Question for wheel users

[SuperFatty3]

What kind of surface is needed for the force feedback wheels like the DFGT or the G27? Is any simple flat surface ok for the wheel, and just the floor for the pedals?

 

[mattythedog]

Any flat surface with an edge to clamp onto is fine, I used a table before I go my wheel stand, and it worked fine.

 

[jarrod56]

I use grip stuff.

 

[jgancherjr]

I put two sided Velcro on the front of the wheel and a piece on my wood desk to hold the front down, then of course you have the clamps to hold the back down.. Or vice versa however you look at your wheel .. Also I put Velcro on the bottom of my pedals, I used just the "pin" side of the Velcro facing down and this really helped it stay in one place on the carpet! Hope this helps!

 

[lldantell]

What kind of surface is needed for the force feedback wheels like the DFGT or the G27? Is any simple flat surface ok for the wheel, and just the floor for the pedals?

A desk is good if the edge is wide enough to clamp

 

[Hirokisoki]

@ SuperFatty3

Do you have and live with a gf that does yoga? just steal her mat and set it down on the floor where you would place your pedals put pedals on mat and presto, instant grip well

It works well for the chair as well

 

[SuperFatty3]

As thanks to all your very helpful answers, I'll ask another question! Do they require an electric outlet? Sorry y'all I just can't find anything online about these wheels.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

As thanks to all your very helpful answers, I'll ask another question! Do they require an electric outlet? Sorry y'all I just can't find anything online about these wheels.

1 for power with the DFGT. Not sure about the other wheels.

 

[SuperFatty3]

1 for power with the DFGT. Not sure about the other wheels.

Alright, thanks. If I decide to get a wheel that'll probably be the one.

 

[Johnnypenso]

DFGT is an excellent choice. It has some advantages, like tuning on the fly, that other wheels don't have. You will benefit from modifying the resistance of the brake and throttle to give you a little more feel for things. As they come they are a little too light for my taste.

 

[SuperFatty3]

DFGT is an excellent choice.

There isn't a huge difference in quality between it and the G27 though is there? That's my new main concern, along with whether or not the force feedback is easily broken.

 

[jgancherjr]

There isn't a huge difference in quality between it and the G27 though is there? That's my new main concern, along with whether or not the force feedback is easily broken.

The G27 is all around nicer to use consider you the the clutch and the "H" pattern shift but mine only lasted me a few months.. I bought the DFGT over a year ago an have honestly beat the living hell out of it racing in X1 tournaments.. It still works as good as the day I bought it! Only thing I did to it was buy the paddle upgrades form: granturgismo.com

 

[Hirokisoki]

@ jgancherjr

What did you do to your G27 shifter to have it break so quickly? I'm using a G25 that is a year old in my possession but previous owner had bought it back in 2008. It is still working great.

@ SuperFatty3
would you consider one of these?
http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_u...d=105&osCsid=d494b4c4bb0229b0521a2e1541e04bab

I have one of these as well because i was playing Forza 4 and GT5 with it but both my consoles broke so i have it packed away until i replace my consoles.I'm currently playing my PC sims. I prefer using my G25 because of the leather wrap wheel but the CSR is a good wheel.

 

[jgancherjr]

@ jgancherjr

What did you do to your G27 shifter to have it break so quickly? I'm using a G25 that is a year old in my possession but previous owner had bought it back in 2008. It is still working great.

The force feedback motor went out, the shifter remained okay, I was just stressing that the clutch and shifter were my favorite qualities of the G27.

 

[Bluntified]

The force feedback motor went out, the shifter remained okay, I was just stressing that the clutch and shifter were my favorite qualities of the G27.

I've had my G27 for almost 3 years and never had a problem with it. You either got a lemon or bought it used. I use the clutch/shifter all the time and abuse the wheel, I learned to drift with it. If anyone who drifts can tell you, the earlier stages of learning, abuses your wheel.

 

[Johnnypenso]

There isn't a huge difference in quality between it and the G27 though is there? That's my new main concern, along with whether or not the force feedback is easily broken.

Never used the G27 so I can't directly compare, but I know others have. I'm sure the DFGT doesn't have to same feel to it as the G27 quality wise, but it does have it's advantages and it works really well, and it's cheap! I've used mine quite a bit since the game came out but I've avoided driving the X1 for the most part other than the special events and the TT. It's as good as the day I bought it right now.

