Robocop Remake - 2014

[CodeRedR51]

Is there a thread for this already? Did a search, got nothing.

Anyway - First trailer.

 

[Terronium-12]

My problems with the remake could go on for days, alas I'll go see it anyway.

I sincerely doubt it'll have the charm of the original but I'm opened to being pleasantly surprised.

 

[Tornado]

Needs more LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW.





The joke is that it looks more like a Judge Dredd film than a Robocop one.

 

[Terronium-12]

I think you mean Iron Man.

*Points to drop-down visor*

 

[Wiegert]

The joke is that it looks more like a Judge Dredd film than a Robocop one.

The brilliantly bad one? Or the Gritty 3D one with 80% less "LAAAAAAAAAAAAW"?

I think you mean Iron Man.

*Points to drop-down visor*

No, no. It's RaidenCop. They just discarded his ninja abilities and gave him a new bike.

 

[Terronium-12]

Except Raiden's visor folds over his face.

Unless you mean the entire package. In which case, no arguments from me.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

Drop down visor is one thing, but the human hand? Why?? Of all things you think they would want robotic.

 

[Terronium-12]

It was something brought up in the original as well, however, now the deal is full-body prosthesis wasn't performed to maintain a human element so he can shake hands.

I kid you not.

 

[eXtaticus]

Somebody fused Dredd '95 to Iron Man to Robocop to Terminator.

This... This is going to be awesome.

 

[Ardius]

The real trailer:





Also, a car bomb is the lamest possible idea they could have had to replace the Murphy-execution scene.

 

[Wiegert]

Not-so-subtle use of the Terminator theme automatically makes it better.

Also, a car bomb is the lamest possible idea they could have had to replace the Murphy-execution scene.

Even if they copied the original "death" scene to the very last detail, I probably wouldn't have had as much on an issue with it compared to a car bomb detonating in his own driveway. At least it seemed more heroic to go out in the line of duty than for his car to be allegedly rigged like that for some currently unknown reason.

 

[Kent]

They already lost the battle with this one...

By using a car explosion they are killing off one of the most epic violent scenes in a sci-fi movie- EVAR!

Part of what made the first Robocop such an awesome and memorable movie was the insane gratuitous violence. De-limbing Alex Murphy was just the start of a childhood scar I still rub every time I think of a man soaked in toxic waste being hit by a car and exploding into a mash of rotten flesh.

Simply put, this movie should never have been re-made.

 

[Ardius]

Its an interesting example of how trailers have changed these days - the old trailer showed glimpses of how Murphy ends up as Robocop but doesn't spell it out or make it particularly obvious. The old trailer basically just makes it clear that its a science-fiction based action film with a terminator-tone. It's a taster of what the film is and lets people work out if its something they might be interested in...without giving away the entire film (particularly the comedy/satire elements).

Whereas the new trailer literally spells out Robocop's character, how he ended up as Robocop and even shows a fair bit of his relationship with his family. They also don't show if there is any comedy/satire..but I'm not sure whether this is indicative of whether there will or won't be any. Like many trailers these days, this one just shows far too much of the plot and characters. In my opinion, a trailer should only give us a taste, an idea of whether we want to see the film. It shouldn't be a summary of the entire film.

Things that were shown in the new trailer that shouldn't have been:
-Murphy-almost death scene
-Murphy's confusion/surprise at working out he's a machine
-Murphy's struggle with his family
-ED-209
-Explanation that OCP have control over him (only suggested at in the 80s trailer)
-Revealing Murphy overrides OCP's control over him

I understand why they cut trailers like this these days, they're trying to appeal to wider audiences by giving a bit more character - the old trailer is very simple - Robocop, explosions, bad guys. The new trailer is more complex, referring to the human vs. machine element, the emotional side, etc.

I just feel that they can still show or suggest these things without having to spell it all out in a trailer. Maybe everyone just doesn't pay huge attention to trailers anymore.

 

[dhandeh]

At the end of the day, no matter how good/bad this remake is, we will still have the original. I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

[ussr]

It's real challenge to shoot a remake. Total Recall was a real blast even without planet mars and Arnold in it, so i strongly believe that Robo-Cop will up to a challenge.

 

[Tornado]

Its an interesting example of how trailers have changed these days - the old trailer showed glimpses of how Murphy ends up as Robocop but doesn't spell it out or make it particularly obvious. The old trailer basically just makes it clear that its a science-fiction based action film with a terminator-tone. It's a taster of what the film is and lets people work out if its something they might be interested in...without giving away the entire film (particularly the comedy/satire elements).

Whereas the new trailer literally spells out Robocop's character, how he ended up as Robocop and even shows a fair bit of his relationship with his family. They also don't show if there is any comedy/satire..but I'm not sure whether this is indicative of whether there will or won't be any. Like many trailers these days, this one just shows far too much of the plot and characters. In my opinion, a trailer should only give us a taste, an idea of whether we want to see the film. It shouldn't be a summary of the entire film.

