Score one for the ricers.

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I discovered today...

Integra Type R + Stage 1 turbo > Z06 Corvette, Camaro SS, Mustang and Viper

I noticed this when i tried the Beginner League stars and stripes race in Acura Integra with 251 HP and normal tires.

How is this possible!?! 4 cyl. beats 8 and 10!? FF beats FR? My mind is boggled...
 
You can win series in a mini, well a fully tuned one.

And what's wrong with an Integra? it's one of the best FF track cars around.

Also you forget that the AI is incredibly crap.
 
How is it a ricer?

Also. Its highly possible for a tuned car to beat cars that usually out class it, if you're a good enough driver and tuner.
 
Yeah what is it with people using the term ricer. Use it for what it's there for, but don't just use it for anything. "Oh god, Hondas are rice". You suck.
 
I suggest you go back and watch the replay. The AI's power is handicapped when in beginner mode. You'll notice that the AI throttle never gets past 75%.

Also, the AI are aren't exactly spectacular when it comes to racing, especially in beginner mode.

AO
 
Who was the guy who could beat the GTOne- 787b R390 etc with a fully tuned Tegra R?
 
I think you don't know the definition of ricer. If you're installing turbos and the like, you're not a ricer. If you're installing stickers, body kits, lowering, and large chrome exhaust tips, you're a ricer.

HUGE difference. Racers give performance. Ricers give the APPEARANCE of performance.
 
Hah, try racing me with your integra stage 1, and I'll take the viper...you'll be treated to a short blast of v10 exhaust, and then just the fsssssss of you own engine as you stuggle to keep up with the dot in the distance....
 
MistaY
Who was the guy who could beat the GTOne- 787b R390 etc with a fully tuned Tegra R?

Me. Amongst others. It was a race set by this board for the 9 Boards Challenge 2...

I can get a Toyota Yaris (Vitz), fully tuned, to beat a Dodge Viper GTS on T5 Medium tyres (both driven by me) around SSR11 Reverse. That's quite good fun, actually.
 
Famine
Me. Amongst others. It was a race set by this board for the 9 Boards Challenge 2...

I can get a Toyota Yaris (Vitz), fully tuned, to beat a Dodge Viper GTS on T5 Medium tyres (both driven by me) around SSR11 Reverse. That's quite good fun, actually.

So do you use two controllers at the same time? :D
Damn you Famine, being better than me at this game! I don't know how you managed the PD cup and the Trial mountain enduro with the Tegra. I can't even do it with the VX220.
 
Famine
Me. Amongst others. It was a race set by this board for the 9 Boards Challenge 2...

I can get a Toyota Yaris (Vitz), fully tuned, to beat a Dodge Viper GTS on T5 Medium tyres (both driven by me) around SSR11 Reverse. That's quite good fun, actually.
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Well wow I guess... I dunno... I never bothered to go against such odds but then again... I'm not too big a fan of FF cars (but given all this talk and other thoughts in my head I may actually bother to try them on some searous level (again) when I get my hands on GT3 in a few weeks...) but admire them for what they are I guess. Sorry if that failed to make any sense...

To try and say something more relevant...


Der Alta
I suggest you go back and watch the replay. The AI's power is handicapped when in beginner mode. You'll notice that the AI throttle never gets past 75%.

Also, the AI are aren't exactly spectacular when it comes to racing, especially in beginner mode.

AO

I'd have to agree, the AI is not exactly a hard opponet once you figure how to drive as fast as you can around a given course. Unless their car is more powerfull by a large margin, maybe then you could start to worry, but for the most part they can be more or less dominated. Begnner mode is very...very easy... it was the case of a better driver, a much, better driver or so I figured, but something tells me by now wellyrm that you've figured that out. Der Alta Famine and a few others more or less have said what's needed to be said too.

