Question For experienced drifters

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ok well i have changed from xbox to ps3 a few weeks back, use to drift non stop on forza, i have to say that GT5 handed completely different, to a point where i cant enjoy it. the problem i am having is the cars i am using are snapping back when i transition and counter almost like the front wheels are gripping and pulling me off.

so my questions is, is it the set up on the car?, is it me trying to drift like im on forza? or is there a setting that i have turned on or off that needs to be changed? (forza had a setting that had to be turned off), at the moment i have everything turned off apart from abs which is set to 1.

thank you in advance.


P.s maybe there are a few people on ps3 that help new people learn to drift?, its not like i cant drift, just few things dont feel right.
 
It's more the fact that forza is arcade, GT5 is realism.

Practice and more practice is all it takes, work on setups afterwards.

Although... If it's snapping back too much then you may have too much front camber, or your initial torque setting (LSD) may be too low for the weight of the car. It could also be your toe/springs but if you don't know much about tuning then I'm guessing you've left most of it stock?

Also, make sure to use CH/CM tires as anything higher will also cause problems with too much grip messing up your drift like that.
 
K1ngKlicK
It's more the fact that forza is arcade, GT5 is realism.
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True

K1ngKlicK
Practice and more practice is all it takes, work on setups afterwards.
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True, but dont start drifting a totally untuned car.

K1ngKlicK
Although... If it's snapping back too much then you may have too much front camber, or your initial torque setting (LSD) may be too low for the weight of the car.
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Fail: none of my cars has a diff setup other then 5 60 60. This is the lowest it can get, so your point is kinda... weird, besides the fact that there are only 2 or 3 viable LSD setups on a drift car...

K1ngKlicK
It could also be your toe/springs but if you don't know much about tuning then I'm guessing you've left most of it stock?
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Not viable question tbh hun xD

K1ngKlicK
Also, make sure to use CH/CM tires as anything higher will also cause problems with too much grip messing up your drift like that.
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Very True.

My view on things:
1: look what car tuning lists are on this forum, i suggest the TTCH S13 one. 2:get the corresponding RWD car,
3: Slap CH's on them
4: Lock the diff ( 5 60 60, or 60 60 60), (high to low, starting with initial torque).
,and
5: Have fun.
 
Gonales
Fail: none of my cars has a diff setup other then 5 60 60. This is the lowest it can get, so your point is kinda... weird, besides the fact that there are only 2 or 3 viable LSD setups on a drift car...
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My point is valid Dom, 60 60 60 would be better for learners than 5 60 60 especially if they feel it's too loose like he does. Your diff setup is all down to personal preference and how you want the car to feel though :)

Gonales
Not viable question tbh hun xD
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I was asking if he had left it mostly stock, because he might of tried to tune it, but he got something drastically wrong causing his car to be unstable!

Trying to show me up Dom, I never!.... :sly:
 
thanks for the replies guys, i guess for it learning how to drift again from forza and stop trying to drift like i did on forza.

i have tryed to tweak the car a bit then set all back to sock and doing the same thing :-(, just got so anoyed at it that sold it lol now have to get more credits to get a new car lol.

but again thank you for the input i will surely go a look around the forums see if i can get ideas/tips off other topics. and hopefully fall into a drifting crowd and look at what there doing etc.
 
I'll send you a car with a setup that I think would be good for beginners, if you want to send me a friend request!
 
I had this same problem when i switched from forza to gt5, it just took me alot of practice and pacience to get it right, now im drifting aswell as i was on forza.
 
I just got a ps3 as well
been a forza drifter for a few years now and i can tell you this:
in forza there is almost no need to be linear with the throttle when changing direction
or when trying to end a drift, stepping off is almost all you need to do.

in gt its much more crucial to let off the throttle easily and have smooth steering - this takes practice, also to change direction quickly and efficiently you need to use the brakes
no need to be brutal, a simple snap at the brake should do.

also try to use handbrake for corner entry at first until you get the hang of the car.

good luck!
 
Is this guy a wheel? First question that should be asked really. And considering the LSD's: 5 60 60, 60 60 60 or gtfo. Simple as that.
 
Lol, I have some different LSD's sometimes. But I'll keep that secret xD.

A common LSD is 5 60 60 and 60 60 60 indeed.

But you could always change it if it doesn't feel well. if you descrease the last one, you'll get more wheelspin, increasing the first one helps the car go faster through the gear ( shortly said ).

