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User in the quoted message is conveniently omitting/not acknowledging the dozens, if not hundreds of Russian airstrikes on civilian areas that have nothing to do with Ukrainian military capacity and have claimed 10,500+ civilian lives since the start of the invasion in 2022.
Ukraine Used Cluster Bombs, Evidence Indicates (Published 2014)
The Ukrainian Army appears to have fired cluster munitions, a weapon banned in much of the world, into the heart of Donetsk, according to physical evidence and interviews with witnesses and victims.www.nytimes.com
This goes back to 2014 or am I hallucinating?NATO continuing to expand close to Russian territory certainly did not upset Putin either, oh wait it did and he's been warning against it for years.
You’re not hallucinating because it goes back to 2014, you’re hallucinating because you think both sides wanted war.Ukraine Used Cluster Bombs, Evidence Indicates (Published 2014)
The Ukrainian Army appears to have fired cluster munitions, a weapon banned in much of the world, into the heart of Donetsk, according to physical evidence and interviews with witnesses and victims.
This goes back to 2014 or am I hallucinating?
NATO’s only threat to Russia is that it makes it a lot harder for Putin to threaten his neighbours with aggression. Russia’s neighbours have a right to self defense and souvereignity, they are not obliged to be Putin’s puppets.
Why?
The claimed reasons are not the actual reasons. He manufactured a situation in Ukraine with civil war to give himself a pretext for an invasion. The actual reason for the invasion is to take Crimea (in 2014) and then to install a new government (in 2022) and then to try to grab as much territory as he possibly can (from 2022 until today). So to the claimed reasons he could certainly have found other solutions, but not to the actual reasons.
What makes you think so?
You’re the one supporting the war though, by claiming that Ukraine shouldn’t defend themselves against the aggression. That way Putin would get exactly what he wanted when he started the war and give him more incentive to continue along this path of aggression.
So enlighten me, how would you solve the war in Russia and Ukraine now that you’ve learned how terrible war is?
Again, citation required.And yes Jens Stoltenberg said what I mentioned, but even if I went and found the video I'm sure you'd find a way to spin it because of course, everyone here believes our leaders care so much about Ukrainians
Relevance? Why did you call him a puppet? Are you actually implying that it was the World Economic Forum who started the war?The young global leaders program from the World Economic Forum
Young Global Leaders - Wikipedia
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Klaus Schwab implying that Vladimir Putin was part of the program along with Merkel and Tony Blair
Russian people are victims of Putin.
Was there intent to kill civilians in those airstrikes? We don't know, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Still warcrimes. There were strikes against civilian infrastructure approved by Putin publicly, but since 2024 Ukraine doing same thing regularly.
I see daily reports of shellings in Belgorod and Kursk, which aren't in "independent media". Putin killed any signs of "independent media" and you just don't see what happens here.
While you right, there is still Putin that thinks otherwise. Both Georgia and Ukraine happens after they publicly declared that they want to join NATO. There is possibility, that whole thing wouldn't happen if they didn't.
He fueled it, but not created. There wasn't any plans to invade Ukraine since Crimea was taken and until 2021 when he finally realised that Minsk agreements never would start working. It doesn't make him any better, but we should understand why he did what he did. Because he still here and still making moves.
Let's play devil's advocate. How many already died? 200.000? 300.000? How many would die if Zelenskiy run in Poland in 2022? My guess, is few thousands. What is worse - horror without end or horrible end?
Apparently being part of Russia is worse as the Ukrainians don't want that.
If that was actually happening, like the systematic bombing of Donetsk which turned out to be only alive in the head of Putin and his puppets, we would know because the countries delivering the weapons to Ukraine told them for quite some time that Russia itself was off limits.
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I missed part when someone asked them how many Ukranians should die for not being under RF control. Actually, Zelenskiy was president of peace that deescalated Donbas conflict to almost 0.
I'm not going to do this with you again. You need to accept that most of the Ukrainians don't want Russia or Russians in their country. You are starting to follow the clown in his foot steps with your posts.
Its uncomfortable to see and you don't look.
Its not. Its **** FPV drones mostly, they see their targets.
My point isnt that they want or dont want(they dont). My point is that no one asked do they want to pay the cost of it.
Yeap, polls available and they dont prove you point. Every day freezing of conflict gaining support, even Zelenskiy saying they would peacetalk before year end. As we all understand, situation in December or November wouldn't be drastically different from what we have now.
I have no idea how you come to that conclusion.
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Not sure how its related. I don't see them defending Ukraine in any significant numbers.
Its nothing alike Soviet rule, free market.
Crimea annexion wasn't part of civil war, there wasn't any war for it. Ukrainian government just passed it without a fight.
jalopnik.com
Important note here so people don't freak out: This is not a nuclear H-Bomb like the name implies. This was a coventional explosion made by strapping explosives to the hydrogen tank.Toyotas and improvised warfare, name a better duo:
Toyota Mirai Turned Into Hydrogen Bomb By Ukrainian Forces Explodes With The Force Of 400 Pounds Of TNT - Jalopnik
The Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle has hardly been an international sales success, thanks to poor hydrogen infrastructure, expense, and polarizing design, but it proved successful to Ukrainian forces which scavenged parts from the hydrogen car to create the world’s smallest...
I'm also not sure what's more surprising, that the Ukrainians made a makeshift bomb out of Mirai or that someone actually bought a Mirai in the first place.
I've been over that with him before. They refuse to surrender so that's a pretty strong indicator that they're willing to die before they become Russian, and the rest of the Eastern Europeans I mentioned have that same sentiment.
The Ukrainian refugees are women, children and old people. The only men of fighting age I see here are either disabled or have lost most of the men in their family due to fighting already and are relieved of duty.
Because for now it still isn't their war, if that call comes, they're ready to go. Just look at how much Poland is investing in their army.
Yes, you can look at pictures of the stuff you were able to buy once, while enjoying free speech and somewhat honest politics. If Putin's successor has the same ideas, the Iron Curtain is going back up.
Ukraine, obviously.
There was, you just don't know about that because no one gives a **** about what they doing or thinking. Half of Belgorodians have friends or relatives in Ukraine, pre 2014 it was one agglomeration.
Ukrainian border guards reporting hundreds crossing border illegally daily.
Really? Full stadiums of people cheering him and the colossal reality distortion field that manifests everytime a Russian talks about the war and the way they think Russia should be perceived in the world makes me think differently. You, in this very thread, is an example of this.
That's great, but they aren't here.
Exchange?
~ million currently dieing for him in trenches, I guess its not that hard to find 35k individuals that would like to hang out at free concert of Polina Gagarina and spend 30 minutes with president.
Guess, few randoms from internet isn't representing 140.000.000 country.
Soviet culture and society. Surprisingly everyone in Ukraine and Russia older than 40 y. are product of this culture. Zelenskiy is product of this culture.
You nuts?
So I think that's just ADS-B's best guess as to where the plane is based on satellite data. I'm a frequent browser of the reddit r/ADSB and this regularly comes out. Apparently, the antenna coverage in that part of the world is sketchy, and the system tries to fill in the blanks. It's likely that civilian planes aren't Leroy Jenkinsing across an active war zone...especially since the orcs enjoy shooting down passenger aircraft.
