SCC Old Timer Event - 1970 Ferrari 512S - Sun, Jan 03rd - 20:00 GMT * Event Complete*

[Shaggy Alonso]

Well, once we finally got going tonight that was quite enjoyable. I finished 7th in Riviera and 4th at Spa.

Bullie says I tagged him when going past in the first race, which I have no recollection of but I apologise anyway. I thought I had checked all around me when overtaking people and a couple of times I let people through as I feared I may have made unfair contact on the way past.

Spa was a very tense race. There was a 3 way tussle for 3rd place between Biggles, Firedshot and myself, which Biggles won in the end. It was extemely close with us all frequently swapping places. However between about laps 13-18 I was maintaining a gap to Biggles (which he was nibbling away at) but when he got a penalty I thought I had secured 3rd place, then I got a penalty at the worst place possible, Eau Rouge and he sailed past me. My pace in the last 5 laps was good but it was a bit too slow before then. In the end Biggles and I both had identical fastest laps, 2:19.42 but overall I believe he was marginally quicker.

I saw the crash between Biggles and Firedshot, I assumed Firedshot ran wide at Blanchimont and lost it himself but he claims Biggles smashed him off the road. To be honest, he seemed to take it pretty bad. These races are for fun, and there's no need to get worked up about them and getting angry at someone unless they're genuinely being a moron. I'm sure Biggles had no intention of causing an accident. Anyway, pacewise, Firedshot had the measure of Biggles and I but he got quite a few penalties which meant he finished in 5th behind me.

Once again Alan cleaned up, and congratulations to him. Infact, he was so dominant I'm going to dedicate this song to him:

 

[Firedshot]

Sorry Biggles for moaning about the incident it was a racing incident and i think i was frustrated about my over performace so i appoligise.

Now onto the racing very good all round racing had good fun and i look forward to racing you all again.

Snazy thanks for moving out of the way on Riviera and not sure about everyone else but you didn't interfear at all from what i could tell?

 

[Silver-Sylph]

I might give this a shot next time round.

 

[Alan_G]

I think my Riviera best lap was 1'40.38, and Spa 2'15'05 I think.

Here's my little review.

Riviera: The qualifying was handy, giving an opportunity to try and get a start near the front. In the race, got a good start (well, I'm referring mainly to when the computer decides to release the car), and could have a nice clean run to build a gap.

There was a bit of lapping to do. I'm not bothered about it; I had a nice gap to 2nd place. But if it were a closer race between me and someone else, it would have been a big problem with some people's lack of awareness. I got held up a couple of times for half a lap. There were occasions when I would begin to send the car up the inside, and the car would just close the door on me. So it's really not on. A lot of people would just smash their way through, rather than getting stuck for half a lap.

Forget about the blue flags - I don't trust they work properly. Anyone who may be lapped should have their user ID labels setting switched on, keep a check on the map, and simply look behind if someone close on the map. And all that has to be done is to get on a straight, pull off the racing line, lift off for one second, and it's job done.

Spa:
Should have been reverse order, and I would have preferred starting last, to avoid any chaos! Started around 10th. jjaisli got a slightly slower start. I chose not to swerve to overtake (the sensible option). Up through Eau Rouge - plenty of smoke, hard to see the road, few cars on the grass. Got up the inside of Eddietrout up the big straight, hit the braking point well, but found myself heading for a turning-in Firedshot who, with great awareness, changed his line mid-corner to avoid me hitting him. I slowed to let him past after that. Then people started piling into me, so I just decided it was safer and more sensible to get on with it. I got hit going into Pouhon, and that sent me into Bullie who was on the outside, and that sent him wide. Sorry Bullie, nothing I could do - someone behind seemed to want to win it on lap 1.

When I came around to lap Frawe and Eddietrout, they were extremely helpful in a clean overtake, slowing a bit and keeping well out of the way. So, thanks for that.

Enjoyable races anyway. Nice to do a couple of longer ones, as it's a bit less learning to do for everyone.

 

[jjaisli]

Ugh! From my perspective, just about everything that could have gone wrong in this event did.

