Same car, different year, different power

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Hey all,

had a quick search for this and didn't seem to find anything, so I'll ask away. If you do happen to be one of those people who seemingly spend all of their time on these threads looking to say "try using the search" or "great, another thread like this", then shutup, who cares.

I've noticed on GT5, and previous GT's, that you can have the same model of car, the only difference being their year, and they end up having completely different bhp figures once fully tuned. Perfect examples in GT5 are the FD RX7's, Z32 300ZX's, and R32-R34 GTR's.

Now, with the Z32's, I noticed after modifying several standard versions, and the premium '89 model, that the final bhp differs by up to 150. I'm not sure why. They all have the same VG30DETT, and it's not as if Nissan re-modified all of the stock internals to compensate for more power. Especially when the models are only 3 or 4 years apart...

The GTR's and RX7's are also strange because I assumed that the N1 spec GTR's, and Spirit R Type A would reach the highest outputs. Again, not expecting that Nissan or Mazda had redesigned the internals of the RB26 (well, they say it was of N1 spec so I'm not sure what that actually entails) or 13B but just assumed that the game would make these the best, as they are in real life.

Just curious, has anybody else seen this and wondered the same thing? And is there any reason for it?
 
Some models of the Z32 are N/A and some turbo, so that right away ends differently.
Regarding the Z32 it went through a few little upgrades in its time (different ECU used 8-bit to 16-bit, new fuel injectors for the twin-turbo, Variable cam timing (NVTC) dropped). The other two cars likely have very minor changes as well and the N1's lower power numbers reminded me of the Initial D AE86 which also has a race engine.
 
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Paddy05HDT
Hey all,

had a quick search for this and didn't seem to find anything, so I'll ask away. If you do happen to be one of those people who seemingly spend all of their time on these threads looking to say "try using the search" or "great, another thread like this", then shutup, who cares.

I've noticed on GT5, and previous GT's, that you can have the same model of car, the only difference being their year, and they end up having completely different bhp figures once fully tuned. Perfect examples in GT5 are the FD RX7's, Z32 300ZX's, and R32-R34 GTR's.

Now, with the Z32's, I noticed after modifying several standard versions, and the premium '89 model, that the final bhp differs by up to 150. I'm not sure why. They all have the same VG30DETT, and it's not as if Nissan re-modified all of the stock internals to compensate for more power. Especially when the models are only 3 or 4 years apart...

The GTR's and RX7's are also strange because I assumed that the N1 spec GTR's, and Spirit R Type A would reach the highest outputs. Again, not expecting that Nissan or Mazda had redesigned the internals of the RB26 (well, they say it was of N1 spec so I'm not sure what that actually entails) or 13B but just assumed that the game would make these the best, as they are in real life.

Just curious, has anybody else seen this and wondered the same thing? And is there any reason for it?
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Actually, they likely do change the internals and/or periferrals every few, if not every, year. If you read car mags you will see that many cars that are not (were not, as it were) limited by publishing agreements (japanese makers stuck to a 276 hp published limit for many years) can vary in hp and torque year to year using the same block....generally where an engine name designation is derived.
 
Which RX-7 did you find that out performs the Spirit? I've modified several other FDs and never found one with better stats (although the Bathurst R comes very close and sounds way cooler).
 
I think in GT the general idea is that you could spend more on a newer car that'll have an extra bit of power, or save some money by buying the older car, which wont be as powerful.
 
Newer cars are often more restricted in emissions as well. So engines can be improved to ensure the same overall power/performance once the more restrictive emissions controls are in place, removing them can make the engine much more potent than previous versions.
 

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