RTST Trials @ the Nürburgring

[Diego440]

If you want 3 P1 positions simply by eliminating my times, so be it. It's your thread. You just might want to add that the rules are subject to change at the whim of the thread starter.

That wouldn't be fair. And all I'm trying to enforce here is fairness.

If you choose to change the rules, so be it. If so, good luck with this thread. I'm guessing it will go nowhere.

The funny thing is that the thread has been running since August without any problems, save for lack of posting, but that's something I have no control over. No one has complained or had any problems regarding the rules of the competition except for you. And the moment you did have an apparent problem with the understanding of them I cleared them in the best way I could and even cleared it up in the first post.

Seems like it would be alot easier to admit that you're wrong, & open the thread to a little creativity.

I think you understood things like you wanted to. My explaining of them to Wally may seem a bit off, but he was asking about a non-power mod and I answered his question regarding non-power mods. Had he asked about adding or not additional power, I would've said no.

As for opening it to a little creativity, keep in mind this isn't my website. Everyone can open a thread and add times to it as they see fit. You're more than welcome to open your own and add your own set of rules and have other people add in times as they want to.

In fact, there was a time when GTP had a leaderboard. In that leaderboard you could put your best times and had to list every mod, so you could avoid some, avoid all, put everything into it or do whatever you pleased. And frankly, there was hardly any equality in it.

What's the challenge of doing a hotlap in a car with a certain tuning availability if a moment later you're going to submit a time done with almost the exact list except for a 10 kgs. ballast increase? The result would be a leaderboard with about 10 million times due to too many combinations available.

I'm trying to put a set of rules that have a certain degree of freedom. The rules and settings are in the first post.

FWIW, I also have P1 times for 3.000-3.999 & 4.000-4.999 in the bag that I haven't bothered posting, knowing that you would be butt hurt.
And a P3 time for 1.000-2.999 in the Cadillac Cien with all the mods.

That's great man. If you want to, you may post them, unless of course you have no proof of them or are only later going to make a post saying how you put this and that mod in it and later avoided others.


If you're upset because I took down your P1 times, then go by the rules, try harder and you'll find out your times are much better than mine. I rarely run more than 3 laps on each car. The problem is the Trials have restrictions; and restrictions are never popular with anyone, on the web or off.

 

[DJ Baker]

I don't have a problem with rules. I read the entire thread & acted accordingly. In post 30 Wally CLEARLY asks about power mods, & in post 31 you CLEARLY replied about power mods. The fact that you continue to choose to ignore that & changed the rules is what I have a problem with. Like I said though, it's your thread & I wish you well with it. I just happen to believe that you've ruined a good thing.

 

[Diego440]

7'01.650 - -Diego- - FPV GT '04 - 481hp/1606kg
7'01.741 - -Diego- - Amuse S2000 R1 '04 - 304hp/1019kg
7'08.499 - -Diego- - Subaru Impreza Sport Wagon STI '00 - 395hp/1301kg
7'09.906 - -Diego- - Subaru Impreza WRX STI Version VI '99 - 367hp/1155g
7'12.294 - -Diego- - Nissan 300ZX 2by2 '98 - 371hp/1390kg
7'12.407 - -Diego- - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR '98 - 398hp/1237kg
7'16.282 - -Diego- - Honda S2000 '01 - 297hp/1165kg
7'16.775 - -Diego- - Nissan Silvia Spec R Aero '99 - 311hp/1165kg
7'30.147 - -Diego- - Mitsubishi Legnum VR-4 '98 - 368hp/1364kg
7'39.045 - -Diego- - Acura RSX Type S '04 - 252hp/1142kg
7'58.065 - -Diego- - Mazda MX-5 SR-Limited '97 - 179hp/950kg
8'03.823 - -Diego- - Toyota Corolla Levin BZ-R '98 - 215hp/1015kg
8'17.624 - -Diego- - Fiat Barchetta '00 - 165hp/1024kg

 

[Diego440]