Everything depends on suspension as well, so only a LSD isn't enough to drift more advanced without any suspension set up.
 
K1ngKlicK
Take some Melatonin, love. :sly:
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Hmm, you do know that, what you said could be taken offensively? :s But nevermind, you wouldn't dare insulting me like that :p

Duman079
Lol, I have some different LSD's sometimes. But I'll keep that secret xD.

A common LSD is 5 60 60 and 60 60 60 indeed.

But you could always change it if it doesn't feel well. if you descrease the last one, you'll get more wheelspin, increasing the first one helps the car go faster through the gear ( shortly said ).

Everything depends on suspension as well, so only a LSD isn't enough to drift more advanced without any suspension set up.
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Basic welded diffs irl, whats starters use are 5 60 60 or 60 60 60. The people that spend a lot of money on customisable diffs will probably not waste their time on this thread.
In my opinion, learn with a basic diff, and if you are perfect with that, you could go tweaking. Don't get into a Ferrari if you not yet know how to drive... First basics :)
 
K1ngKlicK
Also, make sure to use CH/CM tires as anything higher will also cause problems with too much grip messing up your drift like that.
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Disagree entirely. The hardest compound I use is CM on lower horsepower cars like R31 Skylines and such. I use CS on cars like my Camaro or Viper because it maximizes the cars ability to maintain speed and angle, with no snap-backs.
 
Benmastaw00t
Disagree entirely. The hardest compound I use is CM on lower horsepower cars like R31 Skylines and such. I use CS on cars like my Camaro or Viper because it maximizes the cars ability to maintain speed and angle, with no snap-backs.
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Someones new to the drift forum...

K1ngKlicK
It's more the fact that forza is arcade, GT5 is realism.
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This is about the only other part in this thread Id probably disagree with. The 10 60 60 diff would probably be your best starting point as well as CH, but I wouldnt class Forza as an arcade. Need for speed is arcade, Forza is not. It may not be as accurate of a simulation as GT5, but at least they have a proper tyre model and car model. Id still class it as a simulation, although not a very high end one, but one none-the-less.

Anyway, as said, CH, 10,60,60 on your LSD, and that should get you used the physics of GT5, once you begin to get the hang of it, then start tweaking suspension and what not. Oh, and if I may make a suggestion, start off with a S13, lightweight stage 3 and LSD. That would probably be best (IMO) to start you off.
 
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CH are the only tyres use around here. If you dont use CH, you cant get into most of our rooms, enter the comps, join a team. CM may be the most realistic and be the most alike the real life drift tyre, but we use CH so we have control over lobbies so we know everyone is on the "universal" tyre. And what dont I know about drifting then? Go on, enlighten me.

P.S, I tend not to drift to prove a point, a) because in this case it'd be unfair as you have more speed, and b) because there is nothing really to prove. The drift forum has stuck by CH for a long long time so its become the most favoured tyre. Got a problem? Have fun convincing the entire Drift forum they know nothing about drifting. Go on, I dare you.
 
nismo34
ch are the only tyres use around here. If you dont use ch, you cant get into most of our rooms, enter the comps, join a team. Cm may be the most realistic and be the most alike the real life drift tyre, but we use ch so we have control over lobbies so we know everyone is on the "universal" tyre. And what dont i know about drifting then? Go on, enlighten me.

P.s, i tend not to drift to prove a point, a) because in this case it'd be unfair as you have more speed, and b) because there is nothing really to prove. The drift forum has stuck by ch for a long long time so its become the most favoured tyre. Got a problem? Have fun convincing the entire drift forum they know nothing about drifting. Go on, i dare you.
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+1.
 
lebes14
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To the OP, I spent sometime drifting on forza, the physics are most certainly different, I could barely hold a steady drift on FM3 even at tsukuba! So yea, you just need to readjust yourself to the new physics. It shouldn't take more then a day or two if you're a controller guy, if you're in a wheel, can't help you there. I'm still learning to wheel drift myself, it's a painfully slow process.

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Nismo34
CH are the only tyres use around here. If you dont use CH, you cant get into most of our rooms, enter the comps, join a team. CM may be the most realistic and be the most alike the real life drift tyre, but we use CH so we have control over lobbies so we know everyone is on the "universal" tyre. And what dont I know about drifting then? Go on, enlighten me.