As for the term ricer, it's more on emphasis on show than go. As Socahota said, Ricer's are usually an generally having cars that look too much better than they could be dreamed to perform of, but the only certain way to tell is to 1- maybe take a look at what's under the hood and 2- see how it actually performs on track, given a dragstrip, oval or road course.
The Integra DC2 by no means can really be called a ricer unless it has overdone external changes al La Fast and Furious (apologies to any and all fans of the said movie serries) or Need for Speed Undeground (am I the only one to have noticed in one of their earlier games, High Stakes, there was a 'ricer' and a 993 Porshe 911 turbo at the start.. the 911 turbo got away on the start and the 'ricer' broke down before it got a foot...and look a few years later...isn't it funny even a little?...) or even worse somehow.
Calling the DC2 or even an EG (or earlier like a CRX) is kinda unfair unless you can see what it can do on the track given the driver and to what kind of tuning it's underwent if any, then one can define if it's a 'ricer' or not, it really depends. The driver however in the end is usually the biggest factor, if he/she can push that car like hell and know it's limits, given it's on a specefic course, the opponet car makes little difference unless it's the kind of machine one would know you could not defeat if the driver of THAT car knows just his/hers as well as your car (even the Escudo can corner well if you know what to do with it...I saw Gabkicks do it on Complex string and I will want to try myself if I ever get a chance...and maybe try a EG while I'm at it...), even then you'll never know till you race.

If noting else, you went against the AI on a preaty crappy strengh, a challenge maybe would be going against a similar set of cars on Amatuer or Professional leauge, I tried a rally race with a Trueno 86 on Tahaiti Maze with 245 bhp against a Lan evo 7 rally car...I think it was either medium or hard difficulty (3 or 5 laps I think...) and it was fun, challenging and a little fustrating but it enforced a bit more of what I already knew and my skills are a little more better. Point is, it's possible to beat a higher powered car if you're a better driver and the AI is not the sharpest of tolls and it dosen't make much a differnece what car it is...not too much...

I guess I said too much... hope I made an actuall relevant point...

Till later...
 
wellyrn
I discovered today...

Integra Type R + Stage 1 turbo > Z06 Corvette, Camaro SS, Mustang and Viper

I noticed this when i tried the Beginner League stars and stripes race in Acura Integra with 251 HP and normal tires.

How is this possible!?! 4 cyl. beats 8 and 10!? FF beats FR? My mind is boggled...
I did that before for fun and won too. This is why: Look at your replay and check the A.I.s throttle. They're not even giving it full throttle and they drive like hell. 👎
 
98cobra
I did that before for fun and won too. This is why: Look at your replay and check the A.I.s throttle. They're not even giving it full throttle and they drive like hell. 👎
Did you read the thread? DA said the same thing earlier.

Der Alta
I suggest you go back and watch the replay. The AI's power is handicapped when in beginner mode. You'll notice that the AI throttle never gets past 75%.

Also, the AI are aren't exactly spectacular when it comes to racing, especially in beginner mode.

AO
 
Where I live people call turboed and tuned 4 cyls. rice rockets or rice cookers. Im not an anti-ricer.

My skill isn't the issue, im sure 90% of you could win the same race. I was shocked that an Integra with JUST a turbo upgrade is so good. I even beat the cobra. Worse than that the 'TEG' with the upgrade cost less than the worst of the american cars (the SS), 1/2 of the vettes and 1/3 of the viper.

Also this adds to my belief that FF is underrated. I was gaining on them in the corners after all.
 
donbenni
Yeah what is it with people using the term ricer. Use it for what it's there for, but don't just use it for anything. "Oh god, Hondas are rice". You suck.
Yeah I kinda get a bit pissed off when people see a Honda and say they all suck just becuase they saw some 17 or 18 year old kid with a "hooked up" Civic there are other Honda's out there people that are better then a damn Civic for ex a Accord ex v6 really nice car also a S2000 or a Honda CR-V or a Pilot they are all good cars/SUVs IMO.

*EDIT* Oh I almost forgot to mention that the Honda Oddessy is the best Mini-van out there! I give it a 10/10
 
I used a Tureno or Corolla on Complex String and beat my brother's Mines skyline
 
wellyrn
I was shocked that an Integra with JUST a turbo upgrade is so good. I even beat the cobra. Worse than that the 'TEG' with the upgrade cost less than the worst of the american cars (the SS), 1/2 of the vettes and 1/3 of the viper.

