Qutting the game for at least a week.

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Just finished one of the two worst races in my short GT online career, after a bumpfest i got demoted from my usual Sr B to C, then this happens again:



I wish i saved the previous race as it was twice as bad. In this one I actually couldnt take it any longer and decided to drop the game for a while.
If the game pisses me off more than it gives me satisfaction I am going to give myself a break. Perhaps for longer if the update doesn't address some of the ridiculous SR deductions.
I know there will be people telling me to "spend more time on qualifying for better positions", "grind your sr" or "let them drive like maniacs and just wait it out". However if you only do 2-3 of those races a day and 80% of your experiences is negative you can easily see how some people want full ghost mode, or get fed up with playing online at all.
 
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I love this race, the first lap especially is completely mayhem and if you can see a way past and pull away its worth going for it, otherwise I find its better to hold back and stay out of trouble. I can guarantee there will be plenty of other opportunities in later laps to pass these drivers, as most of them can't even manage the 1st corner safely.

Unless you can get into the top 5 or 6 from qualifying, you are as well staying in the back, that way you only need to worry whats in front, for the most part.

The SR system is what it is, its not always fair, but I think its better than it was at launch. Its not likely to change drastically and its unlikely every race will miraculously be a 'carry on old sport' sort of race

So you have 3 options

1. Not playing.
2. Think sod it, and join in the mayhem regardless.
or
3. Learn some race tactics and laugh at the buffoons in the crash fest while you move up the field.

Go out for a walk then come back and work on option 3, its a whole game unto itself :)
 
BSDShoes
Wow I'm in SR S and almost nobody drives like that, watching most of the field cut corners and smack each other repeatedly was an eyesore.

Just so you know, you should use the proximity radar since you didn't know there was a car to your right at one point.
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I know, 90% of the time I do, its just I was testing the new car for this race and had a hard time handling the Ferrari and forgot to switch from tcs back to radar.
 
I know in the last few days I felt the same experience, or a lot of lower rated driver got upgraded so higher ranking or something is not working at all in the rating system of PD.
A lot of ppl are over ranked and free to destroy third party races. If PD doesn't figure out this and fix, I think that a lot of ppl will stop playing the daily and FIA races and move to private server
 
I just posted this in the GD topic but i think it apply's to this thread as well.

On concern of contemplating quitting, you know... racing is hard. Turning a fast lap is hard, turning them consistent is even harder. Turning fast laps consistent while battling other drivers without making contact and crash is insanely hard. Even the very best cant always do it, in game and in real life. It takes allot of practice and experience to really get to grips with it and even then you will make mistakes or see races ruined by mistakes of others. But to me that challenge is also the beauty of it, knowing there is always room for improvement. Always looking to gain that little bit of extra time on track, or looking back at replays thinking hmm i could have left more room there or i could have been a little more agressive here. And then, when it all falls in place and youre having a couple of great races with some intense but clean battles, it is one of the best satisfaction there is. When you swap positions multiple times in a 10 lap battle it is the best feeling no matter who ends up infront. Thats why i love it and i would neverquit racing. But i cant decide for u ofcourse.
 
quikk
However if you only do 2-3 of those races a day...
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I might do 2-3 races in a particularly active week and have been at SR S since probably race 8 (only have 21 races total).
So yeah-
quikk
"spend more time on qualifying for better positions"
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That's part of it. You sound like you don't want to put the effort in but you want to get matched with people who do. Yeah others in your video are making kind of a mess but you aren't exactly inspiring confidence yourself. Nobody in that pack looked like they really knew what they were doing. I don't think anyone is trying to cause wrecks and spin out but that's how a lack of skill manifests itself in a game like this. You can't think of it like a traditional multiplayer game where, if someone sucks, they just get curb stomped by other players. In a racing sim, you are basically combining the elements of co-op and pvp at the same time. Yeah, you're trying to beat the other guys but you have to do it without directly preventing them from achieving their goal.

quikk
"grind your sr"
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It's hardly what I would call a grind as it can be done very quickly. But as I said, I don't think SR is your problem- it's the crowd of ruffians you hang out with. :lol:

Rather than taking a break, why not just practice with one car from Gr.3 or Gr. 4 then wait for a Sport event at a track you are confidently familiar with? Qualify better and race clean. Everyone had to deal with these kinds of drivers in the beginning but if you keep telling yourself there's nothing you can do about it, you're always going to get matched with other people who feel the same.
 
Regardless of mistakes or fault, it's too bad something meant to be fun has turned you to bitterness.
Learning takes a while, and experience is a hard teacher.

When you come back:
1. stay away from races shorter than 25 minutes... sprints are crash fests.
2. don't quit, because, typically half the field does, and, even if you start 15th and finish the race last you are almost guaranteed placing 7 spots higher than your start due to all the other quitters. This will boost your DR and SR by default.
3. remember, it's just a game, and... as frustrating as it can be, even bad experience is indeed experience nonetheless.
 
quikk
then this happens again
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Wow, you were a massive crash waiting to happen from turn three onwards.

