Rally race help

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I've been handling most of the special events easily until I got to the rally races. Due to my ignorance I first tried it with just a regular car and slapped on some dirt tires. That was stupid. Later I came across a Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car in the used dealership and picked it up. That was much better, but all I could manage to do was eek my way into 3rd overall in the beginner event.

I'm wondering if any of you who are actually good at rally racing can help me out a little. I understand tuning for road racing, but don't have a clue when it comes to dirt and snow. I'm not a drifter either, so I don't feel very comfortable sliding through turns. I know that is something I'll just have to get over, but any tips would be helpful.
 
Someone please answer this too! I suck at rallying in GT, its like I dont get any feedback through the controller.
 
I used a subaru wagon for the first two events without much problem and little to no tuning. The snow events should be really easy as the AI is really slow on snow, I usualyled pass them during the stage.

Gravel and tarmac are definitely harder. I found if you turn off traction control, or at least turn it down it helps a lot. On gravel I start turning before the corner so I'm lined up for the next straight. I'm definitely no pro though.

Try and look up some replays on youtube and look for the lines the fast players take, that should help too.
 
I used a Toyota starlet Glanza for the beginner. You can tune right up to the max HP and make it VERY light. I got gold easily and I don't count myself as a particularly good player.
 
try driving slower and stick to the racing line. Mashing the throttle will not equal the fastest times. The key is to maintain your speed through turns so you will need to learn to slide through them, but not to the point that the car isn't pointed in the right direction as that will slow you down too.

Watch the demo for the rally as well. This will help a lot and show you how fast you should be driving at certain parts of the track.
 
Don't use TCS as Rally car needs their wheel spinning to produce forward speed. Brake and turn in earlier(try not to do it at the same time). And despite how bad the pace note is, try to get something out of it to help you anticipate the coming course, failing that, pay some attention to gear # indicator as it'll also give you an idea on the severity of the corner. Use a lot of part-throttle driving as the car will wash out a lot easier on dirt.
 
For the beginning rally, I use 07 Mini Cooper S and upgrade to 240hp, the FF handle really good at the snow and road rally. If you still have trouble, turn on the racing line and break early before the corners. Keep trying, you will get it eventually :)
 
For the begginer Rally i used an older FF Civic... tuned to the max allowed HP. Didnt have much trouble. The dirt tracks took a few tries, Snow was retardedly easy, and tarmac was not too bad either.

For the Intermediate I used a premium Impreza WRX STI '10. Tuned it up to the max allowed HP and also put on the torque sensing Diff and close ratio tranny. I have the Diff set to around 40/60 front/rear, to allow for drifting, but still easy to get back under control. Again, the Dirt took a few tries, Tarmac was fairly easy, and the Snow.... I beat by 1:18:00+. lol they made snow way to easy.

Try out that Car... it worked really well for me.

As for the Advanced... I am currently working on it at the moment. It sucks that I cant use my Impreza though, becuase you have to use an "actuall" rally car. I am using a Ford WRC that i got as a prize car. bassically the same settings as the impreza. So far, the Dirt is proving difficult... you really have to focus and not screw up, because there are so many events to go through and still stay on top (8 i think?)

As for technique... on the dirt you need to brake early for corners, in order to have maximum speed coming out. getting really sideways is not really a good thing.
 
I can't remember what car I used for the beginner rally, it may have also been a Civic... it was a prize car from somewhere, I know I didn't buy one.

Skip ahead and do the Sebastien Loeb Rally Challenge if you can. It's not open until level 16, but you don't need a car to do it, and the Citreon you win can be used for Rally Intermediate, and with a slight mod, also Advanced.

I'm using a wheel, and I think that made a big difference (well, the pedals, actually). Turn of TCS, and also turn off ABS. With ABS on, it's hard to distinguish between when the ABS is slowing the car, or when you are just skidding too much across the dirt/snow without slowing down
 
Skip ahead and do the Sebastien Loeb Rally Challenge if you can. It's not open until level 16, but you don't need a car to do it, and the Citreon you win can be used for Rally Intermediate, and with a slight mod, also Advanced.

Come on, the guy can't do the easy rally, I think that challenge is too tough.
 
Thanks for all the tips guys. I think I have the civic right now, although I may need to take some stuff off of it to clear the power restraints. I would think FF will make it much easier. I'll give it another go tonight.
 
I used a Renault Clio, I modded it so it had 345bhp and make sure you buy the chassis upgrades, suspension etc.

It worked fine, you just have to remember that when rallying your car isn't going to turn like a normal race, the best way for me is Off the throttle way before the corner, brake slightly and let your car slide round, doing slight adjustments to the steering, if you're trying to take corners like you're on tarmac you'll never win.

