Question concerning clutches

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I was taught from driving school to use the clutch frequently and that, contrary to popular belief, it doesn't get damaged by use. However, many times people have told me that was wrong, that it gets damaged the more you use it and should be used minimally. Which stands true?

This also concerns me from a practical standpoint as I drive an old Corolla with a very touchy clutch that needs to be pressed till the very end to smoothly change the gears.
 
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Sounds like you need to adjust the clutch back some so it engages later.
 
Well a friction clutch wears when it slips, and it slips when you change gear, so in theory the clutch plates will wear out faster the more you change gear.

Also the idea of the gearbox is to keep the engine in an appropriate rev band, by not doing that I would think you are not getting the best from the car in any other department (such as economy or performance).

... unless of course you are on about matching the revs during gear changes and shifting without using the clutch.... in which case, I wouldn't unless you are really good at it.
 
Clutch wear occurs whenever the clutch plate (transmission) slips relative to the flywheel (engine) when the engine is spinning faster than the transmission and the clutch is the connection between. When the clutch pedal isn't fully out there is this slippage, typically when starting from a dead stop. The material on the face of the clutch is similar to brake pad material and wears out over time. Quick starts with a lot of slip before you let the clutch pedal out fully cause the most wear. You can sometimes smell this as a burning or fishy odor.
The Internet is full of good information about this.

Sounds like your clutch is not working properly. Worn clutches disengage *higher* up the travel. Low or contaminated fluid or air in the system *lower* the disengagement point.
 
No matter how you drive, the clutch is always going to wear. Even so, as long as you drive normally and don't purposely abuse it too much, it should last a very long time.
 
Yeah like these guys say don't worry about it. The clutch is a consumable just like tires, brake pads and windshield wipers. You use those just as much or more as the clutch and you're not about to stop using them either. With proper use a clutch will last several years before you have to worry about it.

If your clutch isn't engaging where you think it should try bleeding the lines. Often when you're low on fluid you can get tiny air bubbles in there which might make the pedal feel mushy or soft and have more travel.
 
First off, the old clutch issue: If you're having trouble changing gears unless the pedal is pressed all the way to the floor, the diaphragm spring which is what actually disengages the clutch is probably old and weak. As springs do, the diaphragm will eventually wear out over a very long time(stock clutches usually last over 100k miles). If the clutch happens to have been used lightly, its possible the diaphragm will actually wear out before the clutch disc. You might want to consider getting the clutch system checked because it's not a sure thing, but it is likely.

As for wear, what wears a clutch out is when it drags against the flywheel. When the pedal is to the floor and the clutch is disengaged, there is no wear because it isn't touching anything. When your foot is off the pedal and the clutch is fully engaged there is no wear because it is locked onto the flywheel. But in between, as you're pulling away from a stop and slipping the clutch, there is wear because of the friction between the clutch and flywheel. If you rev to high rpm while you're slipping the clutch, the friction is very high and will cause the clutch to wear out much sooner than expected.

I've seen clutches wear out from people revving too high while pulling away. Most people rev anywhere from 1000 to 2000 rpm, maybe even 3000, and the clutches will take that abuse for quite a while. But if you're slipping it at high rpm it will wear out quickly.

Also, slipping it exceptionally frequently can cause premature wear. For example, you're stuck in a traffic jam that is too slow to leave in gear, but never quite stops either so you've constantly stopping and going, slipping the clutch each time to get going again. I've been in this situation in other cars. It results in a high wear, and you can even smell the clutch burning hot.

Good clutches, like factory stock parts or high-end aftermarket pieces, can take the abuse from a reasonable driver for quite a long time, so much so that I wouldn't worry about its longevity. But unreasonable abuse, like revving very high while slipping or slipping it repeatedly will shorten its life considerably.

Here's a good way to check if your clutch disc is still strong. If you want to check for clutch slip, you need to do so in high gears because the clutch is more likely to slip in those gears. Start with your highest gear, 5th or 6th, and floor the throttle. If it slips at all, this will make it slip. Then you can go to the next highest gear and see if it slips. It's unlikely it will slip in 3rd or below unless it's in critical shape.

The reason it slips in higher gears is because the weight of the car is more difficult to move in those gears due to the numerically lower gear ratios. The force the clutch has to hold goes up drastically in higher gears, and is positively tremendous in 6th gear. In first gear the force is must hold is realistically still very large, but nothing compared to 6th gear. Anyway, obviously if the clutch ever slips even a tiny bit then it needs replaced.
 
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