You didn't account for understeer going into turn four so hot, clipping the Porsche and sending him off the track. Then you closed down the kerb on the outside so he couldn't rejoin without braking to avoid you again. Then you cut the corner at turn eight and hit the very same Porsche again - no wonder he hit the Beetle right after that - before trying to turn into the hairpin with a Mercedes clearly alongside you. The fact you were sideways out of the corner is clearly also your fault, with the throttle pinned flat well before you were straightened up (and the TCS going haywire), and the Mercedes you'd just forced onto an inside line on corner entry had nowhere else to go but into your door.

That's some shocking driving.
quikk
Perhaps for longer if the update doesn't address some of the ridiculous SR deductions.
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You deserved each of your SR penalties. I'm amazed you didn't get one for turn four as well.
 
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You cut the corner causing a 2 car crash then turned in on somebody. If anything, you might not have been penalised enough.
 
Famine
Wow, you were a massive crash waiting to happen from turn three onwards.

You didn't account for understeer going into turn four so hot, clipping the Porsche and sending him off the track. Then you closed down the kerb on the outside so he couldn't rejoin without braking to avoid you again. Then you cut the corner at turn eight and hit the very same Porsche again - no wonder he hit the Beetle right after that - before trying to turn into the hairpin with a Mercedes clearly alongside you. The fact you were sideways out of the corner is clearly also your fault, with the throttle pinned flat well before you were straightened up (and the TCS going haywire), and the Mercedes you'd just forced onto an inside line on corner entry had nowhere else to go but into your door.

That's some shocking driving.

You deserved each of your SR penalties. I'm amazed you didn't get one for turn four as well.
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Impressed you could evaluate that as well as you did. The driving in that clip is an utter mess and par for the course at Interlagos from what I’ve seen. The track is too difficult to manage for the vast majority of drivers that have little to no experience on it.
 
I just want to know what "Qutting"is? :D...

More seriously, if it's causing you that much aggro, whether your fault or theirs, why not take a break and do something else whether it's another game, or another activity like scapes or Liveries.
 
quikk
Just finished one of the two worst races in my short GT online career, after a bumpfest i got demoted from my usual Sr B to C, then this happens again:



I wish i saved the previous race as it was twice as bad. In this one I actually couldnt take it any longer and decided to drop the game for a while.
If the game pisses me off more than it gives me satisfaction I am going to give myself a break. Perhaps for longer if the update doesn't address some of the ridiculous SR deductions.
I know there will be people telling me to "spend more time on qualifying for better positions", "grind your sr" or "let them drive like maniacs and just wait it out". However if you only do 2-3 of those races a day and 80% of your experiences is negative you can easily see how some people want full ghost mode, or get fed up with playing online at all.
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Being so aggressive when there are 6 cars around you so closely is bound to end in tears. You need to be patient and create space.
I’m not surprised you’re stuck in B/C SR!
 
I wonder why you didn't let of the throttle as soon as you got oversteer. You kept pushing and then you were hit.

I had the same happening to me in that corner (my first FIA race at interlagos). It happened to me once, never again. Never trust the TCS to save you from all oversteering situations, especially in a race like that, where there's a crash in every corner.
 
Famine
Wow, you were a massive crash waiting to happen from turn three onwards.

You didn't account for understeer going into turn four so hot, clipping the Porsche and sending him off the track. Then you closed down the kerb on the outside so he couldn't rejoin without braking to avoid you again. Then you cut the corner at turn eight and hit the very same Porsche again - no wonder he hit the Beetle right after that - before trying to turn into the hairpin with a Mercedes clearly alongside you. The fact you were sideways out of the corner is clearly also your fault, with the throttle pinned flat well before you were straightened up (and the TCS going haywire), and the Mercedes you'd just forced onto an inside line on corner entry had nowhere else to go but into your door.

That's some shocking driving.

You deserved each of your SR penalties. I'm amazed you didn't get one for turn four as well.
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Thanks for pointing out my mistakes, I never said I was a pro, its my second week playing the game so I am not the experienced driver, however I did win couple of races in my division, and 8 out 10 races in Sr B were positive. Of course I could have done some things differently, leave more room there, slow down or take corners differently, however ramming other people is never my intention. Using a controller also does not make it easier to control the car where everyone just wants to overtake you no matter what. In fact, last night I came home really late and decided to give it another go, after couple of drinks I didnt have high hopes qualified second. The guy in pole has disconnected from the game and I ended up winning the race with over 5 seconds advantage on the same track. I do tend to make more mistakes during the crash fest however, which is probably due to the lack of concentration.