P.S, I tend not to drift to prove a point, a) because in this case it'd be unfair as you have more speed, and b) because there is nothing really to prove. The drift forum has stuck by CH for a long long time so its become the most favoured tyre. Got a problem? Have fun convincing the entire Drift forum they know nothing about drifting. Go on, I dare you.
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To the OP i find that when i am ''snapping back'' it is because of a few reasons a) I am not putting on enough power so the weight has shifted to the front tires gaining grip and throwing me into a wall while still counter steering. b) i am in to low of a gear 3rd instead of 4th for example. Meaning i am using up all of the power and bouncing off of the limiter. There is not enough power to keep the drift going causing a snap back c) I have not returned the wheel (or stick) to center fast enough on exit. Meaning i was still counter steering when the front tires gained grip causing snap back.

Edit: I forgot to mention that i used to play fm3 a lot on the pad for a while Then when gt5 came out i bought it and it was a slap in the face for sure. The two games are nothing alike when it comes to handling so you are going to have to relearn a lot of things. Don't give up it takes a lot of work and practice learning how to drift in a new game.
 
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Nismo34
CH are the only tyres use around here. If you dont use CH, you cant get into most of our rooms, enter the comps, join a team. CM may be the most realistic and be the most alike the real life drift tyre, but we use CH so we have control over lobbies so we know everyone is on the "universal" tyre. And what dont I know about drifting then? Go on, enlighten me.

P.S, I tend not to drift to prove a point, a) because in this case it'd be unfair as you have more speed, and b) because there is nothing really to prove. The drift forum has stuck by CH for a long long time so its become the most favoured tyre. Got a problem? Have fun convincing the entire Drift forum they know nothing about drifting. Go on, I dare you.
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>Using CH to control drifters
So it's tough s**t for those who drift better using CS/CM tires? Yeah, that's about as fair as Obamacare.

Also, I asked you to enlighten me, don't throw the question back. Tu Quoque.
 
Benmastaw00t
>Using CH to control drifters
So it's tough s**t for those who drift better using CS/CM tires? Yeah, that's about as fair as Obamacare.

Also, I asked you to enlighten me, don't throw the question back. Tu Quoque.
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Yes, it is tough 🤬, get over it. I dunno, by the looks of it there isnt much point in enlightening you, your head seems too big already by the look of it, have you tried telling the entire drift forum they know nothing about drifting yet?
 
What car are you using that you are getting snap back? That only happens with very few cars. Example the speed 12 with mixed tires will do that. Check my drift garage man and choose anything. Drift around in a few different cars and see if it still happens. Just don't choose anything that list switch tires like the speed 12, or Buick special.
 
CJDA9
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To the OP i find that when i am ''snapping back'' it is because of a few reasons a) I am not putting on enough power so the weight has shifted to the front tires gaining grip and throwing me into a wall while still counter steering. b) i am in to low of a gear 3rd instead of 4th for example. Meaning i am using up all of the power and bouncing off of the limiter. There is not enough power to keep the drift going causing a snap back c) I have not returned the wheel (or stick) to center fast enough on exit. Meaning i was still counter steering when the front tires gained grip causing snap back.
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If you're bouncing the limiter and can't switch gears, I'd suggest pumping the throttle instead of bouncing off the limiter.
 
Nismo34
Yes, it is tough 🤬, get over it. I dunno, by the looks of it there isnt much point in enlightening you, your head seems too big already by the look of it, have you tried telling the entire drift forum they know nothing about drifting yet?
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Yes, yes I believe he has :lol:
 
Stavingo
If you're bouncing the limiter and can't switch gears, I'd suggest pumping the throttle instead of bouncing off the limiter.
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Thank you i didn't know how to explain it properly but you got it. I do that a lot still definitely something that needs to be worked on for sure. I was just trying to help out i know that these situations are what gets me into a snap back on the wheel, and i am sure it is the very same on a ds3.
 
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Nismo34
Someones new to the drift forum...

This is about the only other part in this thread Id probably disagree with. The 10 60 60 diff would probably be your best starting point as well as CH, but I wouldnt class Forza as an arcade. Need for speed is arcade, Forza is not. It may not be as accurate of a simulation as GT5, but at least they have a proper tyre model and car model. Id still class it as a simulation, although not a very high end one, but one none-the-less.

Anyway, as said, CH, 10,60,60 on your LSD, and that should get you used the physics of GT5, once you begin to get the hang of it, then start tweaking suspension and what not. Oh, and if I may make a suggestion, start off with a S13, lightweight stage 3 and LSD. That would probably be best (IMO) to start you off.
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Forza
is more arcade than race driver grid lmao
 

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