Things that were shown in the new trailer that shouldn't have been:
-Murphy-almost death scene
-Murphy's confusion/surprise at working out he's a machine
-Murphy's struggle with his family
-ED-209
-Explanation that OCP have control over him (only suggested at in the 80s trailer)
-Revealing Murphy overrides OCP's control over him

I understand why they cut trailers like this these days, they're trying to appeal to wider audiences by giving a bit more character - the old trailer is very simple - Robocop, explosions, bad guys. The new trailer is more complex, referring to the human vs. machine element, the emotional side, etc.

I just feel that they can still show or suggest these things without having to spell it all out in a trailer. Maybe everyone just doesn't pay huge attention to trailers anymore.

I think one thing that needs to be taken into account is that the remake is covering familiar ground by very nature of being a remake, so the trailer being shot more like the original would be a moot point since people would already be expecting to see most of those plot points anyway. Not that "well, we might as well not bother hiding things" is a particularly hopeful attitude, but I can at least see where they were coming from when putting it together. It also means that they can defy expectations better, since if they put real thought into making a worthwhile movie they can subvert where people think the things in the trailer will happen if nothing else.

It's real challenge to shoot a remake. Total Recall was a real blast even without planet mars and Arnold in it, so i strongly believe that Robo-Cop will up to a challenge.

Probably the second worst possible example in recent memory.

 

[Ardius]

I think one thing that needs to be taken into account is that the remake is covering familiar ground by very nature of being a remake, so the trailer being shot more like the original would be a moot point since people would already be expecting to see most of those plot points anyway. Not that "well, we might as well not bother hiding things" is a particularly hopeful attitude, but I can at least see where they were coming from when putting it together. It also means that they can defy expectations better, since if they put real thought into making a worthwhile movie they can subvert where people think the things in the trailer will happen if nothing else.

Yeah I accept the fact that its going to have to do things differently, my comment was more using this as an example of the different styles in trailers. I feel too many films give too much away in trailers these days. Even if you approach the Robocop trailer assuming you've seen the old one, you still get shown and told too much for what is effectively meant to be something that grabs your interest - not summarises.

I think we've seen enough remakes and sequels lately to sadly expect them not to "defy expectations" though. I'm still going to go see this, but I'm not expecting it to be great. Surely that should make it very easy to defy my expectations.

 

[dhandeh]

I'm not impressed with the stealth look. It looks cheap, and as for the exposed hand, words fail me.

 

[Famine]

Part of what made the first Robocop such an awesome and memorable movie was the insane gratuitous violence. De-limbing Alex Murphy was just the start of a childhood scar I still rub every time I think of a man soaked in toxic waste being hit by a car and exploding into a mash of rotten flesh.

I have nothing to add except the word "melting".

Probably the second worst possible example in recent memory.

I didn't turn Total Recall off, though I did stop paying attention to it.

Conan the Barbarian, on the other hand...

 

[Tornado]

Oh, Conan. Right. 3rd worst, then.


The Footloose one was pretty good, though.

 

[Terronium-12]

If at any point during the movie there's no death-defying confrontation with ED-209 I will scoff at the film. If at any point during the movie no one says "State of the art, bang bang" I will scoff at the movie.

If at any point during the movie Robo teams up with ED-209 I will get up and leave the theater.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Guys you've all missed the point, any movie with Sam Jackson is an insta-classic.

 

[terminator363]

 

[Kent]

In my opinion, the best "remake" of any older Sci-Fi film in recent years was easily "Dredd" with Keith Urban. 👍 👍

Famine,
Melting.

Oh and create your own meme as long as it ends with Red Forman shooting off all your limbs...

 

[Wiegert]

The first 'RoboCop' poster lacks a certain... potent edge. Even if it's a single word.

 

[Terronium-12]

Creep isn't PG-13.

In any case, I saw that on IGN the other day and instantly wondered why they just didn't stick with the "Part Man. Part Machine. All Cop" tagline.

 

[Tornado]

Wait a minute. They're going all Robocop 3 on it?

 

[Dave A]

It's real challenge to shoot a remake. Total Recall was a real blast even without planet mars and Arnold in it, so i strongly believe that Robo-Cop will up to a challenge.

I thought the Total Recall remake was terrible, poorly scripted, poorly paced and had no charm of the original.

 

[Chad Daddy]

You know, I don't think this remake is going to be so bad. In the trailers when it looks like Murphy was critcally injured it could be a red herring. The cast for this film is great. I doubt the actor portraying RoboCop in this reboot will be nearly as good as Peter Weller, however I think he will be great nontheless. On the other hand, it's a bit sad that the comic book violence from the original is absent in the reboot. However, if the dude who said "I'd buy that for a dollar!" returns then I'll be very happy.

 

[Sting]

Each trailer, for me personally, seems to get better and better. Sure there will always be comparisons to the original and let's be honest this probably won't beat the job that Verhoeven, Weller and co did, heck even the soundtrack was pretty awesome by the late Basil Poledouris.

However, if there wasn't an 'original' Robocop, I think this is looking like a solid film for the idea of a cyborg cop. Yeah, the exposed hand is a little weird and the tactical black look just doesn't feel right after the original but I have a hope for that. The trailers seem to give away that Murphy fights his programming, so I'm expecting him to change from black to the silver, which he'll then keep should any sequels be made.