All systems which operate under large amounts of heat creak after they have been switched off, its normal and not a malfunction... its the internal temperature balancing out with the external temperature the same way cars tick and creak after you switch the engine off.
Your mates have the 40GB PS3 which uses the new cooler running cell which may make it creak less or may be noticeable.... either that or they live in a boiling house!
You have to be like right next to it in to hear it creak BTW... its not like some major noise!
I know things expand when they heat and contract when they cool. I know some devices creak when they get turned on or off because of it, but my PS3 (60GB UK) doesn't do it, and because I have better things to do I dont sit with my ear next to it to hear it creak.
If its so easy to fix the RROD why isnt everyone doing it... Plus those who have done it apparently say its only a temp fix which may only work for a week at most before it messes up again. If the clamp holding the 360's heatsink can come undone why can't the PS3's...
1) not everyone is doing because they dont know how or are worried they will make it worse (most of my friends dont know jack about opening a PC, nevermind a 360)!
2) I have done it on several consoles, some work and stay working for months, even years. Others die again in a week or less! Just depends how bad the initial damage is.
3) I never said they come undone! What I was saying is that the stupid (cheap & nasty) 'X' clamp design flexes the board and when the console heats up the BGA joints at the edge of the board soften (from the heat) and break loose because of the flexing, then that causes the RRoD! The PS3 heatsink is not clamped down like the 360 one (shown below) so thats not an issue! If MS has not been so cheap and just used screws the RRoD would not be such an issue! Its a VERY WELL known fact in the modding community!
The PS3's heatsink is massive, the heat flows around inside the machine gradually dissipating and it will drop in temperature, not all of the heat off the chip is expelled out the back in one go! It would burn people and probably melt the casing..
The heat thats generated from my Northbridge chip in my PC makes the Zalman heatsink too hot to touch.. why isn't the air coming out the back of my PC just as hot?
Yes, but heat has to be expelled somewhere doesn't it? So better heatsink means the heatsink will get hotter (to dissipate the heat) and a good fan means air will be flowing over the heatsink while its (the heatsink) very hot and coming out the back.
If the air from the back of 360 is warmer and the chips produce the same heat then that means the cooling in the PS3 is crap because the heat is staying inside the machine instead of being expelled out the back! We all know that cooling in the PS3 is generally not an issue so therefore if the heat coming out the back is less than the 360 and the cooling is better than the 360 it means the CELL produces less heat!
Common sense!
You keep talking about the 360! This is not the 360! The PS3 has cables going through totally different areas so comparing it to why a 360 doesn't have melting issues is illrelevant.
No, its no irellevant! You said heat will melt something or cause something to warp! Hence why you think Folding@Home is a bad idea! If nothing like that happens to the 360 (even when the DVD drive and the wires for the DVD drive are millimeters from the GPU heatsink) then its not gonna happen in the PS3! Hell the wires in the 360 are barely even warm after a long testing session to make sure all is ok after fixing one!
So your arguments holds no water (again).
It could just be the lasers, I never said that it outright wasnt!.. its a possibility..
Some peoples systems here don't boot up at all and some don't accept the disks.
I was ALWAYS talking about the original posters problems...did you not realise that I quoted him in my 1st post in this thread and said it was the laser then.
It would be stupid to assume ALL failures were due to 1 part!
Most of the 360's faults are with the RRoD, but they're not all to do with that Some of the drives fail, some of the lasers fail, some of the power supplies fail, etc, etc!
Before you moan at me talking about the 360 again, im using it as an
EXAMPLE!
Ive never really had a problem of them not having a part for my car.. but if your saying it happens then it happens! Sony's parts are no where near the variety of parts that a car has...
Just cos they have less variation doesn't mean they can't go out of stock! So once again, your wrong!
Post me an official link or someone officially from Sony saying that it was always their intention from the very start to have it backwards compatible... some guy on some 360 thread is not a source.
"
A programmer at Sony's UK division has revealed that the compatability will be accomplished through software rather than hardware, immediately causing speculation that we may see a limited library available, as was the case on the Xbox 360."
I know you gonna say "yea, but he's in the UK Sony, dept so I was right, blah, blah, blah...."
BUT if you look at the date it was written on April 25th 2006! So it was not an "
AFTERTHOUGHT" like you said!
Link
here and another link from April 24th 2006
here.
So it was in no way, shape or form an "afterthought" and was planned all along!
Backward compatibility was planned to be hardware based from the start I dont understand where you are getting this from! Using the EE-GS was always the intention and doing it via software was a cost cutting afterthought... Look what was written in 2007...
You are so wrong on this is unbelievable!... So Sony make something thats better and takes longer to manufacture BY ACCIDENT to meet demand instead of doing something which you say was planned from day one which costs less to do, takes less time and is less complicated meaning that they could have shipped more
You are so stupid its unbelievable!
Did I say by accident...NO, I didn't!! The
PROTOTYPES used the EE/GS but the final version was INTENDED to run on emulation (look at my links above taken from
APRIL 2006).
They didn't want to (due to cost) put the EE/GS in the PS3, but due to lack of time they were FORCED to, not an accident! They basically put prototypes into production! Everything else was as they wanted it to be, but the emulation was not ready. They just had to! Otherwise the Wii (which launced at the same time in the US and JPN) would have stolen all the PS3's thunder!
They also wanted a worldwide launch! But due to a lack of blue laser diodes they pushed the EU release to March 2007!
So your statement of "the EU was always gonna have emulation, but the rest of the world was not" is wrong! How was the EU gonna have emulation and everywhere else wasn't if it was orginally meant to be a world wide launch?
Do you think that 4 months is REALLY enough time to redesign a whole system and put it into production?! Of course its not! But thats all they had between the US/JPN launch and the EU launch!
That alone implies the PS3 that used emulation was about 90 - 95% complete when the US & JPN versions launched!
I was just going by what Nitro F1 had said, I too was unaware this happened until I read it here... It makes sense as all PS3's are made in China and now even the Cell is outsource there...
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technol...tation_3_disaster_sony_to_outsource_cell.html
Where in that link does it say anything about the
LASER?? It says about the CELL (which is common knowledge) but says nothing about the laser!
If you didn't even know that the PS3 BC was changed to emulation halfway through the roll out solely as a measure to cut costs then I doubt you know as much about the system as you say you do...
Your the worst type of person...there are 4 types as follows
1) Folk that dont have a clue and admit it
2) Folk that know a bit, and admit when they are wrong or dont know
3) Folk that
THINK they know it all when they are 100% wrong (you)
4) Folk that know what their on about and can find proof to back up their claims (me)!
).
