Should there be license tests for NASCAR?

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Mayby doing a proper pit stop, where you must hit pit road speeds with timelines, hitting the right pit box with 43 other cars on pit lane, all while being timed.
 
Earth
Funny that so many people are claiming that NASCAR is boring and requires no skill, yet I'm quite sure they think WRC is super exciting and requires probably the most skill, but tell me why does the WRC thread have just 80 replies, while the main NASCAR thread has 300 replies and the other two NASCAR threads in the GT5 forum have 100 replies combined?
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Because NASCAR is new to the GT world, and GT has had WRC cars in tthe game since rally was put in. And The subject of NASCAR is something that really would start a huge discussion better than WRC would because of all the questions about how it would work out.
 
PJ-FFL
Because NASCAR is new to the GT world, and GT has had WRC cars in tthe game since rally was put in. And The subject of NASCAR is something that really would start a huge discussion better than WRC would because of all the questions about how it would work out.
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well, i remember having a Nascar Taurus Sho in GT2, so weve had nascar too. maybe not as wrc but it had been there.💡
 
This is the first time for NASCAR in the game in Europe. Plus rallying has always been rubbish in GT.
 
Earth
Funny that so many people are claiming that NASCAR is boring and requires no skill, yet I'm quite sure they think WRC is super exciting and requires probably the most skill, but tell me why does the WRC thread have just 80 replies, while the main NASCAR thread has 300 replies and the other two NASCAR threads in the GT5 forum have 100 replies combined?

That's right, beause the sport is ultra popular and fun for many reasons. And as EERS4YEARS said in another thread, like it or not, online the NASCAR races will have the most consistent and largest grids, and for good reason
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Popularity doesn't mean quality, WRC is actually a pretty bad spectator sport mostly because it doesn't use circuits except in Special Stages.

I hope we don't see this for the rest of the year, I'd rather not read through yet another argument about the skill or lack thereof in NASCAR or how people feel its boring. But I guess thats a slim hope.

Personally, its not as brilliant as some say but nor is it that bad. The series gets little to no coverage overhere and I see it more like how American Football is for me - I'm not interested not because I think its boring or requires less skill but because it never hit off overhere and that its based in the USA.

For me, NASCAR is about equal to V8 Supercars or DTM, a national series that I have little interest in mainly because they are limited to being national. I want all 3 in the game, and I enjoy all 3 to some extent, but they aren't at the top of my favourite motorsports.
 
amar212
If anyone from Europe wants to quickly find out wht is he true magic of Nascar he should play great PS2 game "From Dirt to Daytona".

It covers the sport from the lower leagues to very Nascar through Carrer mode and you soon find out that there is so much more there than the usual "Nascar prejudce".

Despite some minor flaws it is still the greatest Nascar game ever made and it made me an instant Nascar beleiver despite initial scepticism.
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I'm still not a fan of NASCAR... but NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona was and still is a brilliant racing game, as was it's predecessor, NASCAR Heat 2002. Unfortunately EA then bought the exclusive license to NASCAR which forced Monster Games to quit making their NASCAR series. 👎
 
Same with Nsacar Racing by Papyrus, fantastic Nascar game (sim) which EA ruined with their exclusive license. Now they're back with iracing.
 
chepu
well, i remember having a Nascar Taurus Sho in GT2, so weve had nascar too. maybe not as wrc but it had been there.💡
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You cant call a 380 HP Ford Taurus a NASCAR, it looked like one, but thats it.
 
Zuel
And for the one that live in Down Unda that had a chance to do the V8SuperCar ride know the same thing.
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V8 Supercars aren't tremendously heavy. From memory about 1300kg (the street cars they are based off are 1600kg+, but they aren't very closely related).