6'51.750 - -Diego- - TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 - 448hp/1034kg
6'55.424 - -Diego- - RUF CTR2 '96 - 548hp/1255kg
6'57.000 - -Diego- - Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C '04 - 403hp/1246kg
7'23.756 - -Diego- - Subaru Legacy B4 RSK '98 - 357hp/1310kg
7'28.847 - -Diego- - Nissan Stagea 260RS Autech Version '98 - 382hp/1513kg
7'38.054 - -Diego- - Vauxhall VX220 '00 - 186hp/824kg
7'51.463 - -Diego- - Nissan Silvia Spec S Aero '99 - 202hp/1128kg
7'54.059 - -Diego- - Volkswagen Bora 4Motion '01 - 256hp/1355kg
7'58.624 - -Diego- - Mazda MX-5 VR Limited '95 - 179hp/950kg
8'07.432 - -Diego- - Peugeot 307 XSi '04 - 181hp/1146kg
8'41.969 - -Diego- - Mazda Demio '99 - 128hp/931kg
8'42.787 - -Diego- - Nissan Micra '03 - 120hp/873kg
9'15.739 - -Diego- - Toyota Yaris F '99 - 88hp/795kg
9'16.957 - -Diego- - Daihatsu Sirion CX 2WD '98 - 85hp/814kg
9'43.624 - -Diego- - Suzuki Alto Lapin Turbo '02 - 85hp/814kg

 

[Thirdeye]

Someone's been busy this holiday

 

[Fluke]

Im gunning for your 7'46 in my RENAULT 5 TURBO '86 Diego!

I went out on my first lap and layed down an early 8'xx.xxx but i span twice! Thats one hard car to keep control of at high speeds, even with the R3's!

 

[Diego440]

Yup... rear end seems to have a mind of its own. Good luck 👍

 

[amemyarz]

I think I'll have a go at this. Been wanting a reason to put down ToCA and Guitar Hero

 

[Diego440]

there is always a reason to put down Guitar Hero

 

[Fluke]

7'47.294 - Fluke - ford FOCUS RS '02 - 283bhp/987kg

*updated time* shaved off about 3 seconds, i highly recommend this to any who wants a wild ride, its a FF that oversteers more than most RWD cars!

p.s thank god im not the only one who hates guitar hero!

p.p.s diego, i gave up on the R5 i just couldnt get down a clean lap, after 7 tries i sold it!

 

[amemyarz]

hey it's a pretty entertaining game
well after a lot of GT today I got all of these:

7'35.536 - amemyarz - Lotus Elise Type 72 '01 - 164hp/733kg p/w-4.468
7'00.034 - amemyarz - MB E55 AMG '02 - 550hp/1679kg p/w-3.054
7'08.931 - amemyarz - Lotus Elise Sport 190 '98 - 215hp/649kg p/w-3.020
6'26.094 - amemyarz - MB SLR Mclaren '03 - 710hp/1555kg p/w-2.191
6'56.764 - amemyarz - Lotus Carlton '90 - 428hp/1456kg p/w-3.403
6'09.092 - amemyarz - Cadillac Cien '02 - 878hp/1319kg p/w-1.502
6'58.077 - amemyarz - DMC Delorean '04 - 355hp/1173kg p/w-3.304
6'46.991 - amemyarz - TVR Griffith 500 '94 - 408hp/996kg p/w-2.441
6'44.304 - amemyarz - BMW M5 '05 - 582hp/1509kg
p/w-2.592
9'37.042 - amemyarz - Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92 - 77hp/697kg p/w-9.047
10'16.334 - amemyarz - Daihatsu Midget ll D-type '98 - 50hp/546kg p/w-10.935
8'54.672 - amemyarz - Volvo 240 GLT Estate '88 - 161hp/1659kg p/w-10.308
6'46.295 - amemyarz - Shelby Series 1 Supercharged - 396hp/1128kg p/w-2.849
6'48.079 - amemyarz - Lotus Esprit V8 '02 - 429hp/1254 p/w-2.924
7'01.042 - amemyarz - RUF CTR Yellow Bird '87 - 493hp/1151kg p/w-2.335
6'24.368 - amemyarz - Tommykaira ZZll '00 - 578hp/1000kg p/w-1.729
6'35.288 - amemyarz - Nissan GTR Concept(Tokyoshow) '01 - 537hp/1372kg p/w-2.555
6'56.037 - amemyarz - Toyota Supra RZ '97 - 380hp/1328kg p/w-3.494

TCS on all of them. I couldn't get the coding to work for me

 

[Diego440]

You're supposed to eliminate the spaces in the first post... I'll fix these for you, but you have to do it for the next ones.

 

[VEXD]

Bossy!

C'mon man, you'll have no-one posting in here soon if you dont stop picking on the entrants.....

I might have to start posting times again...... and where will that get us....

