Rossi in red in 2007

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Hello,

to tell you the truth, I can't wait that Valentino Rossi retire from the Moto GP to see him in F1 BUT.. what about his pace?

This thread is destinated to figure out :

1) if a Moto GP/Superbike/.. ace could convert himself in Autoracing
2) if Valentino Rossi does not risk to loose his "supremacy" in F1

To answer those questions, I think that some famous drivers did it in the past. I am thinking of John Surtees, but also Mike Thackwell, Didier de Radiguès (Belgian famous FIA GT racer) and many more. So it's feasable. In addition to that, I think switching from 2 to 4 wheels is a lot easier than the opposite.

Valentino Rossi risks indeed to loose his supremacy due to the fact that in Moto GP a driver can make the difference, which is less and less the case in F1. Just look at Shuey. He can't beat Alonso or Räikonnen due to tyre and other problems. That's why I am afraid Vale going to Ferrari. He has lapped wery quickly last week at Fiorano, but still remained far from Shuey and even Badoer's time, so....

I am still sure that Valentino Rossi could bring some decisive excitement and drama in Formula 1...and face the thruth : F1 really needs him !

Forza !

Henry
 
An Italian in a Ferrari? Not likely, he'd crack under the pressure of the Italian specialist media.

As much as we'd all like to see that happen one day, it's just a fairy tale for now.
 
pupik
As much as we'd all like to see that happen one day, it's just a fairy tale for now.
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Indeed.

I note that all of the cited examples are from the dim-and-distant. I'm not sure that it's possible any more. Each discipline is so specialised that I don't think you can migrate from one to the other and be equally successful.

Well, unless you're universally rubbish. Should be possible to maintain that level of form.
 
Rossi could totally do it in my mind, he's just got a brilliant feel for machines on the edge... he's a natural...

He's had a go in Schuey's Ferrari last year I think, and pulled a lap only about a sec or so slower than Shuey (on his first go!!), made everyone go "What the?! I thought you were only supposed to have a cruise around for fun as a cross promotional exercise...".

Rossi is a genius (at racing, not IQ). I think his talent could easily extend to any form of motor racing. Apparently he's a really good rally driver also. The only reason he's with yamaha is to purposely make it harder for himself to win, as a challenge. He wouldn't think about whether he would loose any supposed 'superiority' or not, he just loves racing and having new challenges. He would lap up (sorry) any F1 oppurtunity I think. After some more years of MotoGP though, I think he's got Mick Doohan's record in his sights... (most championship wins in a row). Maybe after that, there would be nothing else to prove in MotoGP...

Rossi got told off by his team for slowing down on the straights to let his opponents pass him just so he could race them for gods sake! This guy would be fantastic to see in the clinical world of F1... I only worry about his English speaking skills, I think its more important for F1 drivers to be understood more clearly.

Rossi: "YA DA BIK GO VERY VERY FAST I WIN IS AMAZING I RIDE VERY WELL DA BIK GO NO FASTER BUT WAS ENOUGH FOR ME TO PASS ON LAST CORNER SO I WIN IS GLORIOUS!"

Personally I find Rossi entertaining as hell, especially his after win theatrics!! I never used to watch the MotoGP races before, but now every race is close and exciting - on the edge racing... I believe he could bring that same competitive spirit and excitement to F1 if given the oppurtunity. :)
 
Ah back to GTP haven't been around for a while.

Rossi in a Ferrari would be great, give him a chance, but how do we know Ferrari would still be in red?
 
katana87
Ah back to GTP haven't been around for a while.

Rossi in a Ferrari would be great, give him a chance, but how do we know Ferrari would still be in red?
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Do you mean red as in their paint color? I believe the actual paint color name IS Ferrari Red. They will always be red. Always have been, always will be. Racing is what Ferrari is all about. The street cars only support their racing venues. Period.

I'm a huge fan of Rossi and would actually hate to see him leave MotoGP. He's a kick in the pants to watch and listen to as he has a huge sense of humor. Something lacking in F1, other than Ruben Barrichello's sense of humor. Can you see Rossi show up to his F1 race in his bright red Ferrari with Austin Powers font all over the car, as he did in the final race of 2003 in MotoGP? It was freaking hilarious! :crazy:
 
Personally, I think that if he's going to switch to cars, he should go into a lower class to start with (maybe not even single seaters). Obviously the guy's a great natural talent (very Senna-esque), but I just don't think he could cut it in F1. I think that if he went straight into the F1 Ferrari, he'd be very much like Ralf Schumacher was when he started in F1; spins all over the place, crashes and generally not that quick. Yes, he did test the Ferrari F1 last year and was only about a second slower than Schumacher's lap record (although he did beat the test driver, Luca Badoer, on the day), but pace when you're alone on a test track doesn't necessarily equate to pace in a Grand Prix, especially with the Italian media on your back (as has already been mentioned).

