Race or Rice? The Quiz...

[87chevy]

Gran Turismorator
You scored -19%
You are a respectable tuner. You probably subscribe to one or more tuner magazines and know, quite a bit about your car and/or racing in general. Either that or you play a ****load of GT3. At any rate, you recognize the difference between a wastegate and a blow-off valve. In time, and with practice, you may attain "Racer X" status since it is supposed that you are relatively new to tuning and still have much to learn. Keep, working, and thank the maker that you're not a ricer.

whew, thank god i'm not a ricer. I don't know much about import tuning, and really had to think on the order of the turbo setup. I don't like how in one question the only cars you could choose between were hondas so i chose the caprice

[QUOTED=sage]Hrm, 2nd question disqualifies me right off the bat (truck!). Oh well.
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well, I didn't own any of the cars on there, but chose sportier compact for my Celica. But i'm really a truck man.

 

[xcsti]

I've heard about this. For some reason unknown to me, the downpipe can cause boost spikes upwards of 17 PSI (stock peak boost is 14.5). However, my Vishnu TBE hasn't cause me any problems.

This is way way off topic just to warn everyone. When you put a new down pipe in you basically see good gains in the effectivness of the turbo as the lower resistance allowes it to spool quicker. You won't gain any real power unless you replace the bov because the stock bov will prevent you from going higher maximum boost level. What happens with overboost (can't remember the real term for it maybe I'll look it up before I finish this thread, uhh it's called boost creep). Basically I'll summ it up and give you a good link explaining it better. Boost creep occurs when resistance is taken off of the exhaust system allowing the turbo to spool up to extremely high levels. The stock wastegate is not designed for these levels and cannot keep up. The boost basically increases exponentially as the wastegate become less and less efficient until the engine managment shuts the whole thing down.

http://www.wrxlinks.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2555

I really think it's pretty cool that they recognize GT in that poll survey thingy. Kind of shows a little of the impact GT has had.

 

[///M-Spec]

Cute little quiz. (-28%) But slightly biased toward turbocharged import makes. I didn't get a single suspension tech question or brake tech question... they were all engine/power related. At least there was a couple of driving questions.


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[Cosmic]

You scored -5%
WTF?

 

[skip0110]

The up pipe is between the turbo and exhaust manifold, I believe. There are WRX guys who get performance up pipes to get rid of a pre-catalytic converter and unlock some ponies, get rid of a lot of turbo lag, and kill penguins.

The downpipe is at the exhaust end of the turbo, that actually goes out the exhaust. I know that for a fact because I replaced mine.

Thanks for clearing that up 👍 The boost creep explanation was very lucid as well, thanks xcsti.

 

[Pupik]

Not bad for someone who works in an automotive industry, reads car mags for the past 20 years, and his only regularly scheduled programming involves auto racing:




The Non-Racer *

You scored -5%
One of two things happened if you received this rating. Either you know absolutely nothing about tuner culture and chose "no idea" often. In this case, i guess i could say congratulations, but really you wasted your time taking this test...actually this test is a waste of time for everyone. The second option is a little rarer. You must be someone that knows a lot about either mechanics or racing, but jack about the other subject....or you're just guessing. Either way, congratulations....you're mediocre...but still not a ricer, for which you should be thankful







* Thank you for playing The Internet by your own rules, have a nice day.

 

[-Fred-]

Gran Turismorator
You scored -17%

PunkRock: The stroke order was right, but they didn't have it as a single sequence. I was expecting Intake, Compression, Power, Exhaust, but there was Power, Exhaust, Intake, Compression.

Indeed. I was going for the full sequence, starting with the intake stroke, I didn't even think of it like that.

Question #20 was quite funny, too, with the turbo order. Not only does the turbo appear twice in 3 of the choices, but I dare you to find an up pipe on something else than a WRX (or any Subaru using the EJ20/25). Aside a 911 Turbo, of course.

 

[Famine]

Fun time!

Deliberately answering in the most dense manner, I got a score of +24% and:


24% Uncle Ben
Depending on how you look at it, you either did awesome, or your worst fears are realized....you are, in fact, a ricer. Your vehicle world consists of large exhaust, large wheels, larger wings, and small engines. Every penny you earn goes into making your stock compact the gnarliest looking creation on god's green earth. The author of the test is of the opinion that you should probably be shot...but what does he know, his spoiler isn't even a foot tall. Congrats you ****ing ricer.

Answering every question sensibly, I got a score of -27% and:

-27% Racer X
Congratulations. You are the real thing. Chances are you could tear down your engine and put it back together in a weekend. You know a decent amount about racing dynamics. The "FATHF" culture has been a bane to your existence since you've been in the game for years before that horrid movie was released. Auto-x, drag racing, track time, you know enough to not sound like an ass while talking about it, and you can probably hold your own on the track too. Race on, good citizen, for you are a true Racer.