Shottah072
On concern of contemplating quitting, you know... racing is hard. Turning a fast lap is hard, turning them consistent is even harder. Turning fast laps consistent while battling other drivers without making contact and crash is insanely hard. Even the very best cant always do it, in game and in real life. It takes allot of practice and experience to really get to grips with it and even then you will make mistakes or see races ruined by mistakes of others. But to me that challenge is also the beauty of it, knowing there is always room for improvement. Always looking to gain that little bit of extra time on track, or looking back at replays thinking hmm i could have left more room there or i could have been a little more agressive here. And then, when it all falls in place and youre having a couple of great races with some intense but clean battles, it is one of the best satisfaction there is. When you swap positions multiple times in a 10 lap battle it is the best feeling no matter who ends up infront. Thats why i love it and i would neverquit racing. But i cant decide for u ofcourse.
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I understand what you are saying, the self improvement part is really rewarding, however the reason I play online games is mostly for entertainment and sense of rivalry hence the frustrations. I do often look at the race replays, especially in close situation what could I have differently. Swearing at other drivers when racing could be justified when you fight at top speed while fighting for a position but when you look at the replays after the race you could actually see your own mistakes, I get that.

Heres my another try from today:



Again, a huge crash at the start of the race, despite having an okay starting position. This time no hard feelings. My mistakes or not I still think that taking some time off and come back after the update is released can be good. For me and for everybody else like someone else mentioned :p Hope everyone has nice Christmas!
 
quikk
I understand what you are saying, the self improvement part is really rewarding, however the reason I play online games is mostly for entertainment and sense of rivalry hence the frustrations. I do often look at the race replays, especially in close situation what could I have differently. Swearing at other drivers when racing could be justified when you fight at top speed while fighting for a position but when you look at the replays after the race you could actually see your own mistakes, I get that.
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Yeah thats good that your going trough that proces of trying to improve. But what i also meant but maybe forgot to elaborate in the first part about racing being hard, is that it is hard for almost everyone else as well. What i mean is that a huge deal in having good races is having good competition. When you are not at that level yet (wich i get is hard to achieve, especially on DS4) that you can drive fast, consistent and clean and the competitors you are getting matched with arent either it just becomes very unlikely to have good races. This is the biggest issue i think when i watch your races. Now only way around this is to have better races so you will get paired with better competitors. Hmm so the problem is also the solution, then how do we fix this ?

Maybe instead of stopping all together you should just stop doing Sport races for now and pick a car a track you like and go do timetrial. Practice that same car and track every day and focus only on going faster and staying on track. Ill guarantee that if you keep doing it daily you will keep seeing improvements in time and consistency. Also try to get rid of that racing line once you know your way around the track, with it turned on you are not really racing the track you are just following a line and most of the time it isnt even the fastest line. Once you really get the hang of the car/track combo and your speed and consistency improved a good amount from where you started and your confident you can run a good amount of laps with no or only minor mistakes then wait for it to apear in Sport mode and try again. Against the same level competitors your new found speed should get you higher up the field, this should already help. But your consistency should have improved compared to theirs as well. So if you can just stay out of trouble and rather wait for them to make a mistake then actively attack you should be able to get some good results boosting your DR and SR and allowing for better competitors in the future who you can actually race.

Try it, if it turns out to work for you keep doing it on a track to track basis and the racing should improve.

Whatever you decide to do... Hope you have a nice christmas as well.
 
Famine
Wow, you were a massive crash waiting to happen from turn three onwards.

You didn't account for understeer going into turn four so hot, clipping the Porsche and sending him off the track. Then you closed down the kerb on the outside so he couldn't rejoin without braking to avoid you again. Then you cut the corner at turn eight and hit the very same Porsche again - no wonder he hit the Beetle right after that - before trying to turn into the hairpin with a Mercedes clearly alongside you. The fact you were sideways out of the corner is clearly also your fault, with the throttle pinned flat well before you were straightened up (and the TCS going haywire), and the Mercedes you'd just forced onto an inside line on corner entry had nowhere else to go but into your door.

That's some shocking driving.

You deserved each of your SR penalties. I'm amazed you didn't get one for turn four as well.
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Looking at it - I agree Famine! I have only played myself for a few weeks after three years with GT6. I have been racing real life as well as many others here and it feels quite disturbing how many times a day you get bumped off the road for no reason! Even 3 days ago - I was going side by side with one of the racers at the Village racetrack as I had a better last corner exit and would have won... Then I saw him make a sudden move towards my car and I decided to stay on "course" (not moving my car against his move) just grabbing my steering-wheel harder. He hit me with his move but bounced off himself and I got to the finish line before him......... - then they gave me 10 seconds PENALTY? As a suggestion if somebody agree - to increase the percentage on CLEAN RACE to may be 250% to encourage the "worse" drivers to race with a common understanding of race-rule and if not..face it and get back to the school-bench. Anybody?
 
quikk
I never said I was a pro
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We're pretty much all armchair racers so I wouldn't worry about it.

People need to remember that best intentions don't usually apply to mid-lower ranked races. It's often survival of the fittest.

I thought I'd seen it all in GT6's quick matches but the daily races are a whole new level of nuttiness.
 
Please take some time off. If the first vid isn't TOO telling about your racing skills, the second one SCREAMS bad driver. You leave no room for others and expect not to be rammed off the track. Turn 1 you absolutely messed it up and turn 3 again no room for the car on your left.
 

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