Race Car Drift Projects - Settings and techniques

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ViXeN
Is that a Race Car? brnout???
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Yep, it is/was racing in the Aussie V8 Supercars series. I'll have a go with it, see it I can make it slide. From what I remember of that car in GT3, it was understeering and low on grip compared to other race cars.. so this might be a good drifter with some tweaking :dopey:

I'll also check out the Impreza JGTC300 car. It drifts nicely with mixed tires (N2/N1) but we all know that's "wrong" ;) It seems like you have the same tuning philosophy as me when it comes to making cars oversteer, gonna have a try with some of your projects!
 
Ah OK cool, so I get it in the Auzzie car lots then?

I'll check it out tonight maybe and add it to the list of to do's...

Post the settings up here when you have them and we'll compare notes. ;)
 
Well, here's what I did to it so far (set up using DF wheel):

Spring rate: 12/6
Height: 85/95
Bound: 8/2
Rebound: 9/4
Camber: 3.5/0
Toe: 0/-1
Stabilizer: 3/1

Downforce: 38/32
LSD: 15/50/10
Ballast: 200/+50
Gears: Auto 10
Brakes: 3/12

Key techniques: Brake drift, feint, power over, lift off. They all work beautifully with this car, but a slight feint/brake drift combo will get you angular in no time ;)

This is a very rough setup, but it's eager to go sideways and not too unstable either due to the downforce. The key here is the ballast, as you've probably seen.. it really makes the car a lot more willing to feint/liftoff/brake drift, but it also makes it want to grip if you don't balance the throttle good. I haven't messed too much with details in the damper/lsd department so there's absolutely room for improvement, but I wouldn't set LSD decel any higher than 11-12.. This car needs all the help it can get to make initiating easier, and with decel on 10, the brake department seems to work perfectly.

This car will initiate easy, and you can get pretty high angles without losing control using the brake. I'd recommend using manual for this car, as it behaves very differently in different gears (combination high HP/rear ballast?). Shifting gears mid drift can quickly result in excess wheelspin and loss of momentum. Upshifting 3rd to 4th will more than likely cause the rear to grip unless you absoutely floor it.

Gonna go tune the sube now :dopey:
 
CUSCO/ADVAN Impreza JGTC

Same settings as the Ford above, but 100kg ballast, gears auto 11 and rear toe -3.

This thing will drift forever, though it will not lift-off or power over. I'll try more ballast for easier lift-off, and I'd probably add another 50 or so HP to keep spinning more easily. As it is, it's sort of a fun full throttle type car, and it's great for hairpins and "race drift".
 
I have some settings for the Nissan Falken GT-R Race Car ('04)

They aren't perfect settings, and it is still [now semi] hard to drift, but it can.

EDIT: Spent some more time with it, updated settings and how to drift

Upgrades:
Turbo Stage 4
N1 Tires all around

Settings:
Spring Rate: F-16 R-9
Ride Height: F-55 R-80
Bound: F-10 R-4
Rebound: F-10 R-4
Camber: F-3.5 R-1
Toe: F-0 R-0
Stabilizers: F-7 R-6

Trans: Auto Setting 4

Brakes: F-10 R-15

Downforce: F-23 R-32

AIDS OFF!!!

Its still tough to drift, but now that i have changed some settings you can go longer (i drifted around the first long sweeper on El Capitan). Its kinda a combination of Let-off, brake, and feinting...Let off while feinting, some corners may require braking to get the angle. Hit the gas and hold it, if you let off the drift will be lost. Steer hard in the direction the corner is going (like grip racing) it should keep its angle, if you get too much angle, just let off the steering. The snap isnt too bad, but there can be some when linking corners.
The more corners you link, the more you can throw its weight and drift longer, but watch out as you might throw it too much (not easy to do though lol).

Those are the second session settings, and all that changed really is using a turbo 4 and n1s instead of turbo 3 and n2s. I tried other suspension and tranny combinations, but this seems to be the best of the half hour i tested

Here are some pics (you can also see 3 of these in my DPC Week 24 entry)


 
Delphic Reason
Nahh... That's the slow way...

The Deutsche Touring Car Championship in the European Events section is far more lucretive... Just get an Audi or Opel touring car, mod it up, enter the championship in B-spec... Set it to 4 and overtake (triangle button), then set it to 3 times speed... It takes about ten minutes to do the whole series... When you're done, you have over 900k to play with...





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OH! beats the heck out of my way. 👍 👍 boy i've wasted a lot of time. :indiff:
 
Very cool thread, ive been trying my hand at the jgtc cars for a while now.

One that I found kicks major bootie are the Opel race cars, like the astra and calibra. alot easier to kick sideways than you think. Also the falken r34 is a bit difficult, but i need to work on lsd. Lately my obsession has been drifting the heavy euros like the audi s4 and mercedes mclaren. anyway folks , keep up the good work.
 
tedaconda, you cant adjust the lsd on the falken skyline, neither the vcd. Thats what makes it very hard to tune for drifting (i think the vcd [if adjustable] would be default at around 40\60, thats what it feels like)
 
Well, here's what I did to it so far (set up using DF wheel):

Spring rate: 12/6
Height: 85/95
Bound: 8/2
Rebound: 9/4
Camber: 3.5/0
Toe: 0/-1
Stabilizer: 3/1

Downforce: 38/32
LSD: 15/50/10
Ballast: 200/+50
Gears: Auto 10
Brakes: 3/12

Key techniques: Brake drift, feint, power over, lift off. They all work beautifully with this car, but a slight feint/brake drift combo will get you angular in no time
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Are the settings for the XR8 or not?
 
