Scenery Accuracy??

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foolio
Laguna Seca is pretty impressive. I spent a lap looking left into the infield parking areas and I noticed a lot of detail in there. Skip barber trucks, concession stands, etc.
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I like all of the Biffy toilets all around that track..funny
 
SO DOES THE NEW YORK TRACK HAVE VIDEO PLAYING ON THE TIMES SQUARE BIG SCREEN?




Sorry about the caps, I just want someone to see my question! :D
 
I would like to see them actually update models though. A city course is supposed to be in THE city, not a past version of it. The king dome has been gone for a really long time... it should be out of there. O well.
 
smellysocks12
SO DOES THE NEW YORK TRACK HAVE VIDEO PLAYING ON THE TIMES SQUARE BIG SCREEN?




Sorry about the caps, I just want someone to see my question! :D
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You're talking about Times Square I think. There isn't really any video...just a couple bigs screens with images of some kind fading in and out. And the scrolling text is illegible.
 
Johnhannibal
Haha, are the WTC in the New York course?
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Johnhannibal
Don't take it personal.
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You've got a real talent for making things personal. Watch your step or I'll give you something else to resent Americans about.

To Kikie: thanks for the attempt to civilize him, but I fear you're wasting your words. I applaud the effort, however. One must always try...
 
Personally I don't care if the scenery is 100% accurate, as long as it's a fair represention nature wise.

However, things that are specifically related to the track, i.e. Width, Length, Camber, Gradients, Corner Radius, Pit Lane, Towers and Grandstands etc should be as accurate as possible...

Afterall we drive the track and not the surroundings...
 
Being a self-proclaimed expert on Route 246, I noticed that they cleaned up quite a bit of the course to make it even more realistic than before. See my website at: http://www.sotobori.com/route246b/index.htm for my GT3 pictures. These pictures were taken a few years ago but I was just back there a few months ago and very little has changed in terms of scenery. The most improved parts are near Meiji Kinenkan at the Gondawara intersection (see: http://www.sotobori.com/route246b/image032.htm ) and also see: http://www.meijikinenkan.gr.jp/english/access/index.html for the real map of the area.

The dip after the Meiji Kinenkan (see: http://www.sotobori.com/route246b/image040.htm ) is much more pronounced in GT4 than it was in GT3 now, too.

Route 246 starts on Aoyama Dori in the heart of Akasaka which is where Yamauchi-san and company have their building and do their magic so I suspect that this course probably gets more attention than any other in the game. I've walked this course twice now and it is still surreal to me. A previous company I worked for used to have their Tokyo headquarters office a few blocks from Route 246 (Aoyama Dori) in Akasaka so I became very familiar with this area prior to playing GT. I started to notice very familiar things about the course such as the New Otani Hotel, Akasaka Tokyu Hotel and Jungu and the National stadiums and I said to myself, "hey, I know that area," and then I scoured my atlas and figured out the course. Since I go to Tokyo a few times a year, I figured I'd confirm the course and take pictures.

The other courses in Tokyo/Yokohama (route 5 and route 11?) are much more problematic because you can't walk the Shuto Ko (Shuto Expressway) so it would be very expensive and time-consuming to use a taxi to try to figure out those courses.
 
The scenery and tracks are amazing, my mom told me (while watching me play) that if she didnt know better, she would have though it was a movie. I enjoy a game where I can recognize my surroundings from their real-world counterparts. I think my favorite things are the sun and the skies.




One thing about Laguna Seca though, there is a lot of unfinished side barriers. In one corner you can clearly see into the 'void' of blackness. Another part of the barrier seems unfinished- after the ~2nd turn on the right side, the barrier steps about 10' back, and you can clearly see behind the first row (and it isnt pretty).

I would much rather have some problems in the track barriers than a game altering thing.
 
smellysocks12
It's gotta be either that or Belgian.
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he said he was belgian. belgium has dutch AND french as their (official?) languages.
 
GT40racer
kikie are you dutch?
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If you mean by Dutch, from Holland?? No, I am not. I'm Belgian but dutch is the first naional language in Belgium and French is the second!!!!

About 60 to 65% is Dutch speaking and I believe 30% is French and only a few % is German.

Stupid country is you ask me. (I always like to flame myself, lol)
 
I think it's cool that they have ads for other game companies just to keep things accurate. I've seen ads for Namco and Konami, both of whom have products that compete/will compete with GT4.
 
meat_whistle
Why would he need to be careful with such remarks? I'm american, and I'd love to see those buildings in this game. I realize that someone else said that it's the wrong part of town, but what if it wasn't? Would it really offend someone to see them there?
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I was just thinking about the tragedy, for you guys to be reminded about it!!! That is all, I was just trying to help. I'll keep my comments to myself, in the future, if that is what you want!!