👍

 

[amemyarz]

ok thanks. no new times yet. been busy

 

[Diego440]

6'41.795 - -Diego- - Dodge Viper SRT-10 '03 - 586hp/1349kg
6'50.062 - -Diego- - Mercedes Benz SL600 '04 - 623hp/1782kg
6'50.622 - -Diego- - BMW M3 CSL '03 - 412hp/1260kg
7'05.897 - -Diego- - Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 '90 - 458hp/1408kg
7'19.984 - -Diego- - Mugen S2000 '00 - 299hp/1165kg
7'32.266 - -Diego- - Lexus IS200 (J) '98 - 259hp/1219kg
7'32.431 - -Diego- - Lotus Elise 111S '03 - 195hp/781kg
7'32.799 - -Diego- - Ford Focus RS '02 - 294hp/987kg
7'35.163 - -Diego- - Mazda RX-8 Type E '03 - 264hp/1210kg
8'02.253 - -Diego- - Citroën Xantia '00 - 238hp/1361kg
8'03.007 - -Diego- - Alfa Romeo 147 '02 - 192hp/1164kg
8'24.511 - -Diego- - Fiat Punto HGT Abarth '00 - 164hp/1034kg
8'24.577 - -Diego- - Honda Odyssey '03 - 202hp/1496kg
8'46.071 - -Diego- - Audi A2 '02 - 105hp/892kg
8'57.400 - -Diego- - Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02 - 85hp/805kg

 

[Vtec Inside]

7'11.901-Vtec Inside-Honda S2000 Type V '03-297hp/1155kg
7'47.776-Vtec Inside-Honda Accord Euro-R '02-264hp/1264kg
8'22.441-Vtec Inside-Honda Odyssey '03-202hp/1496kg

 

[Diego440]

Thanks VTEC Inside 👍

Leaderboard updated

 

[Vtec Inside]

Your welcome Diego. Can I post a new time for my Accord Euro-R, I just beat my old time today? It's o.k. anyways if I can't do that. Great thread you got here, I will continue to post times for hondas, Acuras and other vehicles.👍

 

[Diego440]

Indeed you can. Just make sure you put UPDATED at the end of it. I think I mentioned something about it in the first post.

I'll be posting some new times over the weekend as well.

 

[Vtec Inside]

7'10.041-Vtec Inside-Honda S2000 '04-297hp/1127kg
7'33.816-Vtec Inside-Honda Integra Type R '03-269hp/1099kg
7'38.485-Vtec Inside-Honda Civic Type R '04-260hp/1118kg
7'42.221-Vtec Inside-Honda Accord Euro R '03-264hp/1264kg UPDATED

Some new Honda times. I will add more times later for other makes and models. Any other Honda enthusiasts on this board?

 

[Diego440]

6'43.088 - -Diego- - Pagani Zonda S 7.3 '02 - 679hp/1250kg
6'52.579 - -Diego- - TVR T350C '03 - 418hp/1115kg
6'54.748 - -Diego- - RUF RGT '00 - 416hp/1210kg
7'02.188 - -Diego- - Nissan Skyline GT-R M-Spec '01 - 417hp/1372kg
7'39.784 - -Diego- - TRD Modellista Celica Sports M '00 - 240hp/1071kg
7'40.899 - -Diego- - Subaru Legacy B4 3.0R '03 - 297hp/1328kg
7'44.928 - -Diego- - Vauxhall Vectra '03 - 272hp/1328kg
7'46.180 - -Diego- - Mitsubishi Eclipse Spider '03 - 256hp/1328kg
8'04.190 - -Diego- - Pontiac Vibe GT '03 - 222hp/1158kg
8'15.648 - -Diego- - Peugeot 106 S16 '03 - 150hp/931kg
8'18.076 - -Diego- - Volkwagen Lupo GTI '01 - 153hp/945kg
8'52.464 - -Diego- - Toyota bB Z '00 - 143hp/987kg
9'09.950 - -Diego- - Suzuki MR Wagon Sport '04 - 85hp/834kg

*Leaderboard updated

 

[VEXD]

Some new Honda times. I will add more times later for other makes and models. Any other Honda enthusiasts on this board?

Erm.... there might be.....

What's your favourite?, i'll race you...

👍

 

[Vtec Inside]

Erm.... there might be.....

What's your favourite?, i'll race you...

👍

Sweet, another Honda enthusiast.👍 Wanna race a '98 DC2 ITR with me?

Latest times:

6'42.492-Vtec Inside-Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A '02-358hp/1155kg
7'06.401-Vtec Inside-Acura NSX '04-342hp/1301kg
7'31.948-Vtec Inside-Mazda RX-8 '03-264hp/1210kg
8'37.090-Vtec Inside-Honda Element '03-212hp/1372kg

 

[Diego440]

It would be cool to see a row between you two on this one.