 

[jgancherjr]

I've had my G27 for almost 3 years and never had a problem with it. You either got a lemon or bought it used. I use the clutch/shifter all the time and abuse the wheel, I learned to drift with it. If anyone who drifts can tell you, the earlier stages of learning, abuses your wheel.

It was dealer refurbished with a 90 day warranty.. It lasted about 2 weeks or so pass that warranty

 

[SuperFatty3]

It's as good as the day I bought it right now.

What kind of force comes from the feedback? Is it really enough to have to "fight" with it?

 

[J0SH1]

I just use a desk to clamp it on to. So pretty much a flat surface that's not to thick that the clamps won't fit on.

 

[Rogzero]

My DFGT kicks the **** out of me regularly [before I got used to racing a car with a wheel ] and that was only set to 5 [maximum is 10]. Power steering can be turned on for ease of use as well.

Only things i dislike about the DFGT are lack of Clutch, H-Shifter and the ability to switch to right hand drive [for Japanese/UK Spec cars]. But I'm not willing to double the price for those, very happy with purchase. :]

 

[pilmat]

I've had a DFP and now on a G27, the FFB is quite good but not realistic. It kicks at you in places a real car doesn't. I turn it down to 3 (out of 10) so that it easier to be smooth with, as it takes the funky kicks to a minimum for my liking.

The Fanatec line has an on-board FFB adjustment, independent of the game's settings. I think this can then be used to fine tune the differences between the FFB subtleties (understeer and oversteer) while reducing the nasty kicks. My friend has a CSR-E that is in shipping, so I can give it a try soon

 

[Johnnypenso]

I've had a DFP and now on a G27, the FFB is quite good but not realistic. It kicks at you in places a real car doesn't. I turn it down to 3 (out of 10) so that it easier to be smooth with, as it takes the funky kicks to a minimum for my liking.

The Fanatec line has an on-board FFB adjustment, independent of the game's settings. I think this can then be used to fine tune the differences between the FFB subtleties (understeer and oversteer) while reducing the nasty kicks. My friend has a CSR-E that is in shipping, so I can give it a try soon

The DFGT has on board, on the fly adjustments to brake balance, ABS/ASM/SRF on/off, and torque split in 4wd's, and I can tell you from experience, having those adjustments available helped me win endurance race series. Being able to adjust the brake balance to help with tire wear and the torque split to help get the power down as the tires wore was invaluable. For that benefit alone the DFGT is worth the price of admission and it's the one thing that stops me from even considering looking at other wheels.

 

[pilmat]

The DFGT has on board, on the fly adjustments to brake balance, ABS/ASM/SRF on/off, and torque split in 4wd's, and I can tell you from experience, having those adjustments available helped me win endurance race series. Being able to adjust the brake balance to help with tire wear and the torque split to help get the power down as the tires wore was invaluable. For that benefit alone the DFGT is worth the price of admission and it's the one thing that stops me from even considering looking at other wheels.

Fully programmable on the G27 and Fanatec's too I agree that it is a great feature!

 

[F1]

If you are wanting to make sure that it is good quality and that it won't break easily then I would recommend the Thrustmaster T500 RS. Admittedly it may be too expensive for you and if you want the shifter it's another 120 quid. It has a 'feel' about it. I don't know what it is but it just feels better than my mates DFGT. Anyway good luck with your decision!

 

[Mightypickle]

Got my dfgt used, never looked back to the ds3 or the hks controller. Depends on what settings you use. I turned ffb all the way up and set on simulation so I can feel when the tires start to lose grip. The default settings were too weak. It seemed counterintuitive, but those settings made it much easier to drive for me.

 

[DrivingForce]

I just clamp my DFGT to a £10 fold up table, it works perfectly fine for racing. But if you want to do drifting it slides around a bit.

 

[SuperFatty3]

I just clamp my DFGT to a £10 fold up table

How wide do the clamps open?

 

[Hirokisoki]

How wide do the clamps open?

About 1.5 inches

 

[SS Chuck]

I bought a small side table ($40) from Pier 1 to use. It has a thick top for clamping, and heavy metal legs. It doesn't move even under the most vigorous driving. If you are going to be sitting any distance away from the screen get a USB extender.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

How wide do the clamps open?

Seriously just hop on over to Youtube and check it out. Many, many videos of people using it!