Question about gt academy and real race drivers.

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First of all let me say I am new to the forum and I am happy that I have found a place where I can share and look at other peoples results in GT5.

I just turned 18 and got my driving license 6 months ago. I also bought the G27 steering wheel. I have been playing GT5 for only a year with a DS3 and around 2 weeks with the G27. Between the age of 11-13 I did professional MSA kart racing (MSA = motor sport association in the UK) for 2 seasons. My family isn't too wealthy and we found that 1. it was too expensive for me to continue (+ we had no idea how to set up the engine) and 2 we found that the people that won the races were the rich as they had huge discounts on parts in the kart track store + people working in the store + workshops did their engines for them. I just wanted to say that although I did kart racing for 2 years I didn't have any major results apart from winning 1 race in the wet. I was really young and no one told me what a good racing line is so I was terrible in the dry yet my "racing line" worked perfectly well in the wet.

I am a student and therefore have around 20-30 hours spare time each week which I want to spend practicing on my G27.

I know what a good racing line is but the problem I am having is finding the correct braking points which is my first question.

How do the people who get into gt academy manage to set such good lap times on tracks they've never been on without knowing the correct braking points? Is it something that comes with experience?

Secondly, how do the real racing drivers stay so consistent during the long races? I know I'm just starting but I find myself doing a few mistakes on every single lap.

Finally, is it possible for anyone to become a racing driver through GT Academy with a lot of practice and hard work or will some people just never make it ?

I know the competition is tough but I am ready to put in the hours and hard work just to get into GT Academy finals. I could care less if I was the first one to get eliminated but im sure reaching the GT Academy finals would mean a lot to anyone who plays GT5.
 
Welcome to GTPlanet! 1st off I would suggest driving tracks with the racing line ON until you get comfortable with the track. Braking points very from car to car so it all depends on, again, your comfort level. Getting to know your tracks and cars are the key to going fast. The only way to learn both of these things is PRACTICE!

As for your GT Academy question, yes it is possible to go all the way and become a professional race car driver from it.

The reason race car drivers are able to put down consistant laps for long races is because they know their cars and what speeds they need to be at for each turn, and they also know the track like the back of their hands. Before races, drivers study each track with a fine tooth comb and find the best line through a corner and keep trying to perfect it just to get that extra tenth of a seconds shaved off of their time. Hope this has helped and welcome to :gtpflag:
 
In GT Academy 2010, I wasn't able to get into the UK leaderboards (top 250) on my own natural talent. Then I bought this book, & after reading & putting into practice the things I learned, I managed to finish 58th. It's always possible to improve, but how much depends on a numbers of things, including some unknown factors imo.

Check out these GT Academy tutorial videos as well, they'd be a great help.


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Between the age of 11-13 I did professional MSA kart racing (MSA = motor sport association in the UK) for 2 seasons.
You may not be eligible, depending on the level you competed at:
GT Academy conditions
1.2.To enter this Competition, Entrants must:
(a)be 18 or over;
(b)hold a valid passport and be capable of obtaining the appropriate visa to enter the country hosting the Race Camp (as applicable to the entrant).
(c)have a PlayStation®Network account (a "PSN Account") registered in the same country as the entrant’s current country of permanent residency, and that country must be listed in Rule 1.1 above;
(d)hold a fully unrestricted (not provisional) valid driving licence issued by the relevant national driving licensing authority (for example the DVLA in the UK), with the appropriate category of vehicle (car) clearly indicated;
(e)have not been convicted of any criminal offences;
(f)be in good general health in accordance with Motor Sports Association (“MSA”) medical requirements (details can be found at http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/Comp_Licence_Notes.pdf);
(g)not have an existing competition driving contract with any motor sports team, body, agent or management company that conflicts with his/her ability to accept the Prize;
(h)not previously held a National A or superior MSA license or equivalent in another FIA recognised ASN (Recognised Motorsport Body);
(i)not have competed in any form of 4 wheeled motorsport at a national championship level more than two full seasons (the promoter reserves the right judge what classes as National level motorsport) ; or
(j)not have competed at the Race Camp Stage (or equivalent or similar stages) in any previous GT Academy competition.
 
I know what a good racing line is but the problem I am having is finding the correct braking points which is my first question.

How do the people who get into gt academy manage to set such good lap times on tracks they've never been on without knowing the correct braking points? Is it something that comes with experience?

Learning a new track is one part knowledge of the layout, one part knowledge of your car, and one part live experimentation. I start out conservative, and push a little deeper every time I find that I had more space left. By doing it incrementally, I keep it so that if I push a hair too deep, I can still keep the car on the track, I'll just lose time (though staying on the track is more of an issue in live driving where you have to worry about damage to the car). Pay as much attention as you can to the feedback the car is giving you, that will help you figure out when you still have more grip to exploit.

Secondly, how do the real racing drivers stay so consistent during the long races? I know I'm just starting but I find myself doing a few mistakes on every single lap.

Part of it is innate talent. Their precision and consistency is one of the things that sets them apart and makes them good enough to compete at the highest level of the sport. I think conditioning is important, too. You'll make more mistakes when you get tired.
 
Thank you all for the advice. Much appreciated.

To Famine:

"not previously held a National A or superior MSA license or equivalent in another FIA recognised ASN (Recognised Motorsport Body);
(i)not have competed in any form of 4 wheeled motorsport at a national championship level more than two full seasons (the promoter reserves the right judge what classes as National level motorsport)"

1. I had a national B licence
2. I didn't compete 2 full seasons and according to what is written above it says for OVER 2 full seasons.
 
Hence "may". What you did may not qualify as a "national level" competition either...

There's a discretionary aspect to it that you should keep in mind. It might be worth talking to your regional Sony offices to clarify.

And, of course, that was from the 2012 rules. There may be an alteration for the 2013 rules (expect them late next month).
 
I'm far away from even qualifying for some sort of gt academy finals. If I ever feel like I have a slight chance to make it I will then go on to find out if I am eligible.
 
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And, of course, that was from the 2012 rules. There may be an alteration for the 2013 rules (expect them late next month).

Sweeeeeeetttttttt!!!!!
 
I wouldn't give out insider information - it's a fantastic way to stop getting it.
 
OP, if you are struggling with braking points, look for reference points and progressively build on it. Most are similar, also taking into account speed and type of car. It gets easier to adapt especially in a driving game like GT5 where track conditions in dry are fixed.

About staying consistent, you have to understand where you are making up or losing time. Also knowing at what points you are braking and accelerating out at corners, if you keep things similar, you are likely to be more consistent.

Finally look at where Jann is now, he wouldn't have made it if he never put the effort in so don't give up so early.

I wouldn't give out insider information - it's a fantastic way to stop getting it.
I thought that would be the case. Will keep a look out for it. I wonder if they will wait for GT6 release and have GT Academy challenge on there. They got so many drivers now so I wonder if they will go back a bit and just do one driver for Europe again? I guess it is just wait and see, not long to go.
 
I played a few seasonal event time trials and all of them require comfort type tires. How on earth do people manage to get such good lap times when whenever I try to accelerate out of a corner the car starts losing traction ?
 
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