So, because I know that a 250hp S2000 with suspension tweaks is better fundamentally than a 140hp Civic with bucket seats and a 1kW stereo, and the correct sequence of events for engine cycling, I'm apparently capable of rebuilding an engine. You, sir, are a halfwit.

 

[Small_Fryz]

, im still proud of my result, Granturismoator, i think thats quite correct, racer x is however taking it a bit too far. Uncle Ben

 

[wana b drifter]

You're racing solo II auto-x in your eclipse RS. You're turning in ****ty times because you are continually sliding to the outside of the corner, ruining your line. What strategy should you adopt to turn in better times?

none of the choices are right for driving that type of car. you just brake earlier and gradually accelerate through the turn. your sliding to outside because your braking too late.

 

[Small_Fryz]

or because your applying to much power, Eclipses are Front wheel drive therefor he is proably understeering under power.

 

[wana b drifter]

Indeed. I was going for the full sequence, starting with the intake stroke, I didn't even think of it like that.

Question #20 was quite funny, too, with the turbo order. Not only does the turbo appear twice in 3 of the choices, but I dare you to find an up pipe on something else than a WRX (or any Subaru using the EJ20/25). Aside a 911 Turbo, of course.

look at a turbo 2.5 ltr probe gt, or mx-6 LS. its not factory but they have up pipes 👍

 

[wana b drifter]

or because your applying to much power, Eclipses are Front wheel drive therefor he is proably understeering under power.

i know there front wheel drive. thats why you brake early and accel through, to make the front wheels pull you though the turn. besides fwd car's under steer under braking not power.

 

[Famine]

none of the choices are right for driving that type of car. you just brake earlier and gradually accelerate through the turn. your sliding to outside because your braking too late.

i know there front wheel drive. thats why you brake early and accel through, to make the front wheels pull you though the turn. besides fwd car's under steer under braking not power.

No.

FWD cars understeer due to too much speed/too early throttle application. To eliminate understeer you brake and turn late. In the example given, the car is sliding to the outside because too much power is applied too soon.

 

[wana b drifter]

No.

FWD cars understeer due to too much speed/too early throttle application. To eliminate understeer you brake and turn late. In the example given, the car is sliding to the outside because too much power is applied too soon.

Nope, fwd car understeer due to late braking. you still power to the front wheels maybe it got to much but you still the power to pull you thruogh the corner. And if you brake brake too late and coast though the corner it will push to the outside. So in that case you would brake earlier and gradually accel thruogh the corner. All the question said was the pushed to outside exiting the corner. besides if it was because too much power too soon it would have to be a lot power like almost flooring it. not just alittle too much power.

 

[Famine]

No it won't. Cars only understeer if they're going into a corner too fast or, in the case of FWDs, power is applied too early.

Adding power to the front wheels doesn't pull you anywhere. It pushes you against the direction of turning. Remember the force/grip graph?

Please bear in mind that I drive an FWD sports car every day.

 

[wana b drifter]

i drive a fwd sports car too. Yes you want the front tires to pull you through the corner. without power behind the front tires they will just silde to the outside.

 

[Famine]

What ARE you talking about? "Without power behind the front tyres they will just slide to the outside"? Have you gone insane?

As you apply power to ANY wheel on a car, the wheel's natural tendency is to want to go forwards, right? As you apply a turning force - let's say to the left - the natural tendency is to want to turn left. Okay?

Now, say you do those two things at the same time - power and turning left. The wheel will want to go forwards and to the left. If you apply MORE turning force than power, the wheel will want to turn more. If you apply MORE power than turning force the wheel it will want to carry on going forwards - or push to the outside of the turn. So, if you apply too much power to a front wheel driven car, the front wheels will want to keep going forwards rather than turning - understeer - and if you apply too much power to a rear wheel driven car, the rear wheels will want to carry on going forwards (while the front wheels turn the corner merrily) - oversteer.

There is no situation I can think of, other than locking up, where braking or not applying power in a front wheel drive car will cause understeer. Not applying power WILL NOT make the car "slide to the outside". EVER.

 

[Giancarlo]

A lot of those questions are stupid. There is nothing wrong with dressing up your car, and this test seems to be against it.

 

[wana b drifter]

Not applyingpower will cause the front end to slide. thats one of the down falls to having a front wheel drive car. when you push it to its limit it will under steer very badly unless you accellerate to make the front tires pull you around the corner try and look it up somewhere. for real.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Gran Turismorator. Meh.

 

[Famine]

Not applying will cause the front end to slide.

No, it won't.

Look, let's go to basics here.

You're driving along in an FWD car at 4mph. Turn the wheel sharply to the left. What happens? You turn to the left.

You're driving along in an FWD car at 170mph. Turn the wheel sharply to the left. What happens? The nose dives, but the car keeps going in a straight line until the halfshafts snap. You crash and die.

