Real in-car sound in the Corvette C5-R

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Although the sounds are much improved in GT4-P, and will probably be better in GT4, the gearbox sound seems to remain present, while you don't hear it in reality.

In this short and chaotic :) video (choose belcar2004startnurbring.wmv) of the Belcar race on the Nurbürgring last weekend, you have an excellent idea of how the in-car sound in the Corvette really should be.

btw the video shows the M3 V8 GTR in action, which won the race.
 
Have you ever driven a C5-R?

I can tell you that when you drive a proper racing car, with a full-on competition gearbox with straight cut gears, the gearbox sound is certainly loud no matter what any 'in-car' camera footage sounds like.
 
Also a point to add to this is... with weight reductions and stuff one of the first things to go is the sound proofing and carpet and needless crap that is only useful if you want to carry passengers in your car!!

This would make the interior of the car a much louder place...

For an example of this... try driving your hatchback without your parcel shelf in?!

How much more road noise can you hear now?

C.
 
Also consider how rediculously loud a 7 litre V8 in racing trim can be. The gearbox isn't quite so loud relative to the fury coming out the exhaust pipes!

On any racing car not insanely loud engined though, the gearbox noise is most certainly evident. More often than not, what you hear more of is the differential spinning, not the gears and synchros themselves, although straight cut gears (as mentioned above) can clearly be audible.
 
I watched LeMans footage on Sunday (this years' race) and the Corvettes could be told apart very easily because of the beautiful exhaust note - a very muscly sounding V8 (of which no car in any Gran Turismo game sounds like it).
 
You must have missed the 24 Hour Le Mans race this year because the new gearbox could easily be heard. It sounded sooooo sweet, too. I hope the gearbox noises are all unique, similar to the enginge noises.
 
Buggy Boy
Although the sounds are much improved in GT4-P, and will probably be better in GT4, the gearbox sound seems to remain present, while you don't hear it in reality.

In this short and chaotic :) video (choose belcar2004startnurbring.wmv) of the Belcar race on the Nurbürgring last weekend, you have an excellent idea of how the in-car sound in the Corvette really should be.

btw the video shows the M3 V8 GTR in action, which won the race.
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The Corvette C5-R should sound like the Panoz you hear in GT3. They have the same liter and size of a engine. But thats if PD updates the 2000 car to the 2004 car. Which I doubt they would do.
 
Darin, are you sure?

I'm positive the Panoz LMP's had 6.0 litre Roush V8s, not 7.0 litre Chevy V8s...


Of course I could be quite wrong!
 
Noo, the poor Porsche... :(

Also, with the engine sounds, I'm sure that camera doesn't have the best sound equipment. Plus, there is all sorts of vibrations, which distorts the sound.
 
...like the PANOZ??? ...oh boy the panoz sounds horrible and like the ford gt40 though it´s not that old!!!
 
RoadBeef
Darin, are you sure?

I'm positive the Panoz LMP's had 6.0 litre Roush V8s, not 7.0 litre Chevy V8s...


Of course I could be quite wrong!
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The one in GT3 is the 1998 model. The last model of the Esperate. In the LMP's they did have 6.0's in 1999, but in 2000, they went to 7.0 Roush V8. Whereas the corvettes also have 7.0 liters in 2001.


GT-One Lover
...like the PANOZ??? ...oh boy the panoz sounds horrible and like the ford gt40 though it´s not that old!!!
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Its funny, you can't say the panoz sounds bad in the game. When you hear it in real life it makes your ears ring.
 
...1.the ESPERANTE really only exist til 1998(the car u ment was the LMP1!!!)
...2.but i know how the panoz sounds in real life and the sound in GT3 is a completely DIFFERENT ONE!!!...but i don´t know if it sounds different by ur game because ive the GERMAN VERSION)
 
GT-One Lover
...1.the ESPERANTE really only exist til 1998(the car u ment was the LMP1!!!)
...2.but i know how the panoz sounds in real life and the sound in GT3 is a completely DIFFERENT ONE!!!...but i don´t know if it sounds different by ur game because ive the GERMAN VERSION)
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Well, of course. The Esperate evolved into the LMP1. But the first year of the LMP1 it had the same engine.

Every GT3 game sounds the same. Just the PAL and NTSC|JP have a better resolution on their TV from what I heard.

It seems you did a good amount of spamming here in the GT4 Forums. ;)
 
...spamming??? u started talking about topics which have not many to do with the thread!!!...so back to the real topic: it can be true that the corvette sounds very well.
it can be because it was perhaps corrected/modified or they really recorded the sound of this car and transported it into their laptop!!!
 
GT-ONE Lover - Is this spamming? Yes!
 

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I watched LeMans footage on Sunday (this years' race) and the Corvettes could be told apart very easily because of the beautiful exhaust note - a very muscly sounding V8 (of which no car in any Gran Turismo game sounds like it).
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Hiya! :D :O :lol:

I saw a long endurance race yesterday, but somehow not sureif it was a playback of a Lemans! It showed the Audi winning so it does sound familiar as I heard about the Audi winning two straight times now :O About the Corvette C5-R sound from the race...I would have to agree very very VERY much! I was watching for a bit and then decided to do something while listening to the talking people talk about the race and listen to the sounds of the cars from the TV. Then this sound so catchy and beautifully intimidating sound came from the TV and made my head TURN! :crazy: :lol: :O:O:O:O
 
wow. all this talk about engine sounds and im not even sure many people understand what determines how an engine sounds. valve size and exhaust diameter determine more of how an engine sounds rather than engine displacement. sure displacement changes things but two identical engine blocks can produce significantly different sounds using different heads and/or cams. thats why a 5.7L ferrari sounds nothing like a 5.7L chevy. chevy uses one huge exhaust valve which makes it sound so throaty while the ferrari has 4 extra cylinders and "tiny" exhaust ports which makes it raspy (along with its tuned exhaust that is designed to give classic ferrari sound). dont try to compare this game to stuff u see on the speed channel or any of its equals, please...much of what u hear on tv has been filtered numerous times anyway.
 