1. We had several ongoing incompatibility problems in the lobby with: ChilledAnt, Bullie77, Arvore, Turnupdaheat, NewSoul, Turner_042 and others all being hit at one point or another, requiring multiple invites.

2. While I was struggling with my dying video camera, I missed the message from New_Soul that he was fixing his controller and started qualifying while he wasn't ready.

3. Several people misinterpreted the starting method for qualifying, getting DSQ in the process. (The idea was to start off slowly and allow the cars in front to build up a lead but not to wait on the grid until the other cars were away).

4. After starting qualifying a 2nd time, I made a big mistake and my fastest lap was almost 2 seconds slower than the first time around (which wasn't a great lap to begin with).

5. For almost the entire race, I was experiencing these occasional screen freezes for 0.5~1.0 seconds. It made racing, and especially close racing nearly impossible. One lap 2 I was hit from behind at the hairpin and got turned around.

6. For most of this race I just couldn't put down a decent lap. The screen lag was making close racing impossible and in trying to pass Arvore, Bullie, & Frawe, I was hitting them repeatedly. When I did so, I tried hard to wait and give back the position but it was some really embarrassing driving on my part. Some of it was because of the lag. But some of it was just poor driving on my part.

7. On the LAST lap of a 20 lap race, my PS3 froze on me. Although this has happened to several people, this is the only time it's ever done this to me during a race. Talk about awful. As such, I would appreciate it if everybody could report their own finishing position.

8. The only thing I can tell you about Spa was that it was some of my worst driving, ever. Full stop. I went off completely on my own going into Les Combes on the first lap and it just shouldn't happen. After that, I think I only had two white laps the ENTIRE race. I scewed up Radillion EVERY-SINGLE-LAP except for my two white laps. What's worse is that most of the time I wasn't even TRYING to take it fast. It got to the point where I was dropping to 2nd and slowing to <120 kmh just to get through it without a penalty. I have never, EVER had that many problems going through there with ANY car.

I'll go through and see what video, if any, I was able to record. And I REALLY hope I was able to record some of those mini freezes so I can show it to Eutechnyx.

Results will follow. Sorry for the mess.

 

[Alan_G]

Yeah, the screen freezes are very annoying. I didn't get it much in Riviera. But I always get it at Spa; the pattern seems to be when there are a lot of people in the race. It always happens at the same point - exiting Les Combes - just as you turn into to the final right-hand part. It's very annoying, and makes it very difficult to get the apex (it's literally like closing your eyes for about 0.3 seconds). The PS3 locally is probably doing some momentary processing, maybe something to do with the other cars' positions or so.

It also always happens at Nurburgring on that right-hander before heading onto the longest back straight. And also at Montreal, also the right-hander before the long curved back straight.

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

There was a bit of lapping to do. I'm not bothered about it; I had a nice gap to 2nd place. But if it were a closer race between me and someone else, it would have been a big problem with some people's lack of awareness. I got held up a couple of times for half a lap. There were occasions when I would begin to send the car up the inside, and the car would just close the door on me. So it's really not on. A lot of people would just smash their way through, rather than getting stuck for half a lap.

Forget about the blue flags - I don't trust they work properly. Anyone who may be lapped should have their user ID labels setting switched on, keep a check on the map, and simply look behind if someone close on the map. And all that has to be done is to get on a straight, pull off the racing line, lift off for one second, and it's job done.

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I remember when you lapped me it was on the long, fast section towards the end of the lap. You took me completely by surprise and I moved over accordingly, I hope I wasn't holding you up before that point. The blue flag didn't even wave till you were almost level with my car.

 

[Alan_G]

That's okay. The blue flag system should really work properly. And it's a pretty simple one - if the gap is less than maybe 1.5s, show a blue flag. I suspect part of their problem is that they don't have references between a lapping car and a being-lapped car; they probably have some crazy (or lazy) way of calculating the gap.

But anyway, at least the map is there as some help, and the car-labels just to make sure.

 

[jjaisli]

Results Screens from Spa:

 

[Alan_G]

Mid 2'17 lap is pretty fast JJ, especially since you're using a wheel, and since you probably have had very little practice.

