READ THE OP! GTP Cool Wall Nomination Thread [Always accepting more cars!]

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1999-2012 Corbin Sparrow/Myers Motors NmG

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Body Style:
2-door coupe (Pizza Butt), 1-door (Jelly Bean)
Engine: 156-volt DC or 3-phase AC electric motor
Power: 27 HP
Weight: 610 kg
Drivetrain: Front engine, Rear wheel Drive
Additional Information: Optional, but here is where you can include facts that may swing someone's vot

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2022 - 2023 Aston Martin V12 Vantage

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Body Style: 2-Door Coupe
Engine: 5.2 liter, Aston Martin AE31 twin-turbocharged V12
Power: 690 HP
Torque: 555 lb-ft
Weight: 1,795 kg
Transmission: 8-Speed ZF 8HP75 Automatic
Drivetrain: Front-Mid Engine, Rear Wheel Drive

Additional Information: The final V12 Vantage. only 333 will ever be made and all have been sold. The main feature is, of course, the unique V12 engine compared to the other 2017+ Vantage models, which have all sported an AMG V8 until now. The car is equipped with a custom, factory-installed aero kit made specially for this edition.

Also, potentially the final Aston Martin production model to carry the brand's signature V12.​
 

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1977-1986 BMW 7 Series (E23)
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Body Style: 4dr sedan
Engine: 2.5-3.0L M30 i6, 3.2L M102 turbo i6, 3.4l M106 turbo i6, 3.5l M90 i6, 3.5 M88/3 i6
Power: 150-286 hp
Torque: 156-280 lb-ft
Weight: 1470-1629 kg
Transmission: 3 and 4-speed automatic, 4 and 5 speed manual
Drivetrain: FR

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1999-2001 Dodge Ramcharger
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Body Style: 2dr SUV
Engine: 5.2L V8, 5.9L V8
Power: 230-360 hp
Torque: 300-412 lb-ft
Transmission: 4-speed auto, 4-speed manual
Drivetrain: MR
Additional Information: Built and sold only in Mexico following the success of prior generation Ramchargers there - The back had a sideways-folding 3rd row and the hatch from a minivan.
 
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Yes. I haven't put in the information yet cause I have work all day, but I'll specify the fun story of the car in the additional info section.
I was just curious because I worked for Chrysler from 1983 to 2006 and I thought that's what it was but I had never actually seen one to know what they looked like.
 
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1984-1989 Renault 9/11 Turbo
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Body Style: 4dr sedan (R9), 3 and 5 door hatchback (R11)
Engine: 1.4l Cleon Fonte i4 Turbo
Power: 105-115 hp
Torque: 120-122 lb-ft
Weight: 910 kg
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Drivetrain: FF

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Maybe ease up on race cars if we can. I don't want to ban them again yet but I don't want them to overpower everything else.
I think it would be a good idea to limit to one race car per user, until polled. Because some users nominate two race cars in a row.
 
GTP Cool Wall: 2022- Acura Integra

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Body Style: 5-door liftback sedan
Engine: 1.5L turbocharged I4
Power: 200hp
Torque: 190 lb-ft
Weight: 1340kg
Transmission: CVT, 6-speed manual
Drivetrain: front engine, front wheel drive
Additional Information: The new Integra will only be offered in North American markets. This nomination does not include the Chinese-spec Integra. Starting price is $31,900, and $35,800 with the 6-speed manual. Although it has almost identical specifications compared to the Civic SI, reviewers have found the Integra to be quicker and more refined.​
 
GTP Cool Wall: 2022- Cadillac Escalade V

2023 Cadillac Escalade V Sports Aggressive Design in New Photos

Body Style: 5-door sport utility vehicle
Engine: 6.2L supercharged V8
Power: 682hp
Torque: 653 lb-ft
Weight: 2640kg
Transmission: 10-speed automatic
Drivetrain: front-engine, all-wheel drive
Additional Information: Cadillac's most expensive and powerful vehicle ever. It is also the most powerful SUV currently on the market. Has a 0-60 time of 4.3 seconds. Starting price of $149,990.​
 
1998 Porsche 911 GT1-98

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Racing Class: LMGT1
Engine: 3.2 L Porsche F6 Twin Turbo
Power: 592 HP / 7200 rpm
Torque: Over 465 lb-ft / 5000 rpm
Weight: 950 kg
Transmission: 6 speed Sequential
Drivetrain: Mid Engine, Rear wheel drive
Additional Information: Winner 24 Hours of Le Mans 1998

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1991-1998 Citroen ZX 16v
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Body Style: 3 door hatchback
Engine: 2.0l i4 PSA XU10
Power: 150-161 hp
Torque: 135-142 lb-ft
Weight: 1150-1170 kg
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Drivetrain: FF

This doesnt include Volcane which is weaker but accented with red stripes and same bodykit.
 
