Recommend me an engine.

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VIPERGTSR01
Most good engines for this project has been mentioned. How about a SR20DET from a GTi-R Sunny/Pulsar? (sorry if that particular engine has been mentioned) Good power, good response, great reliability if serviced properly.
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What about a CA18DET? There are allot more of those about and probably cheaper to pick up as well.
 
I'd go for the SR20DET over the CA18DET... more aftermarket parts available... and it's a helluva strong engine.

Hmmm... The Toyota 20V engines are kinda appealing, and you can match them to a wide variety of drivetrains... but it's the same with the SR20... which you can do FWD, RWD or MR (AWD, maybe, but GTiR drivetrains are rare)... only issue is the questionable durability of the transmission and driveaxles of the SR...

The K20 looks like another Honda winner... terrific power, terrific potential... of course, they cost a hell of a lot compared to all of these older engines.
 
Race Idiot
What about a CA18DET? There are allot more of those about and probably cheaper to pick up as well.
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Sure, another good choice.
Personally I would prefer the GTi-R SR20DET but either is great (especially for the target output), not sure about UK but GTi-R SR20DET's are pretty easy to pick up here.
 
VIPERGTSR01
Most good engines for this project has been mentioned. How about a SR20DET from a GTi-R Sunny/Pulsar? (sorry if that particular engine has been mentioned) Good power, good response, great reliability if serviced properly.
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Too expensive. I had an SR20DE in my 200SX SE-R and it was happy revving all day long...I loved it. But let's face it, thanks to the drifting scene and crap like the fast and the furiously stupid the SR20DE(T) is just too expensive to pickup for a reasonable project if you are on a budget.

Race Idiot
What about a CA18DET? There are allot more of those about and probably cheaper to pick up as well.
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Indeed, but how about the KA24? Those would be the cheapest modern Nissan 4cyl engines. These are yanked out of the US spec 240SX (Silvia) for the SR20DET/CA18DET so you could infact save quite a deal of money. The only drawback is if you pickup the 12v you're limited to about 300~320bhp safely. The 16v is strong north of 300bhp, I'm not quite sure on it's limit though. Stock the 12v (KA24E) has 140bhp and 152lb.ft. of torque, and the 16v has 155bhp and 160lb.ft. of torque. Underpowered maybe for its displacement (in terms of Japanese power anyway--still beats GM V6's of that era), but because the price is so good you can spend more money on performance than you could if you dropped your $1700-3000 for an SR20DE.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ENGI...ryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

$350+shipping is not a bad deal at all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-N...ryZ33615QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

$299+shipping - and it has the trannsmission also.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ENGI...ryZ33615QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

$500+shipping for 100k mile engine
 
Other benefit to the KA24DE is, being a truck engine, is quite overbuilt. I have an article on junkyard turboing them as well, and you can get quite a bit of power out of them before having to upgrade the internals.

I would strongly recommend them over the SR20DE(T) simply because of cost issues. Of course, there is the SR20VE you could try to hunt down, but I am sure that costs too much to be budget class.

The Honda motors are all going to cost way more than they are really worth I feel, especially the K series. Only budget mill from them will be the D series junkyard turbo of glory I mentioned.
 
Sometimes truck engines make good forced induction engines due to being a more robust stronger engine design with stronger material in its construction. And the KA24 is an iron block--and iron > aluminum for serious forced induction boost...at least in my opinion.
 
Iron is better for nitrous/turbo applications not only because of it's strength, but also because of it's excellent heat absorbing qualities, leading to the reduction of hot spots and less detonation.

They also make good nitrous motors.

Oh yeah, get a Quad 4! :)
 
Thing about the KA24DE is the fact that we didn't get any, we got S13 chassis cars with the CA18DET (lots of these about) and S14 chassis with SR20DE's or SR20DET's. Pulsar/Sunny GTiR's aren't very common realy, so most SR20's are gonna come from an S14 more often than not.

Also D16? why bother with a D16 when there are plenty of B16's about anyway. Remember he lives in the uk, so there are some engines that are easier to get than in the us.
 
I had no idea that Europe didn't get the KA24 series. I guess that's good and bad? Well considering how cheap they are in the US on ebay you could theoretically have one shipped. No idea how much shipping overseas would cost however.
 
JCE3000GT
I had no idea that Europe didn't get the KA24 series. I guess that's good and bad? Well considering how cheap they are in the US on ebay you could theoretically have one shipped. No idea how much shipping overseas would cost however.
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I think shipping an engine from overseas would add a fair bit ontop realy. Seeing as the SR20 and the CA18 engines are readily available from uk spec cars and allot more aftermarket for those here than you would get with a KA24 anyway.
 
