the edge of the track

Beginner-blue/white rumble strips w/grass behind,white line running the length of the pit wall past pit exit is one car width from the wall-should be considered edge of track.access road marked with white line.track edge is white line

Beginner Course (Reverse)-blue/white rumble strips w/grass behind,white line running the length of the pit wall from pit in to pit exit is one car width from the wall-should be considered edge of track.access road marked with white line.track edge is white line.

beru · Oct 1, 2005

Thanks Iforce, i understand pretty well now, somtime i misunderstood some meaning of a sentence or a words, in real personne it's easy, you just ask what you didn't understood, but like that, i need some practice.

I think i can take one part, should be a easy one, it's first time i'm working on that. Something like part 4.

I'll be on it.

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Mistral · Oct 1, 2005

I guess some track will required some pictures to cleary define what's out and what is not. I'm thinking about Deep Forest chicane (coming up to the first tunnel, normal direction), Fuji 2005, Autumn Ring, Suzuka, etc.

Mistral · Oct 2, 2005

I'm taking picture of Apricot Hill right now and it's how my notes look like :
EDIT : Picturing's done. Total of 66 pictures all around the track. I agree that this track may be quite easy to define and I didn't have to take so many pictures, but we will surely have to do that for some others. Cathedral, Fuji, Suzuka, Deep Forest and some more. Regarding Tahiti Maze and Swiss Alps, the limits are the wall. I think it's the hardest job to do, looking for invisible wall, etc.

Code:

Apricot Hill
 
From Start/Finish
Corner #1 : Left
Corner #2 : Left
Straight
--T1--
Corner #3 : Right
Corner #4 : Left
Corner #5 : Right
Corner #6 : Left
--T2--
Corner #7 : Left
Straight
Corner #8 : Hairpin right
Corner #9 : Left
Corner #10 : Right
--T3--
Straight
Corner #11 : Left
Corner #12 : Bus stop Right
Corner #13 : Bus stop Left
Straight
Corner #14 : Left
Straight
To Start/Finish
 
POSITION #1
PIC#1 : Start/Finish Line, looking forward
PIC#2 : Start/Finish Line, looking reverse
PIC#3 : Corner #1, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #2
PIC#4 : Start/Finish Straight + Partial Corner #1, looking reverse
PIC#5 : Corner #1, looking reverse
PIC#6 : Corner #1, looking reverse
PIC#7 : Corner #1, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #3
PIC#8 : Corner #1 Exit, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #4
PIC#9 : Corner #2, looking reverse
PIC#10 : Corner #2, looking forward
PIC#11 : Corner #2 Entrance, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #5
PIC#12 : Corner #2 Exit, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #6
PIC#13 : Straight leading to Corner #3, looking reverse
PIC#14 : Corner #3 Entrance, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #7
PIC#15 : Corner #3, looking forward
PIC#16 : Corner #3, looking forward
PIC#17 : Straight leading to Corner #4, looking forward
PIC#18 : Corner #3, looking forward
PIC#19 : Right rumblestrips leading to Corner #4, looking reverse
		 ---> Right side .while. racing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #8
PIC#20 : Corner #4, looking reverse
PIC#21 : Corner #4, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #9
PIC#22 : Corner #5, looking reverse
PIC#23 : Corner #5, looking reverse
PIC#24 : Corner #5, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #10
PIC#25 : Corner #5 Exit, looking reverse
PIC#26 : Corner #5 Exit, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #11
PIC#27 : Corner #6, looking reverse
PIC#28 : Corner #6, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #12
PIC#29 : Corner #6 Exit + Straight leading to Corner #8, looking reverse
PIC#30 : Straight leading to Corner #8, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #13
PIC#31 : Corner #7, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #14
PIC#32 : Corner #7, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #15
PIC#33 : Corner #7 Exit, looking forward
PIC#34 : Corner #7 Exit, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #16
PIC#35 : Straight, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #17
PIC#36 : Straight, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #18
PIC#37 : Corner #8 Entrance, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #19
PIC#38 : Corner #8, looking overall
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #20
PIC#39 : Corner #8 Exit, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #21
PIC#40 : Corner #9, looking reverse
PIC#41 : Corner #9, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #22
PIC#42 : Corner #9 Exit, looking reverse
PIC#43 : Corner #10, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #23
PIC#44 : Corner #10, looking reverse
PIC#45 : Corner #10 Exit, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #24
PIC#46 : Straight, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #25
PIC#47 : Corner #11 Entrance, looking forward
PIC#48 : Corner #11, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #26
PIC#49 : Corner #11 Exit + Corner #12 Entrance, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #27
PIC#50 : Corner #12 + Corner #13, looking reverse
PIC#51 : Corner #12, looking forward
PIC#52 : Corner #12, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #28
PIC#53 : Corner #13 Exit, looking forward
PIC#54 : Corner #13, looking reverse
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #29
PIC#55 : Corner #13 Exit + Straight, looking reverse
PIC#56 : Straight, looking forward
PIC#57 : Corner #13 Exit + Straight, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #30
PIC#58 : Corner #14 Entrance, looking reverse
PIC#59 : Corner #14 Entrance, looking forward
PIC#60 : Corner #14, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #31
PIC#61 : Corner #14, looking reverse
PIC#62 : Corner #14 Exit, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #32
PIC#63 : Corner #14 Exit, looking reverse
PIC#64 : Straight, looking forward
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION #33
PIC#65 : Straight, looking reverse
PIC#66 : Straight, looking forward

beru · Oct 3, 2005

Ok i need a little help on that one.

George V Paris : Limit of the track is define by wall and invisible wall. It's considere as a rally track, only 2 car during a race, no tire wear possible and no pits. Corner no.9 is the only place on that track where you can ride 4 wheels on the side walk behind the rumble stripe (wall should be the limit there).

My question is : There is alot of invisible wall on that track, some of them are way befor barriere, some are between barriere. Do i need to take note of all those, even if they are really far from the good line ??? And as we know when there is a touch with a invisble wall there is a lost of speed, so easy to see the mistake.

VV · Oct 3, 2005

I'll work on the Part 10 during this week.

Arwin · Oct 5, 2005

The amount of work needed here is greatly impacted by our discussion in the other thread:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1926686#post1926686

If you use the rule I propose, or one like it, for all tracks (one wheel has to connect to the yellow or white lines that mark the track), then you only need to make an inventory of invisible walls that you can still touch under these circumstances (though you have to take into account you could be racing the Jay Leno Tank Car ... so you may still need to identify most of them

).

beru · Oct 13, 2005

Hey Guy's

I can't keep on the work i was doing, my PS2 just died. I just clean it up a few days ago then it was working realy well, and yesterday i open it and nothing, not able to read the game.

So sorry about that but i will wait for PS3 to came out befor putting some money on that.

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eggmann · Oct 13, 2005

Sorry to hear that beru. I have an old PS2 that only reads discs if you flip it uspide-down. You try that?

beru · Oct 17, 2005

Thanks for that tricks, i will try it, i try a few different things, but nothing for the moment.

I'll try some stuff tonight.

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