If there's a hard lisence test for NASCAR then I probably wont have the motivation to finish it :p In the TOCA series, NASCAR series were always my most hated and I avoided them when I could. Its not that they dont require skill, they do, its just that its a form of racing I have no interest in competing in. However, I love this song :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LLvfpGpEyg

(sorry, I dont know how to make the video embedded ;))
 
WolfRacer543
V8 Supercars aren't tremendously heavy. From memory about 1300kg (the street cars they are based off are 1600kg+, but they aren't very closely related).

If there's a hard lisence test for NASCAR then I probably wont have the motivation to finish it :p In the TOCA series, NASCAR series were always my most hated and I avoided them when I could. Its not that they dont require skill, they do, its just that its a form of racing I have no interest in competing in. However, I love this song :D :D

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In the TOCA series, NASCAR series were always my most hated and I avoided them when I could. Its not that they dont require skill, they do, its just that its a form of racing I have no interest in competing in.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion without being disrespectful against NASCAR drivers! 👍

See guys, this is how you do it, not with "NASCAR is stupid you only drive in circles and it doesnt require skill".

Im serious.
 
G.T.Ace
Thanks for sharing your opinion without being disrespectful against NASCAR drivers! 👍

See guys, this is how you do it, not with "NASCAR is stupid you only drive in circles and it doesnt require skill".

Im serious.
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+1:tup:
 
This is my problem I am not a huge nascar car fan i only watch it on Sportscenter, however im not going to bash it either for the fact of im not into it. I will say this though i wasnt into F1 either until i played GT5P. When i first drove the F1 i was like :eek: this is serious! Now i find myself staying up til 3am to watch F1 lol. i can honestly say GT is the main reason i got into F1. Im glad Nascar is in GT, now i have the ability to try to get a better appreceation for Nascar 👍
 
I love reading this stuff. The reason I like Nascar games so much (not EA) is that its 85% set up and every track needs a totally different one. 3400 lb car, hard narrow tires, 850 hp, and a brick easy to drive? Again ask Montoya, Al jr. tried it back in the day (28 car), Hornish, Carpentier, Papis, on and on... wait until Danick Patrick IRL superstar tries it... backmarker. I was never a road race fan until I just got GT5p and now I'm hooked. Two different sports both great. By the way, I have had NASCAR licenses (short track weekly series)and have run limited late models at a few tracks in the north east as well as WKA dirt sprint karts. I'll make a bet that about anyone on here would be totally worn out after a 100 lap short track race. Anyone that gets into any racecar deserves alot of respect. Hopefully they will include Martinsville or Bristol... that takes lot of skill just to make it to the end of the race.
 
License tests for NASCAR should be racing. Not time trial. You could do time trials in a NASCAR car, but I doubt that would be anywhere near as fun as racing with other cars. Not to mention time trial times can and will be "much" slower than times achieved when drafting other cars during races. I would love to see license tests for NASCAR 👍
 
There probably will be some type of "testing" in the game to get you used to the mechanics and whatnot.

Aside from that, I'm growing annoyed of people flaming others because they don't like NASCAR and vice-versa. Speaking only for myself I can't stand the sport, it's covered way too frequently and it seems it's actually taken a lot of televised motorsports out of the game (I'm specifically talking about Speed here). Now, before anyone decides to say "I bet you've never even watched NASCAR, so, it's just another ignorant opinion." You'd be wrong, dead wrong in fact. I tried watching for a couple of months and I just never got anything out of it except a sense of speed and pretty much in every race....a sense of destruction.

In fact to be even further honest, I've fallen asleep on it at least twice but then again I've also fallen asleep on Formula 1 three or four times. :p

Will I enjoy the experience in GT5? Definitely.
Is it necessarily wrong that someone thinks NASCAR is boring because it's more or less similar every event? No.
Do you have to call someone ignorant without knowing the full story to their opinion (if there actually is one) Again, no.

Let's all just play the game and 🤬 each other up going 250+ :dopey:👍
 
I know this is old, but the OP brings up a good point. A lot of NASCAR haters or just plain non-followers really dont know the intricacy of the rules. I've been following NASCAR for a while now, and really didnt find it interesting until I learned the rules and found the races inside the race.