Also this adds to my belief that FF is underrated. I was gaining on them in the corners after all.
I'm not surprised at your story. This car is one of the most well mannered cars in the game, FF or not. The first time I drove this, even as an Arcade car, I was impressed, too. Glad you like it...

As for FF being "underrated", the clock doesn't lie.

Cheers,

MasterGT
 
In responce to a couple of the people who put wildly mismatched races on this thread, I once took a completely maxed out suzuki alto works (about 230 HP) and raced it in the rally leauges SS Route 5 reverse wet against the concept impreza rally car and one by about 2 seconds. that was a long time ago, like in late 02' and ive gotten alot better since then.
 
That's and this thread is as funny as Twin Turbo Jay saying... "Control is nothing without POWER !!!" :dopey:👍
 
Integra huh~ I beat skylines with a fully tuned Mini on hard mode...... (There is a big hp difference even with the full tune)... I'm not a good driver so... The computer sucks!! Simple as that...
BTW it is fun beating High powered cars with weak ones because it is more of a challenge... To bad there is no option to pick the AI opponent cars... :ouch:
 
Sohcahtoa
I think you don't know the definition of ricer. If you're installing turbos and the like, you're not a ricer. If you're installing stickers, body kits, lowering, and large chrome exhaust tips, you're a ricer.

HUGE difference. Racers give performance. Ricers give the APPEARANCE of performance.

Does that mean some race cars are ricers? Minus the crome rims. :yuck:

Apparently the definition of ricer is: All show, but no go. :)
 
Famine
Me. Amongst others. It was a race set by this board for the 9 Boards Challenge 2...

I can get a Toyota Yaris (Vitz), fully tuned, to beat a Dodge Viper GTS on T5 Medium tyres (both driven by me) around SSR11 Reverse. That's quite good fun, actually.
Damn you are too good for us Famine. :lol:

radicool02
Does that mean some race cars are ricers? Minus the crome rims. :yuck:

Apparently the definition of ricer is: All show, but no go. :)

:lol: nice definition!
 
Have a crack at it. It's a good laugh.

Dodge Viper GTS. Standard, but with T5 Medium racing tyres. Hotlap of SSR11 Reverse.
Toyota Yaris/Vitz 1.5RS, fully tuned (294hp). Hotlap of SSR11 Reverse.

The Yaris will come out marginally quicker. I was going to have a crack with T6s on the Viper, but never got around to it. It's a great laugh if you use the Viper's ghost too - it just vanishes into the distance on the start line... :D
 
radicool02
Does that mean some race cars are ricers? Minus the crome rims. :yuck:

Apparently the definition of ricer is: All show, but no go. :)
Don't forget ugly as hell when it ain't done right.
 
Full tuned Lancer with SIMULATION tires on Arcade Mode Easy is my favorite "fun race". Try to catch that 787B! : :scared: Second place is the best I've done.

The term "ricer" as far as I know came from the tiny japanese 4 cyl. engines being called "rice cookers" by north americans before the import scene exploded.
 
Is there a thread for people to show the cars that they actually own? Here is how most people differ between ricer and racer.

Ricer is the first picture, no show NOR go. And racer... well, drifter, is the second and third pictures, subtlety outside (unless you're a pro SCCA racer) and lots of go inside.

I don't know who owns the first car but the second car (the black one) is mine and the motor is an SR20DET that I just swapped into it, hence the question above...
 

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I've seen the car in the first one.

People who honestly see that car as rice need to look up "sarcasm" and "parody" in the dictionary. He is OBVIOUSLY making fun of the real ricers out there. I've thought about modding my car like that. exhaust tip over 8 inches across, a sticker from every performance company there is (Neuspeed, TRD, Greddy, whatever else I can think of), Type R, V-TEC, the works.

My problem with ricers is that they honestly think they have a fast car, not the mods themselves. I wouldn't care about all the stupid things they do if it weren't for the fact that they think their Civic is the shiznit because its got an exhaust tip bigger than my arm and it sounds like a weed-eater.
 
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