That being said, I won't pretend Superhero Wally and/or VEXD are the best GT4 drivers in the world. However, they're quite good and it took them quite some time and battling to get the times they did with the Mazda RX-7 Spirit-R Type A '02; them being:

6'53.014 - Superhero Wally - Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A '02
6'53.843 - VEXD - Mazda RX-7 Spirit-R Type A '02

The issue I'm having is that Vtec Inside, you're claiming a time of 6'42.492. Now is this a typo or did you really drop their times by more than 10 seconds? If it's not a typo, I'd like to request proof, in the form of an updated video or a .max file.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm all for posting challenging times (even if mine aren't really), and challenging each other's times all around. And your times seem reallyy good to go against the rest, but the RX-7 one is just too much.

*Leaderboard updated

 

[VEXD]

Hmmmm....

Ive posted the wooden spoon and plastic bowl on an overnight to las canarias yaygo.

I managed this for starters in the 'teg:

7'45.054-VEXD-Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2) '98-237hp/1015kg

Beat me, and i'll come back with faster vtec.... lets race 👍

I ran ONE lap with the Acura NSX just to see where his times stack up Di, and i got 7'05.996 with 2 fall-offs, so it makes sense there, but i agree with the RX-7 time, there's no one around here that beats SuperheroWally by ten seconds, unless theyve got a different tune level on the car, or they made a mistake on their post.
Forgive me if im wrong vtec, and please make me eat my words, but i ran that combo for an hour or two, and i know there wasnt much time left to squeeze out of it, so 10 seconds is a large amount.

Either way, lets see what you got in the teg, and race on!

👍

 

[Diego440]

I agree and think it's a typo... mebbe I came out sounding harsher than I meant. Of course the NSX time is alright, it's close to mine!

 

[Vtec Inside]

It would be cool to see a row between you two on this one.

That being said, I won't pretend Superhero Wally and/or VEXD are the best GT4 drivers in the world. However, they're quite good and it took them quite some time and battling to get the times they did with the Mazda RX-7 Spirit-R Type A '02; them being:

6'53.014 - Superhero Wally - Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A '02
6'53.843 - VEXD - Mazda RX-7 Spirit-R Type A '02

The issue I'm having is that Vtec Inside, you're claiming a time of 6'42.492. Now is this a typo or did you really drop their times by more than 10 seconds? If it's not a typo, I'd like to request proof, in the form of an updated video or a .max file.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm all for posting challenging times (even if mine aren't really), and challenging each other's times all around. And your times seem reallyy good to go against the rest, but the RX-7 one is just too much.

*Leaderboard updated

Sorry, typo 6'52.492. Yeah, I couldn't imagine beating them by 10 seconds. BTW the RX-8 time was done with a RX-8 Type E, if that makes a difference.

 

[Vtec Inside]

Hmmmm....

Ive posted the wooden spoon and plastic bowl on an overnight to las canarias yaygo.

I managed this for starters in the 'teg:

7'45.054-VEXD-Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2) '98-237hp/1015kg

Beat me, and i'll come back with faster vtec.... lets race 👍

I ran ONE lap with the Acura NSX just to see where his times stack up Di, and i got 7'05.996 with 2 fall-offs, so it makes sense there, but i agree with the RX-7 time, there's no one around here that beats SuperheroWally by ten seconds, unless theyve got a different tune level on the car, or they made a mistake on their post.
Forgive me if im wrong vtec, and please make me eat my words, but i ran that combo for an hour or two, and i know there wasnt much time left to squeeze out of it, so 10 seconds is a large amount.

Either way, lets see what you got in the teg, and race on!

👍

Thanks for not taking it out on me VEXD (it was a typo). I can't afford to cheat, I don't have the equipment to provide video evidence against it. I'm pretty good with a car, especially the Honda's, I'm used to driving them. I'll get that DC2 time for you soon, I'm afraid you will be stiff competition, but glad for the challenge with a like minded Honda driver. Peace out. BTW. I have Logitech G25, what do you use?

 

[Diego440]

Thanks for the swift response. Had us kinda worried there for a second.

 

[Vtec Inside]

Here's what I got so far VEXD. Curiously my teg has almost ten less horses than yours, it's got 19,500 miles.

7'46.643-Vtec Inside-Honda Integra Type R (DC2) '98-228hp/1015kg