Applying too much power caused understeer. Applying none did not.

Try the same experiment with a RWD car. At 4mph the same thing happens. At 170mph, the back end overtakes the front end and the car spins around merrily until it comes to rest. In a tree.


I can't believe you drive an MX-6 and don't get this. FWD + Power = Understeer. FWD + No power = No Understeer. How much understeer do you think a stationary FWD has?

What's the correct way of curing understeer mid-corner? Why yes, it's backing off the power gently so that the accelerative forces do not overwhelm the tyre's mechanical grip level. The front end comes back into line and you can reapply the power gently.

thats one of the down falls to having a front wheel drive car. when you push it to its limit it will under steer very badly unless you accellerate to make the front tires pull you around the corner try and look it up somewhere. for real.

No! The problem with FWD is that it understeers when you apply TOO MUCH POWER. For crying out loud man! Do you know any physics at all? Do you spend all day polishing your car rather than driving it?

Draw a BIG circle. That circle represents the level of mechanical grip available to your tyre - it's a front tyre on an FWD car. Draw axes through it - up is "Acceleration", down is "Braking", left is "Left", right is "Right". As you accelerate, the line goes upwards until you're accelerating too hard, the line goes out of the circle and the wheels start spinning. As you brake the line goes downwards until you're braking too hard, the line goes out of the circle and you lock up. As you accelerate and turn left, the line moves up and to the left. Apply more power - the line goes up and out of the circle, the car understeers. Back off that power - the line goes down, re-enters the circle, the tyre regains grip and the car stops understeering, allowing it to turn.

 

[wana b drifter]

No, no, no, when you let off the gas the front end will go outside circle. and physics... i live my life by the laws of physics and what not but anyways i'll look it up for you. someones been feed'n you BS or you just don't know anything handling charactrics of a FWD car.

 

[CDailey]

Racer X
You scored -25%
Congratulations. You are the real thing. Chances are you could tear down your engine and put it back together in a weekend. You know a decent amount about racing dynamics. The "FATHF" culture has been a bane to your existence since you've been in the game for years before that horrid movie was released. Auto-x, drag racing, track time, you know enough to not sound like an ass while talking about it, and you can probably hold your own on the track too. Race on, good citizen, for you are a true Racer.

 

[PublicSecrecy]

Gran Turismorator
You scored -20%

woot. ironically ive only played GT3 twice in my life.

 

[ceiling_fan]

You are a respectable tuner. You probably subscribe to one or more tuner magazines and know, quite a bit about your car and/or racing in general. Either that or you play a ___load of GT3. [!] At any rate, you recognize the difference between a wastegate and a blow-off valve. In time, and with practice, you may attain "Racer X" status since it is supposed that you are relatively new to tuning and still have much to learn. Keep, working, and thank the maker that you're not a ricer.

Um, yeah, i think most people got this.

 

[wana b drifter]

ok try this on. its wet or snowy out. you go to make a turn. the wheels turn but the car goes dead ahead, what do you do? you accellerate!! to make the front tires pull you around the turn!! same goes for dry roads. your push'n your fwd car a bit you, brake entering a turn and coast thruogh it but the front end pushes to the outside next time you brake earlier and gradually accell through out the whole corner to make the front tires pull you around the corner because ITS A FWD CAR!! think about it. its a front wheel drive car. meaning the front tires put the power to the ground. MEANING the front tires must pull you around the corner WHICH MEANS they need some power going to them WHICH IS WAY YOU ACCELL THROUGH THE CORNER

 

[PublicSecrecy]

Due to centrifugal force it naturally wants to understeer at roughly .6 G. spinning, turning motion. Its what keeps roller coasters on their tracks in loops.

 

[pimp racer]

WOW I just kinda screwed around thinking it was only 10 questions and got a

-22 You are a respectable tuner. You probably subscribe to one or more tuner magazines and know, quite a bit about your car and/or racing in general. Either that or you play a ****load of GT3. At any rate, you recognize the difference between a wastegate and a blow-off valve. In time, and with practice, you may attain "Racer X" status since it is supposed that you are relatively new to tuning and still have much to learn. Keep, working, and thank the maker that you're not a ricer.

 

[DRIFT4EVA]

Gran Turismorator
You scored -11% You are a respectable tuner. You probably subscribe to one or more tuner magazines and know, quite a bit about your car and/or racing in general. Either that or you play a shizload of GT3. At any rate, you recognize the difference between a wastegate and a blow-off valve. In time, and with practice, you may attain "Racer X" status since it is supposed that you are relatively new to tuning and still have much to learn. Keep, working, and thank the maker that you're not a ricer.

Bouyakasha! I got this. I'm loving that pic. It's funny as hell. Plus I'm happy to not be a ricer.