I spent the first 12 laps or so doing around low to mid 2'16. Then I uncovered a chunk of time somewhere (entering 'Bruxelles', I started braking around 70m and turning immediately after starting to brake. Works nicely!). The 2'15.05 time was just the whole lap coming together nicely. The tricky ones are: getting a good slingshot out of 'Liege' (the one after...'Bruxelles'), Stavelot-1 was tricky to get right, and the exit of the bus-stop - there's a way of getting out of there so you take a slingshot, getting the right-hand wheels all the way to the left on the white line at the left-apex, and then dealing with the bumps.

 

[jjaisli]

It would be easy to say I suffered from not playing at all in more than a week. And there's probably some truth to it. But I did 5 laps on both tracks this morning to get some practice in and I cranked out 2 x 2.17s in a row at Spa and was nailing Radillion dead on. No setup changes at all. So I'm guessing it was just one of 'those' nights.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Yep, 2.17' is a great lap, I don't think I ever achieved that! 👍

Congratulations on your wins Alan. And also, to you and new soul, congrats on your 2,15 laps. Very impressive!

 

[Biggles]

Had a very enjoyable race at Spa, not withstanding the "Eau Rouge incident". As I remember it I (just) slipped past Firedshot after he went wide at the last hairpin, but we then ended up approaching Eau Rouge more or less side-by-side.

I hope, on reflection, Firedshot realizes that his indignant outburst about me "not using my mirror" is entirely misplaced, as in SCC, in cockpit view, you can't see anything alongside, or even behind & to the side of your car, either with or without a "look-back" view (which unfortunately is not working on my G25 at the minute). Unluckily for Firedshot, he got the worst of the SCC collision physics, but I believe it could have gone either way. You can see in-car footage of the incident here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sP_F66NB6Q&feature=related

The strategically wise thing to have done in this situation, would have been for one (or both) of us to have backed off & relied on drafting for an easy overtake going up the Kemmel straight.

The rest of the race was a superb, exciting & exhausting, battle of attrition between Shaggy & myself for 3rd & 4th place, being chased by a (presumably) irate & faster lapping Firedshot. For lap after lap we remained 2 to 3 seconds apart as Firedshot crept steadily up on both of us. Eventually I slid onto the grass at Radillon allowing Firedshot & Shaggy to scream past on the Kemmel straight. In 5th place I then gave chase to Firedshot & Shaggy. A couple of laps later I watched as Firedshot flew impressively across the track about 1 metre off the ground at Eau Rouge & the hunt for 3rd was back on. I made only the very slightest headway against Shaggy, until on the 18th lap Shaggy finally lost it at Eau Rouge & picked up a penalty allowing me past for a 2 second lead which I held onto until the finish line.

Riviera was fun also, but with those deadly curbs it was a race with multiple "incidents".

 

[Biggles]

Wow, Jeff: 9 penalties!

Actually, the penalties pretty much tell the tale. I managed to avoid any penalties (although I did slide off at Radillon once) for 20 laps.

I notice Shaggy refers to an incident at Blanchimont between Firedshot & myself, so now I'm really not sure what incident Firedshot was referring to, perhaps he will clarify tomorrow...

 

[Alan_G]

Hah, that's a hilarious idea to show your replay footage.

Although, it's a pretty haunting reminder of Eau Rouge in the past. Bellof's crash shows what's wrong with having a solid barrier at that kind of angle to the racing line. Kind of puts our harmless computer game racing in perspective.

 

[Biggles]

I didn't post it as a joke - it's actually kind of chilling footage. However, the view from the cockpit camera is pretty identical to the cockpit view you get in SCC, where you have absolutely no peripheral vision, so charging into a corner side-by-side isn't "safe". The only view that helps in that situation is the bonnet-cam look-back view. Unfortunately, at the moment, due to a broken wire in my G25, I don't have any look-back view ...

 

[Firedshot]

On around about lap 6 between turn 17 and 18 i was on the right hand side of you and you pulled over to the right pushing me onto the grass causing me to spin out. Like i said above sorry about my outburst it was a racing incident and i think i was just more frustrated at my overall performance!

 

[turnupdaheat]

Well, that was a frustrating night! Despite receiving numerous invitations (thanks for your patience Jeff) I couldn't connect to the lobby for the Riviera race. Missing the first race in our previous "Old Timer" meetings wouldn't cause too much pain but when there are only 2 races in the night it is annoying.