No offence intended!!

Duke
To Kikie: thanks for the attempt to civilize him, but I fear you're wasting your words. I applaud the effort, however. One must always try...
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Thanks
 
smellysocks12
You mean they will sell new car models and new tracks to owners of GT5. This exact reason is why Massive Multiplayer Online games have the players paying 15 bucks every month to be able to continue playing.
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MMORPGs don't make any money on the game. They have to make their money off the subscription.

GT5 should be 90-10. 90% revenue on the game. 10% on online stuff.

If I were them, I'd sell packs of 20-30 cars for $5 or a handful of tracks for $3-5.

As for online, XBox is $50 a year for ~100 games. If GT4 were $20-30 a year for online, I think that'd be reasonable if it included X new tracks and X new cars sometime during the year. Maybe that's the answer. The GT4 Online disc is free and it gives you better LAN play. But to play online, you have to subscribe to a $20/yr or $40 lifetime online fee or something.
 
KENJIusa
you'd better be careful with what you're saying jackass.
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Would someone please explain to me why they get offended when someone asks if the WTC towers are in the game? I don't, and would have loved to see them there.
 
cultfreak69
did anyone notice in Times Square.. the big red billboard is Budweiser. they kinda covered ub the bottom half of the "B" with a bottles and the label is kinda blurry. In the Photo mode you can see it pretty well. I am offended that they would put a beer logo in a video game (just kidding I prefer Miller anyhow) :dopey:
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I'm not sure, but I bet the Asian versions have an un-edited ad. Their version had Jack Daniels ads on Infineon that are not in the NA version. (see attachment) 👎
I want those ads :)

-p3
 

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meat_whistle
Would someone please explain to me why they get offended when someone asks if the WTC towers are in the game? I don't, and would have loved to see them there.
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I had searched out this thread to see if anyone else had thoughts on the King Dome still being in the game, but I felt compelled to answer your question m_w.

I think the reason people are upset is the fact that Johnhannibal began his question with "Haha,..." If he had instead said something like, "Has anyone noticed a tribute to the WTC?" or, "Is the memory of the WTC honored in GT4?", I'm guessing he wouldn't have gotten the negative feedback. It's all in the presentation.
 
eVox
The scenery and tracks are amazing, my mom told me (while watching me play) that if she didnt know better, she would have though it was a movie. I enjoy a game where I can recognize my surroundings from their real-world counterparts. I think my favorite things are the sun and the skies.




One thing about Laguna Seca though, there is a lot of unfinished side barriers. In one corner you can clearly see into the 'void' of blackness. Another part of the barrier seems unfinished- after the ~2nd turn on the right side, the barrier steps about 10' back, and you can clearly see behind the first row (and it isnt pretty).

I would much rather have some problems in the track barriers than a game altering thing.
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I have to say the laguna seca track does seem less polished than most of the other tracks, it seems to lack the detailed textures other tracks have to
 
I don't know how many on here are X-Boxers, but on the new Mechwarrior 2 (name?), there is a one track demo of Forza: Motorsport. The track is Laguna Seca and it looks ver nice. I was wondering what some of you racing officianados might think of the accuracy in this version of the track.
 
kikie
niet grappig om zo een pijnlijk iets uit de Amerikaanse geschiedenis terug te vermelden!!!! Pas maar op met zulke opmerkingen

I just told him to be carefull with such remarks.
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i think us americans and our belgian friend here are a bit lost in translation...
i think the "ha ha" part was about the king dome comment from the post above it, and the wtc question was just a side comment... I doubt he was laughing about wtc, there's absolutely nothing remotely funny about it, whether you're from this country or not. alles goed man, alles goed. I mean, he's got to know if he was joking about 2000 of our friends and family dying, we'd all have to fly over to antwerp or brugges or wherever the hell he's from and beat his flemish a$$ down, right? (i'll buy the plane tickets)
 
kikie
If you mean by Dutch, from Holland?? No, I am not. I'm Belgian but dutch is the first naional language in Belgium and French is the second!!!!

About 60 to 65% is Dutch speaking and I believe 30% is French and only a few % is German.

Stupid country is you ask me. (I always like to flame myself, lol)
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belgium is way too good at making beer for you to be making fun of it! for years i've been searching for a u.s. importer of palm beer (which i guess to you guys is nothing special-- as common as budwieser to us!) with no luck! aside from maybe that hannibal guy, I love the belgians. don't knock em because they don't have a single unified language.... that's what the swiss are for!! god bless your trappist monks! god bless duvel!



but i must say, i don't care too much for the gillet vertigo, though. :lol:
 

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