Perhaps in a few years... :D
 
If schumy dont retire in '07 (would surpise me if he doesnt) then Massa will have somin to say about Rossi joining them.

I dont think it will happen to be honest
 
Damon Hill went from bikes to cars, but he had to start from F3 when he did so.

Rossi did enter the Rally GB a few years back, and crashed on Stage 2. He was also 3 seconds slower than Schumacher's record time at Fiorano the other week.

Would he be allowed a license to race in F1? I thought you needed a season's worth experience in F3000, GP2 or F3 to qualify for one. Raikkonen had trouble when he started in 2001 because he didn't have that experience.
 
How old is Rossi?

Time might be against him if he does need experience in the feeder championships
 
Hmmmmm he could get a couple of years in F1 if he moves over to GP2 very very quickly
 
Rossi is a savant. He has so much raw talent it is silly. There is no doubt in my mind that he could leave MotoGP and enter F1 and immediately be competitive, maybe not dominant like he is in MotoGP but within the top 5 drivers. Within a year or two I expect him to be dominating just like he does in MotoGP.

I think Rossi is the only one who could do this. Ever watch a MotoGP race...you will see why.
 
Hello,

most of you have already seen Moto GP races, which I am sure wouldn't have been the case some years ago. Rossi helped a lot Moto GP to become a real show, thanks to his raw talent of course but also his post race shows !

Have you already seen when he wore a doctor jacket with a stethoscope? He began to touch his machine as if she was ill, and suddenly burned the rear tire? Just Incredible ! I have never ever seen this in F1.

For these reasons, I think that Rossi deserves F1 on a raw talent basis (even driving for Ferrari, think of it) but he'll be bored after a short period of time. In addition to that, and I repeat it, the driver can make the difference on a bike, much less in F1.

So, is it reasonable to hope Rossi to drive F1 cars and finding immediately his pace and being able still to play the Mystic Doctor? Sure it's not, but I can't stop thinking of it !

Henry
 
Rossi standing up on his bike after taking the chequered flag and playing an invisible violin was also a classic moment!

For some reason I can't see Ferrari letting him paint "THE DOCTOR" in multicoloured letters on his Ferrari and racing suit... :sly:

But I can imagine Rossi doing a victory lap standing right on top of his Ferrari controlling the throttle and steering with a couple of brooms (and gaffa tape)! Or sitting on the front (one foot on each side of the front wing) and manually controlling the steering struts with his hands...

I'm not really sure Rossi's character would go down too easily among the Ferrari big-wigs...
F1 is WAY too dull these days...
 
In his most recent 2 day "testing" session at Fiorano, Vale was more than 3 seconds off Schumacher's lap records.

And as for the pressure from the Italian media there's no doubt it'll be a lot more intense than what he's used to but everywhere in the world but North America (it seems) GP and Superbike racing is wildly popular. They routinely get 150,000 - 200,000 out to the track.
 
Rossi did some follow up testing recently (2 full days). He's faster than drivers that typically come from the feeder class into F1, and he qualifies as having enough experience to race in F1 (over 300kms travelled in testing).

http://www.crash.net/uk/en/news_view.asp?cid=6&nid=116659

I can see a definate plan here where Rossi may get into a Ferrari testing job after 2006, and then F1 racing proper... I can see him being the secondary driver for Ferrari in his first year of racing, and then possibly even take the number one spot...:)
 
Michael earns ~40 million US from Ferrari and another 40 million US in endorsements every year. He is the second highest paid athlete (incl. endorsements) in the world, and the highest paid without endorsements.
 
According to the August issue of F1 racing, driver's salaries are as follows (in USD);

MS $35million (+ another $40 in endorsements and such)
Ralf S $25million (scary what a last name gets ya.)
Kimi $22million (Plus $1mill per victory capped at 2)
JPM $15million (Plus $1mill per victory capped at 2)
Trulli $10million
Rubens $10million
Fisi $9million
Alonso $9million
Button $8million
Webber $4million
Massa $2.5million
Wurz $2.5million
Sato $2million
JV $2million
DC $1.5million (plus points bonuses)
Heidfeld $1million
de la Rosa $500,000

The rest are between $350,000 and $0


Consider that any team that would try to get BOTH Kimi and Alonso together would be intentionaly creating a super-team. Therefore I bet both managers would try to get as much for their dirvers as they could. I would expect a $60-70million COMBINED for Kimi/Alonso to not be out of the ballpark.

What team would pay that?
 
I team that have endless money, I.E. Ferrari or Toyota (although i wouldnt know y they would wanna join the latter.)

And boy is Hiedfeld cheap willaims have a nice buy there..
 

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