I kept in touch with what was going on from the chat and it was lucky for me that Jeff's ps3 froze because it allowed me to join when he opened the second lobby. I didn't realise it at the time but once I connected to the lobby ChilledAnt couldn't. Chilli and I have raced each other a fair few times but we pretty regularly encounter this problem where we can't be in the same lobby together. Anyone have any ideas what might cause this?

Anyway, back to Spa. I got a reasonable start and good speed through Eau Rouge which allowed me pass some cars on the Kemmel straight. There were the usual first lap incidents at Les Combes and I found myself in third place behind Eddietrout and Firedshot. We were joined by new_soul and Alan on the second lap and there was a decent 5 car tussle for a while. The two lads made their way to the front and I followed them past eddie and Firedshot and things began to settle with Alan pulling away from new_soul, new_soul pulling away from me and me pulling away from Firedshot!

After a while I could see that Firedshot and Biggles were passing and re-passing each other. This was fine by me as it allowed me to continue to grow the gap which was up to about 5 or 6 seconds but I lost nearly all of that when I made a mistake giving it too much juice on the exit of Les Combes on lap 6. I went on to the grass, hit the barrier and by the time I recovered Biggles was less than a second behind me.

I managed to settle down and open up the gap again. On lap 8 I noticed that new_soul must also have made a mistake as he was just 4 and a bit seconds up the road and I had something to aim at. Then disaster! I got an error message and I was signed out of the psn, end of story!

 

[jjaisli]

Just as a reminder, if everybody could post or at least PM me the results from Riviera, I'd appreciate it. Did anybody actually get the final results screen or just their own position or neither? This is all I know so far.

1. AlanG
2. ChilledAnt
3. Firedshot
4. Turner_042
5. New_Soul
6.
7. Shaggy_Alonso
8. SimcoeAce (Biggles)
9. jjaisli
10. Arvore
11. Drivatar
12. eddietrout
13. Bullie77
14. Snazy20

 

[bullie77]

Bullie says I tagged him when going past in the first race, which I have no recollection of but I apologise anyway. I thought I had checked all around me when overtaking people and a couple of times I let people through as I feared I may have made unfair contact on the way past.

No worries about it 👍

It was on the beginning of lap 2, in the middle of the first left-right sequence, you bumped 3/4 times in my back and the last one caused me to spin out. When I finally get the car straight, I've dropped from 5th to 16th.

On the second race it was me who caused and accident, at Eau Rouge, on lap 2 or 3; I missed the braking point and hit hard on Arvore's back (sorry about it). Subsequently, Frawe also missed his braking and hit me in the back and I went off-track (thanks for waiting Frank!).

About the qualification, I think this is hard to implement this way, with large lobbies.

About Riviera final stand: I was 13th in lap 19 when the lobby crashed

 

[Biggles]

On around about lap 6 between turn 17 and 18 i was on the right hand side of you and you pulled over to the right pushing me onto the grass causing me to spin out. Like i said above sorry about my outburst it was a racing incident and i think i was just more frustrated at my overall performance!

Because you were talking about "using mirrors" after the race, I had assumed you were referring to the Eau Rouge incident, although I'm not 100% sure that was you, & I'm not sure what the outcome was - I was just assuming that the problem occurred there.

In any case, I was aware that at some point in the race you fell well behind - I'm sorry if I was the cause of it, however it did set up a very tense 3-way race between myself, you & Shaggy, in which you made up a lot of time over 8 or 9 laps & which you would have won, except for the fact that you lost it late in the race at Eau Rouge. It may have ended in frustration for you, but at least we had 10 or 12 laps of good, intense racing, which seems to be more than any one else had. I feel bad for Alan, way up front with nothing but the scenery to look at, & new_soul, too far behind Alan to have any hope of catching him, but miles in front of everyone else, & turnupdaheat, who got kicked from the race.

At Riviera, I believe I was 8th at the end - behind Shaggy & in front of Jeff.

