Rental Cars in the UK?

Was 2001 the first year of the latest model? It looks newer than that but that would coincide with the end of the Contour/Mystique in our market.
 
Yep - although they were given a mild facelift in 2003.
 
The Mondeo's a nice-looking car. I wish we still got it, but Ford could hardly bring themselves to drag it on for five years - they would've cancelled it sooner, but they weren't about to give up all the praise and publicity that came with it; it was a new thing to Ford then.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
The Ford Mondeo was sold in the US as the Ford Contour and Mercury Mystique (which replaced the Ford Tempo and Mercury Topaz) beginning in 1995. Despite rave reviews from magazines, a good 170-horsepower 2.5L V6 (though a four-cylinder was standard), decent styling, fairly decent spec, and, in later years, a high-performance "SVT Contour" which got 195-horsepower, the cars never sold and were cancelled in 2000. Currently, the Ford Focus occupies that segment in our market.


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Do you get any Renault or Alfa models there M5?
 
Originally posted by M5Power
And British - remember, we get Land Rover/Range Rover and Jaguar, and there have been plans to bring MG back, though I'd bet your life it won't happen anytime in the near future.

Yeah, when MG stop using a 10 year old honda chassis for most of their cars.
 
Originally posted by TsLeng
Rome.hmmm...SCOOTERs!!!!!!

Okay, just joking. If you want something different, Alfa 156.

No alfas in the US.

If you go for an Alfa (and I would) one thing to watch out for.

The steering rack on them is very fast, 2.1 turns lock to lock. Compare that to an average of 2.5 for most cars and you have approx 750 degree Vs. 900 degree.

It a big change and has been know to catch a lot of first time Alfa drivers out.

I had a Lusso Red 33 T.Spark cloverleaf a few years back and it was a wonderful drivers car, unreliable as hell, but god was it fun to drive.

BTW Mike - No Alfas or Renaults in the US for a long time. Alfa keep looking at the US. Renault have no plans for the US directly, but some models may make it in badged as Nissans.
 

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Originally posted by Race Idiot
Yeah, they'd probably make great autocross cars.

If only there was Autocross in England. :grumpy:

Race Idiot, I think you will find that Autotest is the UK equivelent to Autocross.

Have a look at the following site and do a google for Autotest.

http://www.aswmc.org.uk/autotest.htm

Its great fun and yes the Clio 172 is a very popular car for it.
 
I remember knowing someone who had a Renault when I was a little kid. I mean really little, sometime in the 80s.

Anyway, Alfas have been gone from the US for quite a while. If I remember correctly, there was a time where Alfa was faced with a decision: Spend the money necessary to update all their designs to meet US standards, or stop selling their cars over here. They never had sold that many cars here in the first place, and decided that leaving the US would be more profitable than making their cars emissions-compliant.

By the way, what is the driving age in Italy anyway? I'd like to know if I'llbe able to drive there at all, or will be restricted to the passenger seat.
 
Originally posted by Scaff
Race Idiot, I think you will find that Autotest is the UK equivelent to Autocross.

Have a look at the following site and do a google for Autotest.

http://www.aswmc.org.uk/autotest.htm

Its great fun and yes the Clio 172 is a very popular car for it.

Hey, thanks for the link. I've been looking for something like that for a while. Trust it to be called something different. I think it might be fun in my little polo. :D
 
I believe the legal driving age is 18 in most of Europe. However, I've heard that American citizens age 16 and above and with a legal driver's license are allowed to drive. That is a rumour however, hopefully police will probably just give you a correction and a warning if you get caught - they're humans after all (and in Italy police are known to stop exotic cars just to admire at them;) )

Oh, and if your parents/you are renting a car with a manual gearbox, make sure you know how to control it properly. There have been several event here up north were Americans used to automatic trannies have rented car with manual trannies, and ended up causing havoc because they couldn't control the car properly (like pressing the clutch instead of the brake - a common problem). Getting a car with changers behind the wheel/tiptronic shouldn't be a problem however.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Giles recommends the Citroen Picasso. His reviews have included things like "flawless ergonomics", "perfect inside and out", "brilliant and sexy", "brilliant design", "excellent handling", and "wonderful ride." He'd buy one himself but he hasn't got a family yet.

Doug is on drugs.

The Citroen Picasso is a worthless heap of nonsense. I wouldn't pee on it if it was on fire.
 
Originally posted by Freddie
Oh, and if your parents/you are renting a car with a manual gearbox, make sure you know how to control it properly. There have been several event here up north were Americans used to automatic trannies have rented car with manual trannies, and ended up causing havoc because they couldn't control the car properly (like pressing the clutch instead of the brake - a common problem).
Now Americans are too stupid to know how to drive a manual transmission? I'm surprised we manage to actually get up and go to work every morning without blundering to our deaths...
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Sheesh.
 
Hmm, that's an interesting issue. Both of my parents can drive a manual fine, but It's been ages since I had a manual. However, I drove my fiend's FC3s for a while a few weeks ago and did OK, except for one steep hill where I had to stop at a stop sign mid way up. (And now I know I can use the e-brake to help with situations like that)...

Besides, I just came back from my Mechanic, my car will be a manual within the next few weeks!
 
Originally posted by Mike Rotch
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Do you get any Renault or Alfa models there M5?

Renault left the United States in 1989. Their final vehicle was known as the Renault Premier:

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The Premier was basically absorbed by Chrysler in 1989 and was sold as the Eagle Premier from 1989 to 1992 and the Dodge Monaco from 1990 to 1992. Only idiots bought these cars - looking back today, they're utterly trash. If you're looking to buy a cheap, cheap, cheap used car and can find one that runs, you're probably looking at $50-$500 for a Premier or a Monaco (I don't usually inject opinions into rants about obscure used cars, but in this case it's more than deserved).

The Premier/Monaco were effectively replaced in 1993 by the Eagle Vision and Dodge Intrepid, the latter of which, though redesigned in 1998, still exists (and the former of which still exists in spirit as the Chrysler Concorde). So technically, though Renault is gone, their legacy lives on. It's difficult to find a used Renault today in any shape, and even if you do, there's no support network, so owners have basically no chance.

Had Renault managed to stick around this long, they probably would've gone out during the "French boycott" since they depend on volume sales of high-priced objects. For context, there was a minor call for a boycott of Nissan because of their ties to Renault.

Alfa's a different story - their final product in the United States died in 1995 as the 164 (the Sentinel and Sentinel XS in Grand Theft Auto 3 are styled after it). It was, in my opinion, a decent BMW 3-series competitor and though that was a widely-held opinion Alfa couldn't really penetrate the market and got out. Today, Alfa 164s aren't hard to find - any big city has a few in the classified pages and Autotrader always turns up a couple of pages of them. Their only service comes at a Ferrari dealer, though, so labor's expensive (but available).
 
Get a Renaultsport Clio V6. Two in the front and one lying the engine cover. You know it makes sense!
 
Originally posted by Freddie
I believe the legal driving age is 18 in most of Europe.

In the UK you are allowed a moped on learner plates at 16, a provisional driving licence (allowing you to drive as long as you are accompanied by someone over 21 who has had a full licence for over 3 years) at 17, and a full driving licence at 17 after you've passed a written theory test and the driving test.
 
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