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GT-ONE Lover - Is this spamming? Yes!
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8 posts in almost 2 hours.. Hell no.

10 posts in 10 minutes is more like spamming.
 
Darin
The one in GT3 is the 1998 model. The last model of the Esperate. In the LMP's they did have 6.0's in 1999, but in 2000, they went to 7.0 Roush V8. Whereas the corvettes also have 7.0 liters in 2001.
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the info!
 
Motor trend Mosler MT900 Photon summary...

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*Howlin' Hewland straight-cut gearbox

The Hewland in the MT900 Photon (and MT900R) is a real sequential racing gearbox (as opposed to the MT900s's 911 Carerra gearbox) and it is very loud. I'm sure they'd incorporate the gearbox whine still.

Next time you're sittin around watching qualifying listen to when the driver cuts off the engine at the end of the 2nd hot lap, and even though the Jerico transmission is in neutural, and the engine is off, while the car coasts back around the track to the pits you can still hear the whine with the engine off.
 
Pfft, call that spam?

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That's spam.

Sound's been an issue of much contention, almost as much as AI, be it tyre sounds, engine noises, gearboxes, whatever. Considering the lengths PD are going to to provide a new and improved GT experience, I'd expect sound to be one of the things towards the top of the list to do better. Have we actually had a clip where we could hear the engine of a C5-R?

And Yeti is also right that the sounds you hear on TV and from in car footage are vastly different to the sounds the actual driver hears, which aren't the almost pleasant whine of the engine (in F1 for example) but rather far more mechanical noises of things going on in the car.
 
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wow. all this talk about engine sounds and im not even sure many people understand what determines how an engine sounds. valve size and exhaust diameter determine more of how an engine sounds rather than engine displacement. sure displacement changes things but two identical engine blocks can produce significantly different sounds using different heads and/or cams. thats why a 5.7L ferrari sounds nothing like a 5.7L chevy. chevy uses one huge exhaust valve which makes it sound so throaty while the ferrari has 4 extra cylinders and "tiny" exhaust ports which makes it raspy (along with its tuned exhaust that is designed to give classic ferrari sound). dont try to compare this game to stuff u see on the speed channel or any of its equals, please...much of what u hear on tv has been filtered numerous times anyway.
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The biggest reason why engines sound the way they do tends to be:

1) Firing order

2) Flat-plain cranks (thats why a Ferrari doesn't sound like a chevy)

3) Exhaust manifold style (ie GT40s sound different to similar engined mustangs and Cobras because their exhausts exit behind then up above the engine (height) into a double collector/muffler. And why a 4ltr TVR Griffith sounds different to a 4ltr LandRover Discovery, the TVR has manifolds that collect infront of the engine, then into a single 'drain-pipe' sized collector that then runs back underneith the car.

4) Airbox manifolds (ie how the air is collected for the fuel mixture)
 
even driving the MR2 that I have because the engine is on the back and the tranny is quite close I do hear tranny noise in lower rpms
it's not uncommon for sports cars to make louder transmission noises especially ones without more advanced electonric controls
 
As stated previously in this post, I am waiting with anticipation that the sound will be greatly improved with this new version of the game. I think the GT series has done so well in so many other areas, that this is the only one left that really irritates me to any significant degree.

I would love to see (or more importantly, hear) a greater variation of sounds based on car configuration. That is, to include other sounds besides that of the exhaust note. As an example, here's a short clip of me and some of my car club heading down the straight at a road course we rented out. The first car is a Chevy Impala SS (which was the biggest/heaviest AND fastest out of all of us! 👍 ), next is a Pontiac TA, then a Eagle Talon, then my Blue Cobra (listen for the supercharger whine. Details like this are what I'm getting at), then there's an Acura Integra, a Dodge SRT-4, and then a brief glimpse of mine again:

http://www.arscca.org/Videos/RoadCourses/Hallett/06-05-2004/06-05-04HallettFrontStraight.wmv

I would love to see great advances in the specific sound characteristics of the different cars in GT4.
 
thecracker...im sorry but ur crazy. valve size and shape are easily the most determining factor in engine sound (next to the exhaust piping obviously). putting firing order as number 1 is ridiculous. 60 degree chevy v6's were made to sound like quiet chevy v8's which alternated firing from one bank to another whereas the 60 degree motors fired 1-2-3-4-5-6 which is very odd. sound comes from vibrations which is related to frequencies. since most motors fire on one side then the other and so on, how can one v8 be differed from another. all are gonna have 2 firings on each side per rotation. so therefore, all v8's with normal firing orders should sound the same. u are way off base if u think firing order plays a huge part in sound. not even gonna address cranks...thats also way off base. compression yes, stroke yes, but not the crank. crank may play a part in both of those but either can also be changed by con rods. exhaust manifold yes...equal or odd length headers can definately change how a motor sounds, along with diameter which will obviously change the frequency of the air bouncing around, which, once again, affects how sounds is heard. so once again, valve size and shape and the cam can control the velocity, amount of turbulence and pressure (related to velocity) that the exhaust comes out at which affects frequency which is the root of all sound.
 
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