 

[new_soul]

riviera: 5th before the line

 

[frawe]

On the second race it was me who caused and accident, at Eau Rouge, on lap 2 or 3; I missed the braking point and hit hard on Arvore's back (sorry about it). Subsequently, Frawe also missed his braking and hit me in the back and I went off-track (thanks for waiting Frank!).

I didnt miss my braking point. Your car suddenly stood nearly still and you was in the middle of my line. No way to steer or to brake (especially at Eau Rouge) and avoiding the collision. Sorry for the crash.
The race at Spa was nearly with no highlights for me. After the crash with bullie I managed to pass him in a clean way some laps later. After this he left the race and lobby. The next in front was avore. I could close in and his gap melted to 2 sec. But than I made some mistakes and I lost 10 to 12 sec to him. In the lap I passed him only while he had a crash with alans car. Alan finished the race and his car was driven by the AI at slow speed. I also nearly crashed into the car bit was able to slip through. Oh, I had one highlight. Alan lapped me I saw him coming and slowed down at the last corner before entering the straight finish line and gave him enough room for passing.

In the Riviera race I had some bumpy experiences with Jeff. But this was caused with his PS3 problems and not his normal driving style. I thought I was 9th in Riviera at the last lap and drivatar 10th behind me. But the 10th place is also ok.

 

[arvore]

What a ****ed up night...i only attend this event becaused it seemed that it will be short on people( some because of commitements,others because they desliked the new rules...) and i felt the obligation to attend trying at least with my presence(since i can't do it with my driving) contribute to the sucess of this particular event(that Jeff with all is effort in assuring well deserves) and assuring a minimum quorum of racers.

To my surprise(or maybe not) the event was as usual a great sucess with the participation of a increasing number of players of TRE members(wich is something to salute) and almost everyother racer from the previous events...👍

So all conditions were there for another great racing night...from my side,like i was the primary victim of the connection issues that from the early beggining of these events continue to shadow the sucess of this game ,after trying all the solutions provided in eutcx. forums(port fowarding,DMZ,UPnp,etc)unsuccefully,since the last event i wired my ps3 to my modem like jeff refers and i've to say since then i never got booted out again during the events...(so it's probably a good suggestion) so i was pretty sure these problems would not occur unfortunaly the bug chose other victims with people getting droped and can't rejoining( sorry for you Dereck)👎

After all the delay the qualifying begun and when itgot my time to start i realized my controller conf was all ****ed up i couldn't use the right analog stick to accelarate or break and the x button was silmutaneausly throotle and switching camera
As i couldn't play in those conditions quitted the qualy and went to the control config menu and switched to the right settings...
I was glad the qualy didn't count so we had to repeat it...same problem almost banged my DS3 into the tv...
The race at riviera begun with the usual inccidents when the pack is all togheter speccialy in a tight track like this one...i was in 10 behind jeff and in front of Franck i think when the ****ing thing froze.

In spa as the best drivers were on the back things got a little bit messy in the first few laps before the dust settled(litterally)- i will make a small reference to this issue after- after a awfull race full of mistakes-it almost seemed that me and jeff were competing to see who got more penaltys- trying to get eddietrout and trying to escape Bullie(Who i have to appologise by the bump at La Source but iwas also pushed from behind by Ben) and Franck i went in the 19 lap sure of my 8 position(out of 9 well understood )because while trying to reach Eddie i made another stupid mistake and got 8 secs behind and frank was 14 secs behind me...Alan lapped me as usual(i hope didn't cause trouble at least tryed not to) and after entering the last lap after doing the uphill Le Rouge i caught Alan's car (drove by the computer of course thought i didn't reallize that immediatly) at 30 km and couldn't avoid a big crash into is rear with both cars spinning glued toghether from one side to another... the first thing on my mind was -oh Alan is going to hate me for this and kill me after the race ends when finally became aware that he lapped me so the race was over for him and he wasn't driving is car anymore...Franck got me in the process of reentering the track and also couldn't avoid bashing lightly into Alans car now controlled by the STUPID AI...but got trought and finished ahead of me.