Race Idiot
Thing about the KA24DE is the fact that we didn't get any, we got S13 chassis cars with the CA18DET (lots of these about) and S14 chassis with SR20DE's or SR20DET's. Pulsar/Sunny GTiR's aren't very common realy, so most SR20's are gonna come from an S14 more often than not.
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Bingo, no KA24's here, so it's either a CA18 or SR20 if I go along that route. As for having one shipped in, no engines here = no need for parts here. Having to have every part I might need shipped in wouldn't be all that fun, even if a <&#163;250 engine sounds tempting.

The 3SGE is a possible choice, there are a couple of 3rd gen motors on ebay at the moment at reasonable prices, so I'll keep that one in mind.

The SR20DET would almost certainly be too expensive sadly, but the CA18DET could be a possibility. It has ample power output and plenty of aftermarket parts, but I'd need to find somewhere to put the intercooler.

I did take a look at a couple of Ford V6's as a slightly obscure choice, possibly a Duratec 25 or 30. I'll have to look into them a little more, but they seem to be pretty solid engines.

The Honda B series engines are possible choices, although I'm having some trouble finding prices for any. I'll keep hunting. :) The K-series engines are way out of my price range, so they're out.

AS far as I know we never got any GM Quad-4's over here, so I guess they're out aswell.

Thankyou to everybody who's replied so far, it's been a great help. 👍
 
The D25 Ford V6 is a decent engine. I'd definately go that route if you have the money.
 
If your looking for people selling engines maybe try the classifieds for that car/marques forum. You'll usually find people who are selling engines, or braking cars that you can buy an engine/transmission/wiring/ecu from.

Is that the Ford V6 that was used in the Mondeo/Contour?

I'd sell you my 3rd gen 3SGE if I was able to afford a rear clip from a revision 2/3 mr2 turbo. :grumpy:
 
As far as I know tha Duratec 25 was used in the 'jelly-mould' Mondeo/Contour (Sorry, I have an irrational hatred of the Mk1 Mondeo) and the Duratec 30 is used in the current Mondeo ST220, as well as a whole host of other cars.
 
The D25 was used in the Contour and when SVT got a hold of it they tuned it a bit and it was infact a decent powerplant. At least that is my opinion.
 
JCE3000GT
Too expensive. I had an SR20DE in my 200SX SE-R and it was happy revving all day long...I loved it. But let's face it, thanks to the drifting scene and crap like the fast and the furiously stupid the SR20DE(T) is just too expensive to pickup for a reasonable project if you are on a budget.
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Not here, SR20DET's are cheap and easy to get, but this thread is about UK market so I'm not sure but I knew they didn't get KA24's (like Australia).
 
Ebiggs
Any chance on finding a GM Ecotec?
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Which one?

...They sell so many different variations of the engine, many of which are and are not available in the US, so he would have to choose wisely...
 
Save yourself a whole host of nightmares and potential escalating hidden costs by keeping things simple. Keep it front engined and FWD, mid-engined on such a short wheel base will be no fun at all. The original BMC A-series engine has been so well develpoed over the years by Mini racers/tuners that there are plenty of options available.

A twin-cam head?
http://www.kad-uk.com/engine.htm

The Mini is such a small, well packaged car there's hardly any room to spare for things like a bigger engine, most modern twincams will be a stuggle to fit, let alone finding places for adequate cooling.
 
How about an air-cooled VW/Porsche, with the transaxle flipped so that it runs backwards...and thus forwards for an MR application.

Shouldn't be too hard to find a 1600 Dual Port somewhere, in a car that's rusting away...hell, they make all the parts, why not just build an all-new one yourself? vents in the rear windows for cooling, etc
 
TheCracker
Save yourself a whole host of nightmares and potential escalating hidden costs by keeping things simple. Keep it front engined and FWD, mid-engined on such a short wheel base will be no fun at all. The original BMC A-series engine has been so well develpoed over the years by Mini racers/tuners that there are plenty of options available.

A twin-cam head?
http://www.kad-uk.com/engine.htm

The Mini is such a small, well packaged car there's hardly any room to spare for things like a bigger engine, most modern twincams will be a stuggle to fit, let alone finding places for adequate cooling.
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Oh my god yes do this, 16v with webbers is so awesome.
 
You don't even have to go 16v with the original engine just get a 7 or 8 port head for much better breathing. 140+ bhp is not too much of a problem.
 
Milliethemutt
You don't even have to go 16v with the original engine just get a 7 or 8 port head for much better breathing. 140+ bhp is not too much of a problem.
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In the Metro, before they replaced the A-series engine with the K-series they made a MG Metro Turbo. There should be plenty around in scrap yards. Forced induction opens up plenty of tuning oppotunities.
 
What about Pug MI16? that could do the job as well, especially if it's the more powerful version.
 

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