Rumbler Police Siren: a Siren you feel.

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This is a BRILLIANT idea!

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The Rumbler introduces a revolutionary new concept to audible warning. This system has the ability to interact with 100/200-watt siren amplifiers and provide secondary, low frequency duplicate tones. Low frequency tones have the distinct advantage of penetrating and shaking solid materials allowing vehicle operators and nearby pedestrians to FEEL the sound waves, and perhaps even see their effects through a shaking rearview mirror.
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I Don't think this is a siren you can ignore. I can rightfully say that touch is a powerful thing, and feeling a sudden buzzing through your steering wheel, (And your teeth) in time with a siren behind you, should get your attention. I wonder if they can apply the same concept to "Groundshaker" train horns...

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Could I hook up one of these to my system so people can not only hear my music but feel it too?

Think Id get an asbo and my car impounded if I did lol :D
 
Yeah, probably would. XD

I think you have to be a municipality to buy a system, but I'm not sure. Also not sure they'll play music.
 
They say its revolutionary but why do they need it??

Whats better than flashing lights and a loud siren, is like they are trying to solve an issue that doesn't exist..... and you know that things going to loosen something in the ground like a gas main!

Its just another Policemans toy I think

If your deaf Im sure your not allowed to drive anyway.

Robin
 
People in the U.S. are terribly ignorant, Robin ///////. I don't have the original report I heard this from, but one officer followed a guy five or six blocks before he pulled over with his old siren. It's another example of us Americans being drivers who only think of ourselves and not everyone else on the road.

You dont' have to get it. It's simply the mentality around here.
 
Jim Prower
People in the U.S. are terribly ignorant, Robin ///////. I don't have the original report I heard this from, but one officer followed a guy five or six blocks before he pulled over with his old siren. It's another example of us Americans being drivers who only think of ourselves and not everyone else on the road.

You dont' have to get it. It's simply the mentality around here.
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Oh right, I see..... in the UK the mentality's is probably different. People instantly pull over, Police don't even need to use their siren, they just flash you and point you to the side of the road! In our tiny cars and quiet roads its hard to miss blue lights! :lol:

Robin
 
Robin ///////
Oh right, I see..... in the UK the mentality's is probably different. People instantly pull over, Police don't even need to use their siren, they just flash you and point you to the side of the road! In our tiny cars and quiet roads its hard to miss blue lights! :lol:
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You need to ride in an ambulance. People don't pull over at all.


I followed a bloke the other day who was making some quite reckless overtakes and harassing other drivers. When I say "followed", I did quite safe overtakes but I was three or four cars behind him because he was going for gaps that didn't exist.

5 miles later, he was tailgating the guy in front of him. I saw the ambulance. The guy behind me saw me see the ambulance. The guy in front of me saw me see the ambulance. Everybody pulled over, safely, to the left to allow the ambulance unimpeded access. Except... guess who? :D He was so fixated on the guy in front of him he didn't even see the ambulance - which had to go onto the opposite side of the road just to pass him.


The majority of people do move - both here and in the US. A minority think they're getting out of the way, but actually cause more problems (anchors on and stopping next to a traffic island, rather than continuing and finding a safe place to pull over). Another minority just don't see things until it's too late.
 
I'd say it's worse in some areas of the country than others, too. I think this siren's a good idea if municipalities are having problems with the local drivers.I pull over, but I've noticed some people, especially as traffic gets thicker, will ignore.
 
If it's just a buzzing, vibrating sensation, I don't think it'll have any effect. It'll probably be too small to gather attention if it's much short of an earthquake. The attentive drivers might notice, but they already know a cop is coming. The ones who aren't will probably just think it's a weird pavement they are driving on.

Plus, people won't know what the heck it is. If you see the lights and hear the sirens, feeling the car start to feel funny will probably just confuse people. I know that if it started happening to me, the last thing I would think is "cop. Gotta pull over." If you want to attract attention to yourself, you have to let people know what you want them to pay attention to.
 
Funny enough, the other day I was driving and an Ambulance was coming up ahead of us in the opposite direction. Everyone pulls over except for a police car in front of me that just went ahead and passed everyone.
 
Could the police car have been making a path for the ambulance? Police escort? He saw the ambulance and thought he could help?

I've never seen a problem with a car not pulling over for an emergency vehicle on call, I have seen someone 'panic' though and, as Famine said, stop in a position which makes it harder for the ambulance to get around.

I'll tell you what though, they do one hell of a job, I wouldn't like to drive several tonnes (tens of incase of fire engine) of vehicle at 40mph faster than those around them, when the other cars have stopped.
 
Famine
You need to ride in an ambulance. People don't pull over at all.
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I quite enjoyed my three weeks with Paramedics, getting to shout things out of the passenger side window at idiots who managed to do the 'not seeing the ambulance' thing. Although being squished against the bulkhead at 4G when in the back of the ambulance because the driver had to brake suddenly wasn't quite as much fun :lol:

I don't think anything will make the idiotic ones any more able to see or hear emergency vehicles. Their mentality of being the only ones on the road is unlikely to change, with or without new types of sirens.
 
Am I the only person who's car doesn't feel like it's driving on silky smooth tarmac roads?

This'll have to be some serious vibration for you to differ it from just the road surface or a chav with his music cranked up in his Saxo.
 
pffft my car does that already.
Pretty good idea but what about the poor policemen surely this would do a lot of damage to their hearing?
 