I only want to leave 3 final notes:

*Salute Ben for joining us in these events and the weekly pratice sessions who i much apreciate playing with by is kindness and correction towards other racers-that said i think Ben was,like myself in the earlier events victim of the excitment of the newcomers and made a few mistakes particculary in the 1st race that were also prejudicial to others myself included but the truth is the two times he rammed me(unadvertly i'm tottally sure of that) off the track he waited just ahead until i recovered my position...👍

*To you Mario who have to carry the responsability of putting the portuguese flag in the podium since me and Bulli obviously can't take matters into our own hands-DON'T MISS THE NEXT EVENT-and bring hartur allong who seems to be a good acquisition to the portuguese colours

*And finnaly and after giving it some thought to you new-soul:
I figure you must be young and wild which is perfectable normal,you have being improving your driving skills from event to event and you've reached the top CONGRATULATIONS but ,and please take the following words like an advice and not as pure criticism, in one aspect you havent improved at all since the first event which you attended and that is the awereness of the other drivers-when like myself you are used to race against the computer or with collisions off like i always did in FC it takes time to adjust your driving manners to racing other humans with collisions on but you have to take an effortt in that direction and not only towards Jeff because he is the host but also with all other players in the lobby...a TOP player ,take Alan's example for instance, is not only faster than the others but also has a so perfect control of the car and the race incidencs that allows him to overtake other players without great embarassement to them because can also be faster in altenative racing lines and trajectorys adapting is driving to the obstaccles ahead like in R.L. so i think that if you really try you can manage to make your way to the top withouth bashing everyone out off your way in the process...I was thinking of telling you this since the last event you've attended in which i think you were 1st in the 1st race and commented after the race that it was a great race after bashing everyone out of you way until 1st place,in this one i think you were pushing too far your limits in riviera so i catched up with you a few times and you had to overtake me 2 or 3 times and in all of them you bashed into my rear pushed me out off your way on everyone of them,and the same happened in spa when you overtaked...👎 unless you want to turn these events into only top players allowance and racing 3 or 4 guys battling for victory you have to show us slower players some respect and not ramming us out of the way like you do with A.I cars.
I'm sure that if you want you can improve your skills in this aspect and i'm sure that you will realize that wil much more pleasent to you and to others:tup:

 

[eddietrout]

Just as a reminder, if everybody could post or at least PM me the results from Riviera, I'd appreciate it. Did anybody actually get the final results screen or just their own position or neither? This is all I know so far.

1. AlanG
2. ChilledAnt
3.
4.
5. New_Soul
6.
7. Shaggy_Alonso
8. SimcoeAce (Biggles)
9. jjaisli
10.
11. Drivatar
12.
13. Bullie77
14. Snazy20

put me down for 12th place although i did have a coming together with drivatar down the back strait that spun me out. although i was driving with in car view and had all my hud except map turned off i knew he was close but not where abouts. i was getting squeezed in the tighter left right section and contact was made and i span out. was just a little careless on his part i feel.

 

[eddietrout]

well as far as spa goes a poor race by me. set of at the front thanks to all for the first hill no contact at all was a little slow through it and over cautious at top of hill and drooped places, with more places drooped the rest of the lap. was on my own most of race till i was passed by a quick firedshot, jj had a poor race like me full of silly mistakes i think, passed him after a poor 1st hill and made a gap for myself, but to-wards the end with poor driving from me he got the place back, i was pushing to had and made 1 mistake after another and dropping back, so eased off for the 7th place, got blue flagged at the end to let Allan through, but i must give praise to slower drivers of how well they moved over under blue flags and i never had a problem with the few that i passed, so thanks to them,

 

[Hun200kmh]

*To you Mario who have to carry the responsability of putting the portuguese flag in the podium since me and Bulli obviously can't take matters into our own hands-DON'T MISS THE NEXT EVENT-and bring hartur allong who seems to be a good acquisition to the portuguese colours

LOL, don't be modest, it's all a question of practise. Thx for the compliments anyway.

About hartur , he is a funny guy. He is probably - and by far - the oldest SCC player in the world, and he is in fact one of the persons that taught me how to drive, both in real cars (his green FIAT 127 will always have a special place in my heart) and "game cars", back in the 80's (Indy 500 by Papyrus, the original Microprose Grand Prix, and before those a F1 game whose name I don't remember but the exec file was named GPEGA).

