Sebastian Vettel may join Red Bull early.

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As a bump, does anyone now get the feeling a Team Red Bull seat is now a step backwards? Honestly, if you'd asked me six months ago, I would have said: "No."

So one year in the Red Bull seat, then the contract is broken so Vettel can go to ____ (fill in the blank).
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Not really, Toro Rosso are being sold next year and their future can't be predicted. Red Bull has not been that bad overall, Webber has managed some great qualifications and classifications as far as his luck and skill seem to go anyway. Coulthard has just lost it, he's battling Honda's and Williams for position....
Anyway, the RDB4 is a good car and they are a good team. Just because both their drivers seem incapable of finishing in decent positions consistently doesn't mean the team is worse than STR.

If I recall correctly, the problems the RBRs have had is with setups and engine power. Things that can be easily rectified.

Still, in the case that Vettel does feel like going to another team, I reckon pretty much every team in the paddock will gladly pick him up depending on their driver rosters at the time. McLaren, Ferrari, BMW Sauber and Toyota already have solid driver line-ups that will likely stick for a few years still. Everyone else is a mystery but I feel Red Bull will improve next year with Vettel behind the wheel and may become a title contender perhaps.
 
Hmmm out of all the teams that will have a space in '10 for a driver, McLaren and BMW Sauber are currently the fastest. I can see Mario getting Seb backfor BMW however if Red Bull for some reason or another let him slip through their fingers.
 
Point in case about Red Bull having nothing wrong with them and it being down to drivers:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/9/8403.html

Unofficial Wednesday times from Jerez:
1. Christian Klien, BMW Sauber, 1:19.537
2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:19.878
3. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 1:20.209
4. Gary Paffett, McLaren, 1:20.602
5. Kamui Kobayashi, Toyota, 1:20.579
6. Lucas di Grassi, Renault, 1:20.853
7. Alexander Wurz, Honda, 1:21.123
8. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 1:23.171

Unofficial Thursday times from Jerez:
1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:18.001
2. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 1:18.167
3. Lucas di Grassi, Renault, 1:18.999
4. Pedro de la Rosa, McLaren, 1:19.281
5. Alexander Wurz, Honda, 1:19.499
6. Takuma Sato, Toro Rosso, 1:19.574
7. Kamui Kobayashi, Toyota, 1:19.863
8. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 1:21.892
 
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WTF? Is Nakajima really that slow, or is he testing the new 09 aero parts during that test session? Anyways, Vettel is kicking ass in that last session. :D
 
Ardius
Point in case about Red Bull having nothing wrong with them and it being down to drivers:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/9/8403.html
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I know it soundsun-patriotic of me to say this, but Mark Webber is one of the most over-rated drivers in the sport at the moment. He has his moments when he comes up with something excellent, but he's a fading star when everyone else who has been in the sport as long as he has is burning brightly. As for DC, he's past it. He should have retired at the end of last year.
Muzaffar Musa
WTF? Is Nakajima really that slow, or is he testing the new 09 aero parts during that test session? Anyways, Vettel is kicking ass in that last session. :D
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Yes. I thought he'd proved that by now. Unfortunately, he's a part of Williams' engine deal with Toyota: they wanted a Japanese driver in a team that had a name to it.
 
Do you race?
I know it soundsun-patriotic of me to say this, but Mark Webber is one of the most over-rated drivers in the sport at the moment. He has his moments when he comes up with something excellent, but he's a fading star when everyone else who has been in the sport as long as he has is burning brightly. As for DC, he's past it. He should have retired at the end of last year.
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Thats the point I was trying to make - Red Bull's poor performance this year is down to the drivers and not the team or the car. Vettel isn't "stepping down"...he is quite clearly stepping up to a team with a lot of potential still, at least as much as going to Renault and Toyota.
 
Ardius
Thats the point I was trying to make - Red Bull's poor performance this year is down to the drivers and not the team or the car. Vettel isn't "stepping down"...he is quite clearly stepping up to a team with a lot of potential still, at least as much as going to Renault and Toyota.
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Seems more of a latteral move in terms of performance potential of the cars this season. Next season will be different and I see RBR as being the safer bet due to the possibility of STR being sold.
 
Vettel was over 1.6 seconds faster drivng the Red Bull yesterday than he was in the STR today.

Covered twice as many laps in the STR as well, 93 to the Red Bulls 35.
 
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