ExigeEvan
Am I the only person who's car doesn't feel like it's driving on silky smooth tarmac roads?

This'll have to be some serious vibration for you to differ it from just the road surface or a chav with his music cranked up in his Saxo.
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With my system at full blast it will drown out emergerncy service sirens when sitting inside. However The flashing lights usually give me fair warning before its too late that the police etc are coming.
 
forza2.0
With my system at full blast it will drown out emergerncy service sirens when sitting inside. However The flashing lights usually give me fair warning before its too late that the police etc are coming.
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And I imagine that all comes with a fair bit of bass aswell, no?

So for people like you who probably aren't as aware of the emergency vehicle as soon as others this'll have no effect.
 
It might work in an area where there aren't many pedestrians. I just hope that the police don't use these the way they use regular sirens, because it's already quite hard on pedestrians.
 
Uh, would this not completely throw off the vehicle dynamics of the police car or ambulance? It seems to me that if the siren can rumble enough so that the waves can be felt in other cars then the police car’s handling would be shot to bits…
 
I think the technology is for blasting through intersections and getting people out of the way on a highway. The only people who would it might affect are the guys flying around a corner faster than they already should be going.
 
Same here. But the vibrations will be far worse next to the police car. I would surely hope nobody goes racing with a cop two cars away.

Although it might be a neat trick to find somebody you think is about to take off really fast and flip the switch making them lose traction and then pull them over for reckless driving.
 
Blake
Uh, would this not completely throw off the vehicle dynamics of the police car or ambulance? It seems to me that if the siren can rumble enough so that the waves can be felt in other cars then the police car’s handling would be shot to bits…
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Yes, it's so powerful it disrupts a 3200lb car to the point where it no longer drives or functions normally.

Think they'd done product testing before implementation? :O
 
philly cheese
Same here. But the vibrations will be far worse next to the police car. I would surely hope nobody goes racing with a cop two cars away.
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There is a road near my house where it’s roundabouts every few hundred meters, and I often fly through them, tyres squealing.

Anywho, this one day I was next to a cop, and he was speeding through the straight sections but I’d pass him very convincingly at the roundabouts. So we kept on swapping ‘the lead’ like in an old fashioned racing cartoon. I made sure I didn’t let the tyres slide, but I was cornering fast enough that I’m a little surprised he didn’t pull me over for reckless driving or whatever that falls under. :p

Year.Zero
Yes, it's so powerful it disrupts a 3200lb car to the point where it no longer drives or functions normally.

Think they'd done product testing before implementation? :O
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Well it shakes the road, so it definitely shakes the suspension and the chassis, and I’m pretty sure when close to the cornering limit the difference would be significant enough to notice…
 
Blake
There is a road near my house where it’s roundabouts every few hundred meters, and I often fly through them, tyres squealing.

Anywho, this one day I was next to a cop, and he was speeding through the straight sections but I’d pass him very convincingly at the roundabouts. So we kept on swapping ‘the lead’ like in an old fashioned racing cartoon. I made sure I didn’t let the tyres slide, but I was cornering fast enough that I’m a little surprised he didn’t pull me over for reckless driving or whatever that falls under. :p
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I don't think he can technically bust you for just driving fast unless you have the car under control according to him. I would guess the blues would start flashing as soon as one tire slipped. maybe he wasn't trying to pull somebody over.

Well it shakes the road, so it definitely shakes the suspension and the chassis, and I’m pretty sure when close to the cornering limit the difference would be significant enough to notice…
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Does it shake the road? I'm now under the impression that it crates sound waves that are powerful enough to just vibrate things in the vehicle. To move the road you would need something in contact with it.
 
I dont' think this actually shakes the car enough to make the tires lose traction. It's a set of harmonic tones which would be well felt by the human body. It more shakes you, not so much the car.

otherwise, guys with big woofers would lose control every time a bass drum hit.
 
ExigeEvan
And I imagine that all comes with a fair bit of bass aswell, no?

So for people like you who probably aren't as aware of the emergency vehicle as soon as others this'll have no effect.
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Yep precisely.
 
Robin ///////
If your deaf Im sure your not allowed to drive anyway.

Robin
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Forgive me for pointing this quote out after it's been commented so early in the discussion, but I must say that the comment reeks of ignorance. What can be said that prevents, exactly, a deaf person from driving in this case of really bright flashing blue lights and an extremely loud sirens?

First, to clarify what I mean and to make this comment understandable, I am a 22 years old male, have been driving since I was 18 and am profoundly deaf. I do have a cochlea implant in my left ear and a bog-standard, normal NHS hearing aid in the right ear. I am also a aural person (I talk. I don't sign).

Therefore the actual experience of driving has presented me with no problems whatsoever, as it is merely just a case of being aware of what is around you with your eyes and feeling what the car is doing. Yes, hearing does come into play with driving a car, however I have found out with my experience that in comparison to seeing and feeling something, it is not as important.

I have been driven around by people who sign and have no hearing aids at all and their driving manners are actually much better than the average person, largely because they take more time and are more cautious with how they are driving in comparison to the average, unaware person on the road.

Back to the normal topic of conversation, every single time that there has been an emergency vehicle with the sirens and lights, I have always seen them coming from some distance away as I make sure that I am aware of everything that is happening around me. However I can imagine with the vibration gadget (yes, its a gadget to me) that it wouldn't be particularly useful unless the emergency guys are right behind a rather lazy person who has not realised that they are behind him/her.
 

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