Later, in the nineties, he entered online racing with the game he still loves the most (Grand Prix Legends) and he was one of the most skilled racers I ever saw racing with those old F1 cars. First game-wheel I ever saw was also his.

In the PS2 he was an absolute Enthusia fan, then he got a PS3 and played F1:CE for a long time, before and after the release of GT5P. Now, he is playing SCC and he is already fast enough for someone with so litle experience in the game.

But ... he doesn't understand a thing about PCs and PS3 (it was always his kids, my nephews, that created the setups he used) so if by chance you send him friend's requests it's not probable that you'll receive a reply. He simply doesn't know what to do with the PS3 apart from playing games

Last time I visited him in person I accepted lots of friend requests for him, mainly from F1:CE folks he met online. But he lives in the north (Guimarães) so I don't visit him that often.

Anyway, I guess you can tell, I like this guy ... a lot!

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

I have to appologise by the bump at La Source but iwas also pushed from behind by Ben)

Ahh dear, sorry Miguel. I'm not sure I remember this incident as bumping into an opponent on the approach to La Source is such a common feature of my racing

It was probably thoughtlessness on my part but also not being that familiar with the braking points (I usually have the braking zone switched on). Although I'm not sure I remember the incident, I'm glad I waited on you.

*Salute Ben for joining us in these events and the weekly pratice sessions who i much apreciate playing with by is kindness and correction towards other racers-that said i think Ben was,like myself in the earlier events victim of the excitment of the newcomers and made a few mistakes particculary in the 1st race that were also prejudicial to others myself included but the truth is the two times he rammed me(unadvertly i'm tottally sure of that) off the track he waited just ahead until i recovered my position...👍

I remember the time at Riviera. In that case it was coming up the the braking point at the end of the high speed section towards the end of the lap. I remember everyone seemingly having completely different braking points for that corner and I was caught out that time.

In the first two laps both at Spa and Riviera especially, I was rammed a few times (albeit not completely off the track) and I just put it down to first lap madness on a tight street circuit with a big pack of cars. For that reason, I really don't bother on blaming anyone that early in the race and just give people the benefit of the doubt, unless it's a totally blatant act. But the whole experience was exciting. Even the warm up lap before the qualifying lap was cool I thought

 

[Alan_G]

Later, in the nineties, he entered online racing with the game he still loves the most (Grand Prix Legends) and he was one of the most skilled racers I ever saw racing with those old F1 cars.

Ah Grand Prix Legends! What a game. I would say it's the all-round greatest racing simulation ever. Well ahead of its time.

 

[arvore]

LOL, don't be modest, it's all a question of practise. Thx for the compliments anyway.

About hartur , he is a funny guy. He is probably - and by far - the oldest SCC player in the world, and he is in fact one of the persons that taught me how to drive, both in real cars (his green FIAT 127 will always have a special place in my heart) and "game cars", back in the 80's (Indy 500 by Papyrus, the original Microprose Grand Prix, and before those a F1 game whose name I don't remember but the exec file was named GPEGA).

Later, in the nineties, he entered online racing with the game he still loves the most (Grand Prix Legends) and he was one of the most skilled racers I ever saw racing with those old F1 cars. First game-wheel I ever saw was also his.

In the PS2 he was an absolute Enthusia fan, then he got a PS3 and played F1:CE for a long time, before and after the release of GT5P. Now, he is playing SCC and he is already fast enough for someone with so litle experience in the game.

But ... he doesn't understand a thing about PCs and PS3 (it was always his kids, my nephews, that created the setups he used) so if by chance you send him friend's requests it's not probable that you'll receive a reply. He simply doesn't know what to do with the PS3 apart from playing games

Last time I visited him in person I accepted lots of friend requests for him, mainly from F1:CE folks he met online. But he lives in the north (Guimarães) so I don't visit him that often.

Anyway, I guess you can tell, I like this guy ... a lot!

Not far from me-Vila do conde-so i might trade some XMB for driving lessons(for me well understood) Anyway he as to be a skilled racer because with so much little time in the game he pulled a very respectfull lap time in SPA without any assists default settings and racing online-it's easier at least for me to do nice laps in time trial