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They produced two of these, and they are street legal, and I wanna inject it into the GTP public consciousness:

1989 Evans-Kudzu Series I GT
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Body Style: 2dr coupe
Engine: 5.7L Chevrolet V8
Power: 300 hp
Torque: 350 lb-ft (estimate)
Weight: 975 kg
Drivetrain: MR
Country: USA
 
• 2009 NISMO GT-R GT1 (R35)

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• 2015- NISMO GT-R GT3 (R35)

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Do we really need to do both? At the same time?

Do other voters get annoyed at this kind of thing or is it just me? If it's just me I'll quit my bellyaching. I'm not trying to be an ass at all, please don't read it that way, I just want to see what would make the cool wall more enjoyable for everyone.
 
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Do we really need to do both? At the same time?

Do other voters get annoyed at this kind of thing or is it just me? If it's just me I'll quit my bellyaching. I'm not trying to be an ass at all, please don't read it that way, I just want to see what would make the cool wall more enjoyable for everyone.
I don't think it's a good idea, especially since racing cars don't usually get as many votes compared to road cars, even when there are two similar cars. There is also a chance that the last car will get more "Meh" votes, regardless of whether it had a successful racing history, because a similar car was polled before that.
 
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Do we really need to do both? At the same time?

Do other voters get annoyed at this kind of thing or is it just me? If it's just me I'll quit my bellyaching. I'm not trying to be an ass at all, please don't read it that way, I just want to see what would make the cool wall more enjoyable for everyone.
I really don't see a problem with them. 🙄 They're two VERY different cars after all, despite the similar LOOKS. By the way, race-spec and track day cars are HUGELY outnumbered by road-going/legal cars here, sooo... 🤷
 
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I really don't see a problem with them. 🙄 They're two VERY different cars after all, despite the similar LOOKS. By the way, race-spec and track day cars are HUGELY outnumbered by road-going/legal cars here, sooo... 🤷
They're hugely outnumbered because in the past, there was a rule against them. There's no need to equalize them. At first I was fine doing a race car here and there, since someone removed that rule before I started to curate (but despite that, no one actually nominated a race car until a few hundred polls later). Basically, they're outnumbered because the voters seemingly vastly prefer to vote on road cars than race cars. Back in the days of longer cool wall threads people argued about this a lot, and the anti-race car people won out and banned them. And I mean you can say they're different all you want but they're still both "racing versions of the R35" and many people probably won't click into the threads to read about the differences. They'll just see it and think "this again?" And if they get too tired of "this again?"-ing, seemingly only ever with race cars that already get less votes than road cars, they might just start making rumblings of banning race cars again. And even though I've scoffed at "SUBRC" in the past, I've been starting to agree more and more with their views since the race cars began getting more prevalent.

And also, let's take a look at some statistics, just so you know I'm not trying to talk out of my ass to remove these cars from the queue. When we did 2 Mercedes-Benz Formula cars, one right after the other (despite, once again, concerns being brought up), here's the results:
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The first one got 30 votes, the second got 18. And those were way more different than these. They had nearly 20 years between them, these Nismos have 6, and have the same body shell.

The two forgotten formula cars had a similar, but less pronounced effect, the first having 28 and the second having 23. In that case, the first poll was probably more interesting than the second poll because the car in the first poll was objectively worse (failed to race lmao) and attracted the extra discussions and votes, and by extension fun. Still a swing from a medium-to-good poll to a poor one in terms of voter participation.

And even in times when the voting numbers don't get tanked, the car itself will seem to attract less discussion. When you nominated both those Lotus Cosworths right next to each other, the second poll had one (1) reply other than my own obligatory one. Whichever car comes second, as @Cristobal1234 mentioned above, also seems to attract more meh votes as well:
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Now I'm sure some people do think the Type 72 is cooler than the Type 79. I said as much in my post there, I thought the 72 looked better and got the edge from me. But since only 2 out of 24 voters bothered to explain their reasoning on that second car (Because most people probably thought their reasoning for their vote is no different from their reasoning 2 days prior), we have no way to know.

I don't wanna act like some power-tripping reddit mod and force you to change your nominations, but speaking as the curator in charge, it is my opinion that despite any differences between the two cars, one of them should be changed to something else, for the general enjoyment of the greatest amount of voters. (of course if any voters disagree with my reasoning/think I'm being hyperbolic please do let me know. I'm trying as hard as I can to be civil)
 
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