Safari? On Windows?

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Its not fit and finished enough for my usage yet... has problems with much of my work's login permissions and such... and I'm still loving my Firefox with its plugins.
 
I'm gonna check it out, I've been trying to get Opera to look like Safari for ages, now I can probably get the real deal.
 
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I've had firefox and windows set up like this for a few days while. Close, no?
- I'll end up trying Safari soon anyways, I already have Opera, its not that great (no plugins). maybe safari will be better.
 
Okay, so since Safari is for Mac users that don't like the buggy version of Firefox that they get, how could Windows users -- who already have a fine and dandy version of Firefox -- benefit from this?
 
All I can say is it looks nice like itunes on windows but I don't see how it could be any better than firefox..... It seems like most mac users use Firefox anyway so I don't what apple is trying to do here.....

It must be so many people hate IE7, like me! :lol:
 
Okay, so since Safari is for Mac users that don't like the buggy version of Firefox that they get, how could Windows users -- who already have a fine and dandy version of Firefox -- benefit from this?
That's what I was thinking. I've heard that Safari was ported so people can develop on the iPhone, and if they get more marketshare then that's a bonus.

Of course, I'm probably wrong, but it's food for thought.
All I can say is it looks nice like itunes on windows but I don't see how it could be any better than firefox..... It seems like most mac users use Firefox anyway so I don't what apple is trying to do here.....

It must be so many people hate IE7, like me! :lol:

Actually, most Mac users use Safari. Why? Because Firefox is a buggy, slow POS that doesn't integrate with anything the Mac has worth a dime. The reason Safari is so great on a Mac is that it provides many Mac-like touches like integration with things like the system-wide Dictionary, Aqua form buttons, etc. With Windows, there's none of that tight integration so Safari ends up being like a gimped Firefox.

What's my take on Safari 3? I like the in-line search. And moving tabs. But other than that and having everything load slow and improperly, I went back to 2 after a half-hour.


EDIT: Then again, maybe Apple ported Safari over so more people can browse their porn without worry. 💡
 
I sometimes use Safari on my Mac when i get annoyed with Firefox's crash issues and have always liked it. So yep i downloaded it for Windows yesterday and have to say it's got promise.

One thing that they need to include to compete with Firefox is plugins (on Windows). I can't live without Adblock+ and Windows Live Adblocker among others so can't see myself using a browser that won't support them.
 
I quite like this Safari, i shall continue using it until I decide firefox is better.
 
I really can't see many people using this. Unless it's better than Firefox, only Mac users will want to use it on Windows instead of it. General Windows users will either have installed Firefox or Opera, or won't care what they use, and Bill Gates carbon copies will still swear by IE (when did you last see someone using IE on a Mac?).

iTunes (to my knowledge) only has so many users because their iPods demand it. I certainly wouldn't have installed it before then, although I now use it as my general music player, but I wouldn't have bothered before then. There's nothing out there introducing users to Safari, and I can't see it taking off on Windows when there's loads of other browsers around.

The only people I can see using this are Mac users on PCs, Mac fans such as myself, and web developers. There's really nothing to entice everyday IE users into swtiching over. It'll get some users, yes, but not enough to make it market leader.

Still, that's not to say I won't be installing it myself :D.
 
I just looked back through the feature list of Safari 3.0. I think everything except snap back, which just goes back to the search results page (which you an get by clicking search again in Firefox), and re-sizable text boxes. And the option to drag tabs off the browser to open a new window. But I can hit CTRL + N, which opens a new window, and drag whatever tabs I want into it from my current window.

I'm just gonna go through the features here and address them...

Did some speed tests, and with FasterFox loaded, I am loading pages at around the same speed as Safari. So speed difference is not a major issue.

The pretty GUI of Safari is lost open me. I like dark themes, not iTunes look... but this is a matter of taste, so its really a mute point.

Bookmarks. Firefox has a windows explorer method for sorting them, Safari uses iTunes. Both are pretty straight forward and function similarly. IE7 does basically the same thing as Safari, just not with the iTunes feel.

Pop-up blocker. Okay, everyone has these nows. So not really a new thing, Apple just likes to pretend it is... kinda like their "Workspaces" thing for Leopard. (Linux anyone?)