I normally find that in the special events rally I am almost always overtaking all 3 cars in the longer runs.
 
For beginner I used the Mini cooper S.
For intermediate I think I used Citroen WRC (Loeb car) - only oil refresh done
For harder rally same Citroen WRC with extra turbo.
 
I used an Evo II GSR without an oil change (as it was 244bhp) but all other mods, it was a complete weapon for the first series of events. For the second I used a 'stock' Evo Super Rally Car, and decimated everyone. In the last series, I used a fully modded Evo Super Rally Car, and won each event by at least a minute and a half.

I find it difficult to get in the mindset of anyone other than my own when I give advice, but I just turned off all aids except ABS (as always) and just went for it. Sorry, that's useless, I know.
 
Contrary to popular belief, you don't want to "drift" in rally, as that will cause to slow down too much.

^This is true... BUT! You do need to allow the car to have a "controlled" amount of slide so by letting the cars slide through to the apex and then straightening out you can be accelerating out of the corner directly where you are heading next. This is important because it is very hard on low grip surfaces to put power down whilst maintaining any steering lock... 👍 Think of it this way, if you race on a normal racing circuit with a 250HP car vs a 750HP car with the same tyres and setup. You can probably just mash the throttle on the 250HP car from the apex whilst still steering but in the 750HP car you must blend the throttle on as you reduce the steering angle more and more. This is the principle for the sliding in rally cars, albeit accentuated due to the extremely low levels of grip available. Hence, turn-in enough to get a controlled slide then once the car is pointing at the desired exit. Straighten the car out and put on the power, so all acceleration forces are going in the direction of the corner exit. This will ensure all acceleration is going in the direction you need and your not just flailing about on the track from side to side. :sly: Hope this helps, Cheers. :)
 
Come on, the guy can't do the easy rally, I think that challenge is too tough.

Disagree. You get a great car that's easy to drive and learn to rally in, and for doing it, you win that same great car. Sure you have to delay doing the Rally event a bit cause of the level requirement for Leob, but if you're trying not to spend money needlessly, it was worth it
 
best car for the 245hp rally event hands down is the audi TT coupe (the one with 240hp) awd, light weight mod it, gravel and snow tyres etc etc, you'll smoke that event easily!!.

For intermediate I used a modded up impreza, any will do

For advanced I used a Subaru protype rally car 03? with race turbo, race softs for tarmac event,
also never put full wet tyres on for the wet rally tarmac events, just use intermediates,
 
As others have said, best to turn off traction control and start turning before the actual corner as the car will react more slowly if it's not on tarmac. while drifiting, point the nose at the exit of the corner. This is much easier in a 4wd car by the way. Also, driving manually will allow you to control your entry and exit speed better, so I'd advise on practising that if you normally drive automatic.

I found the best car on easy is the Lancia Delta Integrale. 4WD will help massively in maintaining stability while drifting through corners. It doesn't really need any power upgrades, but a close ratio gearbox will really help on tarmac.

On Intermediate I used the TM Evo 6, both gravel and snow were not too hard with that. Tarmac can be a bit tricky, but it can be done with that car. Alternatively, since it's tarmac, I ran it again with an Atenza touring car (only costs 30.000 used) and found it much easier as you can use downforce to keep you glued to the road.

On expert I used the Lancia Delta S4. It's probably not the best car for cornering, but its straightline acceleration is amazing. Use part throttle and don't overcook it when going into slow corners. I actually found the gear indicators more useful than the pace notes when deciding what speed to go through a corner.

Tarmac can be hard tricky on expert, as you will be doing many stages on a wet road and one in partial darkness. This is one case where you really will need to fiddle with settings. Best to use a bit of traction control, softer suspension settings and rain/intermediate tires for these. It's probably the hardest rally event, but if you've gotten this far, it shouldn't take more than a few tries.
 
Come on, the guy can't do the easy rally, I think that challenge is too tough.

The Sebastian Loeb rally bits are easier than the GT ones imo. I was having trouble so I golded the Loeb ones and used the rally car for the others.
 
Contrary to popular belief, you don't want to "drift" in rally, as that will cause to slow down too much.

That is good advice for you if you are struggling. Also go back to the licences and try to get Golds in the rally tests. Even if you struggle with them you will learn a lot when you get your speed right through a corner and watch your sideways drifting ghost dissappear from the rear view mirror as it loses time.
 
I'm having a lot of trouble with Rally intermediate.

The worst thing is that after you mess up one race there is no way to just restart that one race. And after each race there is no quit option. You have to enter the next race pause and "retire" :)
 
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