The '93 Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI is a fantastic AWD DTM drift car... I have been messing around with it for the past few hours, and I'm lovin' it...




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The Falcon is growing on me and it's definitely my favorite right now :dopey:

I gotta start messing around with AWD too... I never really tried it yet, but there are a lot of cool AWD cars to drift... and I like the look of AWD drifting, being an old rally sim guy and all.

Anyone got a link to a crash course (no pun) in awd drifting? :dunce: Just a quick list of yesses and pitfalls to speed my learning up ;)
 
Thanks for the settings Ske, I'll add them to page 1 later and you'll receive full credit, as will you CoolGeeks!!! Good job on getting that humk of 4WD to slide!!!

Ske, do you notice that the XR8 seems to have a power problem in 3rd? It has 608kw, but seems like it has limited torque??? I noticed it, but then again, I had just drifted my RX7 Race Car... lol

Delphic Reason, Care to share your settings with us???
 
Yes, it all depends on how you set up the gears. Set at 11-12, 3rd gear is my sort of 'controllable workhorse' gear, in 2nd the wheels will spin like crazy at more than 25% throttle (resulting in almost stalling but a lot of tire smoke :sly:, and in 4th gear it's hard not to grip.. This is the car that made me go manual!

The overall balance, willingness and sheer lunacy of this car is incredible though. I have taken this car to 90 degrees and beyond, and not once ended up facing backwards. Also, IMO this car can drift forever in 3rd.. and I mean forever, like linking turn 1 through to the back straight at Apricot without manji. This is the first car I've taken turns 5+6 in one go with :dopey:

I'm not sure about tire choice though.. it has more than enough power so I keep using N2s for control.. it's hilarious with N1s though, you can brake drift (4 wheel slide obviously) turn 1+2 at apricot at almost 90 degrees lol....
 
Ske, have you got some pics of the XR8 drifting? I need 3 or 4 good ones to post up on page 1... ;)

CoolGeekz, It would seem that the VCD settings are almost 50/50 hehehe... The front wheels grip at the first sign of throttle... lol...

tedaconda, I almost bought them both to drift, but I decided to move through all the JGTC cars first...
 
CoolGeekz
I have some settings for the Nissan Falken GT-R Race Car ('04)

They aren't perfect settings, and it is still [now semi] hard to drift, but it can.

EDIT: Spent some more time with it, updated settings and how to drift

Upgrades:
Turbo Stage 4
N1 Tires all around

Settings:
Spring Rate: F-16 R-9
Ride Height: F-55 R-80
Bound: F-10 R-4
Rebound: F-10 R-4
Camber: F-3.5 R-1
Toe: F-0 R-0
Stabilizers: F-7 R-6

Trans: Auto Setting 4

Brakes: F-10 R-15

Downforce: F-23 R-32

AIDS OFF!!!
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Man you have done a good job with these settings. I had a little play around with the down force and found that it was easier to get sideways with the front on max, I think it was about 38.
BTW here are some pics of it I thought I would post.

 
ViXeN
Ske, have you got some pics of the XR8 drifting? I need 3 or 4 good ones to post up on page 1... ;)
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Check this week's DPC :sly:
 
Ske
The Falcon is growing on me and it's definitely my favorite right now :dopey:

I gotta start messing around with AWD too... I never really tried it yet, but there are a lot of cool AWD cars to drift... and I like the look of AWD drifting, being an old rally sim guy and all.

Anyone got a link to a crash course (no pun) in awd drifting? :dunce: Just a quick list of yesses and pitfalls to speed my learning up ;)
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definately try awd...i started with an awd car and thats all i drift now. since this is the race car drift thread i thought id try the escudo. wow, insanely easy to get sideways and its like a smoke machine also. im not sure if i wanna post settings due to the time it took, that and im about 75% done with it, still have to tweak a few things. chances are, if anyone is interested, i'll post the settings anyways.

btw, pics of the escudo are entered in this weeks DPC.
 
venomGT4
definately try awd...i started with an awd car and thats all i drift now.
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I've tried some AWDs. I used to do some sliding with mixed tires and VCD at 10, trying the best I could to make them drift like FRs... but I really want to get into that 4-wheel drift, zero counter thing.

I thought I'd start with some really understeery permanent AWD cars like stock Imprezas (with a power boost though), but so far no good :crazy:. Balancing these cars at an angle is a whole different ballgame... I'm trying to find a good way to keep the angle up while I pump the gas to even it out, but it's jerky and unpredictable at best. I also seem to have a hard time keeping up the forward momentum while drifting too.... for now ;)

Cars like the FTO and Impreza touring cars, falken GTR and the ZZII are definitely cars I'd like to get comfortable with.. especially now that I got a capture card :dopey:
 
Ske, my Falken Skyline VCD's non adjustable, and its about 50/50. So if you want a car to see what its like to drift permanent AWD, try that....
 
LOL!.. Hope you didn't hurt yourself.. ;)

You didn't break the wheel, did you? That's way more important than your health!.. hahhaha :lol:
 
brnout89
ok i know this thread is dead but i was wondering if any one had settings for the toyota gt-one
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Um, in the DPC i have seen nos2 (i think) drifting a toyota gt-one, so you could pm him and see if he will give them to you.
 

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