racing the ovals

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I have this massively irritating problem with this track. doesn't matter what class I do or the vehicle, everytime I race this track I get hit from behind (like a cop's pit manuver) and it sends me spinning out of control. Always happens in the same point of the race, one and a half laps in, without fail. Tried it in the Nascar race several times, and also tried it in the truck challenge. Same thing.

Actually, that truck challenge really urks me. I can tune my truck (Toyota Tacoma, which is the ONLY truck I can find so far) to the max, getting about 500+ hp. Top speed is only 140. I accellerate like a man posessed, no problem there. Once I hit about 140, tho, I govern out and they start passing me like I'm not moving. And, of course that pit manuver hits me and I do the funky chicken all over the track.

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, have you found a solution to it? I never had a problem like this on any other track, just the oval.

Oh, BTW, this pit manuver happens on a straight-away.

Thanks in advance for any help on this matter.
 
Hey, sounds like your still pretty early on in this game. If im reading you right your talking about the Nascar events for the most part. When it comes to the truck race you just need to build a truck that dusts the others. You need power and proper gearing.

Nascar is a whole different story. That was one of the most frustrating parts of the game when i started. Just couldnt get separation and distance. They stick with you the whole race and only a lot of practice and ability will get you through. Takes skill and finesse.
 
I assume you're talking about Daytona, because the AI love using the PIT maneuver there.

As for top speed..... buy a fully customizable gearbox and change your top speed.

TheRedStig
Takes skill and finesse.
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I would say that it takes more luck than skill, but that's just my opinion on the Nascar runs at Daytona.
 
another_jakhole
Fully customizable transmission. I don't think you're remembering to adjust the gears.
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You're right, I think the gears were the only thing I never tinkered with.

You're also right, Stig, very new to GT5. Only lvl 23 A-spec and I think about 8 on B-spec. Still got lots to learn and accomplish.

I'll give the gears adjustments a go and see how it goes for me. Wish me luck...lol.
 
I sincerely hope NASCAR gets scrapped for 6. I'd love to keep the tracks, but the cars can die a miserable death.

Before 5, I generally had no opinion of NASCAR, or their drivers.

Now... well, if I ever see Jeff Gordon he's gonna get a punch in the face.
 
McClarenDesign
I sincerely hope NASCAR gets scrapped for 6. I'd love to keep the tracks, but the cars can die a miserable death.

Before 5, I generally had no opinion of NASCAR, or their drivers.

Now... well, if I ever see Jeff Gordon he's gonna get a punch in the face.
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+1

I don't hate Nascar. I even think that oval racing in iRacing is a blast. But in GT...... it's terrible. It is in no way close to being a realistic experience in this game. But even then, just because something is not realistic doesn't mean it's not fun.... the other problem is that it's just not fun, it's just painful.
 
It can only get better. I can't wait to see how they set the racing leagues apart in GT6.

Some people love NASCAR in GT5 and not from the U.S.
 
I enjoy racing it but its too few cars to really have a good race with 12 (as I say this I forget about IROC). Either way I love racing the Cup cars.
 
Well, I increased the top speed in my gearing (for the last race in the truck challenge), and won it all too easily. Can't beleive I never thought of it myself. One of those noob things, I guess.

As far as nascar goes....meh. So far I have no real opinion of it mostly because I don't really have alot of knowledge on it. I understand all the drivers run basically the same car with different sponsoring plastered all over them, and they seem to favor the oval track. Why they do, I have no idea. Other than that, I'm clueless.

I'll attept the nascar in GT5 from time to time as my skill in the game increases. Not going to lose any sleep over it trying to master it all in one sitting. Personally, I favor the twists and turns in a track. Long stretches are good to a point (especially if you have an over powered car), but imo, races are won or lost in the turns, especially if everyone is running the same car.
 
NASCAR has it's roots in oval track racing, so it's not so much a matter of preference as it is in how the sport was started.
 
Short Bus
NASCAR has it's roots in oval track racing, so it's not so much a matter of preference as it is in how the sport was started.
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Didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. Good to see a sport where they stick to their roots rather than change everything everytime someone turns around.

And is it true that ALL their cars are exactly the same? I know with all types of racing the cars have a certain "spec" they have to adhere to and some with have slightly more horsepower or whatever, but I think I heard somewhere all nascar cars are identical as far as stats go. Only difference is the sponsor decalling.
 
Mavryk
Didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. Good to see a sport where they stick to their roots rather than change everything everytime someone turns around.

And is it true that ALL their cars are exactly the same? I know with all types of racing the cars have a certain "spec" they have to adhere to and some with have slightly more horsepower or whatever, but I think I heard somewhere all nascar cars are identical as far as stats go. Only difference is the sponsor decalling.
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I wouldn't say "exactly the same" but they are all very, very similar. There's still enough variation between the cars as well as a seemingly infinite number of setup options available to consider some to be faster than others.
 