I'm sure there are alot of similar rules in other motorsports, but NASCAR has some of its own. Pitting rules, and speeds. Entry is 55 MPH on most tracks, 45 on some, and then 35 MPH on the Road Courses. Then there is the line rules.Cant pass below the yellow. Cant pass on the right on a restart before the finish line. There are some others, still on my first cup of coffee so I can think of everything.

If any one has any other NASCAR questions I'd be happy to try an answer them.
 
balang_479
Driving on straights???
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Figures you'd respond with a comment like that. Miller Motorsports Park, Lime Rock Park, Infineon Raceway, Circuit Gilles-Vleneuve,Autodromo De-Hermano Rodrigues and Watkins Glen are good examples that it isn't all "Driving in circles"
 
RACECAR
Contrary to you and everyone else's ignorant and ineducated statements, there's more to NASCAR then "Driving in circles".
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Ineducated? What?

Isn't most racing just driving in circles?

And I don't really see a reason for having Nascar specific tests, the same basic principals of racing apply to stock cars so why bother? I mean if you can take a corner in X car you probably have a pretty good idea on how to do it in Y car.
 
I'll be happy to have Sprint cup cars in the game, as a nascar fan it would be fun to try them out on big tracks like szuzuka the ring ect. BUT if we dont get non-symetrical set up options i dont want to see "NASCAR" series in GT. Mainly because theres no way to properly set the car up.

A lot of the nascar bashers dont realize that the fact that the cars only go left is what makes it harder to drive those cars. These cars run on the razorz edge every lap because they dont have to make all the compromises that a road racing car would have to make.
 
yes, there should be license tests for NASCAR, and they'd better not give bronze until you complete 5 laps without contact and finish better than your starting position..
 
What I would like, but odds are we wont see, are the NASCAR challenges like in the (piece of crud) EA games. Those are one of the ACTUAL FUN *GASP* parts of the EA games. You are put in a real life scenario, I.E. Ricky Craven battling Kurt Busch in Darlington in 03, and you have to either replicate the event or change it.
 
NASCAR is easy? NASCAR is boring?

I can answer in one word: Bristol.

Bristol is the NASCAR track I"m most looking forward to driving, and also the track I expect to cause me to swear and pull my hair out the most.
 
s2k2k3
NASCAR is easy? NASCAR is boring?

I can answer in one word: Bristol.

Bristol is the NASCAR track I"m most looking forward to driving, and also the track I expect to cause me to swear and pull my hair out the most.
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This is the one track I hope to see, (besides Talladegga), there is nothing like pulling laps at 14 secs, side by side with so many cars.
 
I'm an old fan, but I'm above calling others outfor negligence or idiocy. What makes me nearly weep is just the lack of insight and passion about the sport. NASCAR is all about taking it down to pure driver talent (and exploiting lack thereof). The cars are mere shells, they are all essentrially the same in weight, horsepower and aerodynamic efficiency. Yes, it 75% of the time goes in left turns. See you do it better. Drivers fight over 140º temperatures, the constant near 2-3g cornering force, and trying to look three different directions the same time for four hour clips and 500 times a circuit. Drivers often lose 10 to 15 pounds a race.

Blah, rant aside...

Would like to see the aforementioned draft challenge and a possible lap challenge. What I would really like to see? A few memorable cars through the ages, specifically the "Aero War" cars: The Daytona, the Superbird, and the Torino Cobra/Talladega. Also, I'm really hoping that these won't be like the dreaded Auto Union V16 car where it's only availiable for two tracks and useful for about... one. Maybe.


Cheers,
Jetboy
 
I don't think Nascar will have a specific license test as do the Rally. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Daytona 800pp almost the same experience as Nascar? I've had quiet a few times where I had to battle up to 4 cars on the long left turns, and if you're trying to be clean and such, thing was very intense. The point is, that a regular racing license should be enough to get us ready to race Nascar. I know nothing of Nascar so I may be wrong.
 

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