question, Can you drift with a DS2 controller?

[j8mie]

It's easier to do this, and easier to do that... etc... etc...

This is the wrong approach... You should never start with what is easier... You should always start with the more complex, and the rest will fall into place... As most all AWD drifters will tell you, it is much harder to go to RWD from AWD...

Also, your idea kind of contradicts itself, because you seem to have chosen one of the more difficult AWD's in GT4, to drift...

That’s an interesting point. However I do feel your point about not starting with something easy is a little odd to say the least. Bear with me whilst I try to explain.

I think the problem that most new drifters have is that they spend hours trying to drift a FR 2WD car and only end up spinning off the track and slamming into walls. Doing this for a few hours can get rather tiresome, especially if you don't feel like you are making any progress. I'm not saying that people believe they'll be able to drift within an hour, but people do need to see some improvement to be able to justify the time it will take them to learn how to drift properly, and so they don’t end up getting bored and giving up.

So my point about starting with something easier does make sense. If someone finds, a 4WD car easier to drift and get some results with, then great. I started out trying to use a FR 2WD car to drift, and I spent countless hours spinning off and slamming into walls. I then switched to a 4WD Evo and made some decent progress. I’m not saying for a second that I’d mastered the car, but I was able to start a drift, catch and control it. I wasn’t getting massive angles, but it was a start. Since then I have moved back to FR 2WD cars like Mazda RX-8s and Nissan 300zx. I found that I have made a fair amount of progress and I have been able to start drifting these cars.

I believe without the knowledge that I’d gained from drifting a 4WD car, I would probably have given up and left GT4 on the shelf.

 

[Delphic Reason]

That’s an interesting point. However I do feel your point about not starting with something easy is a little odd to say the least. Bear with me whilst I try to explain.

I think the problem that most new drifters have is that they spend hours trying to drift a FR 2WD car and only end up spinning off the track and slamming into walls. Doing this for a few hours can get rather tiresome, especially if you don't feel like you are making any progress. I'm not saying that people believe they'll be able to drift within an hour, but people do need to see some improvement to be able to justify the time it will take them to learn how to drift properly, and so they don’t end up getting bored and giving up.

So my point about starting with something easier does make sense. If someone finds, a 4WD car easier to drift and get some results with, then great. I started out trying to use a FR 2WD car to drift, and I spent countless hours spinning off and slamming into walls. I then switched to a 4WD Evo and made some decent progress. I’m not saying for a second that I’d mastered the car, but I was able to start a drift, catch and control it. I wasn’t getting massive angles, but it was a start. Since then I have moved back to FR 2WD cars like Mazda RX-8s and Nissan 300zx. I found that I have made a fair amount of progress and I have been able to start drifting these cars.

I believe without the knowledge that I’d gained from drifting a 4WD car, I would probably have given up and left GT4 on the shelf.

We could argue back and forth all day... It still remains that every pro drifter, most all GT drifters, and any racing coach, will tell you to start with RWD cars, to get an understanding of the basis of racing/drifting... The fact that you started with AWD, because you couldn't be bothered learning the more traditional way, just isn't relavent... Believe it or not, you had to do quite a bit of "unlearning" to get back into RWD's, wheras if you started with RWD's you would have a more solid base to learn from... Ultimately, I believe starting the wrong way around, as you have, hinders your progress in the long run... However, if you are now able to drift both AWD's and RWD's (by drifting, I mean "Controlled") Then more power to ya... I just don't think it's a good idea to tell others that is the ideal method of getting into drifting...

Don't take the easy route... Drifting is not easy... There are no shortcuts... If you want to do something easy, go play NFSU, or Enthusia...