I think the cars are pretty much identical, with minor differences in some parts of car set up? I find NASCAR terribly boring, so I may be wrong lol :)
 
I actually tend to fare better at Indy than I do Daytona. Superspeedway-Indianapolis is more like a high-speed road course than a true oval. Superspeedway-Daytona is a very proper oval. Often times, I have a tough time getting through the corners at Daytona. My biggest problem is usually trying to get through the corners without tagging or grinding the outside wall. Also, I am terrible at drafting at Daytona.

All you can really do is practice. Also, it goes to show you that racing an oval is NOT as easy as it seems. There is an exact science to racing an oval successfully. If there wasn't an exact science to this kind of racing, then of course oval racing would be child's play. Learn the tactics and techniques of oval racing and become a champion.
 
McClarenDesign
Now... well, if I ever see Jeff Gordon he's gonna get a punch in the face.
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He won't really mind, since he's a zombie and all...


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iAnderton
I think the cars are pretty much identical, with minor differences in some parts of car set up? I find NASCAR terribly boring, so I may be wrong lol :)
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Nothing is boring if you understand the details behind it. Like JohnB mentioned, there's a science to it. Not as easy as it looks. From what I gather, it's about 85% driver skill and 15% car...or there abouts.
 
Mavryk
Nothing is boring if you understand the details behind it. Like JohnB mentioned, there's a science to it. Not as easy as it looks. From what I gather, it's about 85% driver skill and 15% car...or there abouts.
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Yes I understand how the science behind it isn't boring, but from spectator viewpoint, I just don't think NASCAR provides a very exciting spectacle :) I'm more of a sportscar fan myself, so NASCAR has never really excited me, but I still understand why people would enjoy watching it :)
 
iAnderton
Yes I understand how the science behind it isn't boring, but from spectator viewpoint, I just don't think NASCAR provides a very exciting spectacle :) I'm more of a sportscar fan myself, so NASCAR has never really excited me, but I still understand why people would enjoy watching it :)
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IMO the super-speedways like Talladega and Daytona are about as much fun as watching paint dry for the first 80% of the race. During that time all each team is really trying to do is stay on the lead lap and not wreck. It's the last 20% where the action begins. Unfortunately the super-speedway races make up about 75% of the schedule.

Something you might give a try are the NASCAR road races, those can be a riot to watch. Also, if you ever see a short track race, like Bristol or Martinsville, at least give those a few minutes to see what you think. I love the short track races because it's non stop action through the entire length of the race.

My #1 beef with NASCAR though is not the tracks or the cars, it's the coverage, which is terrible. They spend most of the time zoomed way in or using camera angles that don't really show you any of the racing. It's like they think all people want to see is fast moving objects making loud noises, which may be true.... but for me, I want to watch the finer details of how a driver is positioning his car, which can't be seen from the "digger cam."
 
iAnderton
Yes I understand how the science behind it isn't boring, but from spectator viewpoint, I just don't think NASCAR provides a very exciting spectacle :) I'm more of a sportscar fan myself, so NASCAR has never really excited me, but I still understand why people would enjoy watching it :)
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I understand where you're coming from. Science or no science, watching cars go around and around can get old fast. Right up there with tennis and curling. There's a science to those too.
 
I find it funny that the ones that hate NASCAR are usually the ones that can't drive the cars in the game so they just flame the sport to try to justify their inability to drive and race these cars. Don't hate the sport just because you aren't any good at it in the game.
 
KB18FAN
I find it funny that the ones that hate NASCAR are usually the ones that can't drive the cars in the game so they just flame the sport to try to justify their inability to drive and race these cars. Don't hate the sport just because you aren't any good at it in the game.
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I find the cars straightforward to drive, Just don't really like that form of racing. I've tried watching it before but I just find it boring in comparrison to sportscars and F1 :)
 
Nascar is awesome not watch but race in....in Gt5 is good I mean sometimes there is realism like I turn to much at a high speed on a banking and the car spins in etc but sometimes it can be annoying. Wait till you get to the NASCAR special event....thats what kills it...the NASCAR event in extreme series is pretty fun too.
 
I love the NASCARs in GT5, became a fan because of 'em! Anybody also going to the Martinsville race in April? :)
 
For me i dont see too much value in the nascars
For what it is worth, these reflect nothing on what goes into them, so there ought to be just one car per manufacturer with teams as a paint choice or maybe even one model with all the paints. All cars are built to tight specs, so what is the issue? Only difference is stuff like bump stops and whatnot.
I did like the start with dirt track ovals and even paved when the cars were different (eg: 70s when the charger daytona was around)

For what it adds to the game though, i dont NEED 30 odd nascar cars
 
There is a skill involved with the Nascar series that can be appreciated, but that race at Daytona is a killer. I ended up shortening the ratio so that I got a better drive out of the corners but still didn't hit the limiter on the straights. I also adjusted brakes to 0/0 or 1/1 (lowest they go) since ASM can't be turned off and hurts cornering speed. Think this may just be the special events though?

Nascar's on road courses are good fun though when tyre wear is on, real technique in that as you can compensate cornering for tyre life.
 

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