Inline find exists in Firefox already. And I think it works better, because I can still use the page while searching it, rather than dealing with the darked out window. Plus Firefox keeps the inline find from tab to tab, making searching multiple tabs easier. Safari has that bright orange box going for it.

Tabs. Yeah, Firefox wins here. We've got those features except the dragging tab onto desktop to make new window. But moving and such been here for a bit. Saving your session and auto resizing of tabs to accommodate more tabs, standard on Firefox.

Snapback. No, Firefox does not have snapback. But then again, snapback just redoes the search and then scrolls that half a page for you. Yay for pointless feature, as I just open results I am interested in a new tab via middle click in Firefox.

Autofill... nice feature, but I never use autofills for the security problems they pose. That, and Firefox and IE7 both have versions that work to various degrees.

RSS feeds... Firefox 2.0 has those as well. So nothing new there.

Resizable text boxes... the bane of web designers. Something Firefox does not have, but then again, not something most people would bother using.

Private Browsing. Firefox has two ways to do this... you can clear all your private data manually by hitting CTRL + SHIFT + DEL (or go into Tools menu), or you can set Firefox to clear all info when you close it. Except you can select what data types you want deleted, which is handy.

Security. Well, they have basically what everyone else can offer. Its just their browser will, as with anything Apple, be targeted by fewer people.

I feel Safari 3.0 is playing catch-up with Firefox and IE7. Sorry you Mac guys don't have a stable version of Firefox to work with, because with my few select plug ins, it pwns Safari 3.0.
 
Just installed it and am running it now, gotta say that for a beta, there are little to no bugs whatsoever, although when my bookmarks from IE7 were imported, none of the links worked & I had to add them manually. The lack of plug-ins don't make me very happy, but what do you expect from beta software? So far I like it, I give it a B+.

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Wow, I'm running Safari on my aunt and uncle's old PC. I tried installing firefox 2, but it crashes constantly. It and IE are so annoying. Apple claims that Safari is twice as fast as IE, and it's showing on this machine. It also claims it's faster than firefox, but I will have to check that claim when I return home. There's no adblock or any other sweet plug-ins that I've found for this thing so far. I love the look and feel, but wish it could be a bit brighter. I like the aqua look, not the steel look. All in all, I agree with what TS had to say about it.

At least, for a beta, it's incredibly stable and well performing. Thanks, Apple!
 
Wow, I'm running Safari on my aunt and uncle's old PC. I tried installing firefox 2, but it crashes constantly. It and IE are so annoying. Apple claims that Safari is twice as fast as IE, and it's showing on this machine. It also claims it's faster than firefox, but I will have to check that claim when I return home. There's no adblock or any other sweet plug-ins that I've found for this thing so far. I love the look and feel, but wish it could be a bit brighter. I like the aqua look, not the steel look. All in all, I agree with what TS had to say about it.

At least, for a beta, it's incredibly stable and well performing. Thanks, Apple!

Well, there are plug-ins for it, just not on the Windows side. And there's not a massive amount of them as well.

But there's PithHelmet for adblocking, and Inquisitor for searching. And Saft (even though I don't use it) will do most other things as well.

It supports plug-ins (though not as directly as Firefox), but since the thing unexpectedly came out yesterday, there's not going to be anything available for a while.
 
I think it looks quite good. A change from the usual IE and Firefox skins.

I sure as hell won't be using it though.
 
Wait, what Mac users use Firefox over Safari? Safari is muuch smoother in general. Scroll down the page in Firefox and do it again in Safari - it's so much nicer.
 
Zrow, FYI - you can toggle that in Firefox. It in general eats up a bit more CPU overhead and such though, thus why I have continued to have it disabled.

And since my scroll wheel normally jumps 10 or lines of text at a time, it gets kinda awkward in Safari or FF with the smooth scroll enabled.
 
Zrow, FYI - you can toggle that in Firefox. It in general eats up a bit more CPU overhead and such though, thus why I have continued to have it disabled.

And since my scroll wheel normally jumps 10 or lines of text at a time, it gets kinda awkward in Safari or FF with the smooth scroll enabled.

Yeah, Firefox has smooth scrolling in a preference pane, but it's not as refined as Safari's (at least on Mac).
 

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