Show me a bump, and i'll show you a wall

[Bushby_23]

Could the Formula GT handle bumps any worse than it already does? Im trying to do the Seasonal at the Nurb, and the car will not track straight half the time. Ive tried stock settings, ive tried my own tunes, ive tried tunes from here, and nothing seems to be helping me. Is there anyway to make the thing actually take a bump with out shooting of into a wall?

 

[Thaddaeus]

drive smoother or use a kart first to get used to it.

 

[ghostrider135]

Have you considered raising the rideheight and then fiddling with the suspension.

 

[trk29]

I drive this car with stock suspension settings and don't have a problem.

 

[eran0004]

drive smoother or use a kart first to get used to it.

Yep, smooth driving is the key to the FGT (and to many of the LMP's). No need to go full throttle at all times, there's plenty of engine power to get the car around the track anyway.

So instead of looking for good settings, spend some time on a few practice laps and try to go perhaps 80% and then as you get to know the combination of car and track better you can start increasing the speed gradually until you find your edge.

 

[Bushby_23]

Have you considered raising the rideheight and then fiddling with the suspension.

Definately fiddled with the suspension (tried softer and harder settings)
, but havent played around with the ride hide to massive levels.

I drive this car with stock suspension settings and don't have a problem.

Your input is duly noted; would you perhaps like a cookie or a pat on the back as a reward?

Yep, smooth driving is the key to the FGT (and to many of the LMP's). No need to go full throttle at all times, there's plenty of engine power to get the car around the track anyway.

Ill admit, Im not the smotthest the world has ever seen, but I dont drive it really rough either.

 

[Dmaune1]

Could the Formula GT handle bumps any worse than it already does? Im trying to do the Seasonal at the Nurb, and the car will not track straight half the time. Ive tried stock settings, ive tried my own tunes, ive tried tunes from here, and nothing seems to be helping me. Is there anyway to make the thing actually take a bump with out shooting of into a wall?

I feel your pain. Just don't drive as aggressively. You don't need to drive like a batt out of helll to beat the ai.

 

[Marcus Garvey]

I would suggest as mentioned above that you increase the ride height. It really makes the car a lot more stable, and the FGT tends to bottom out on bumpy courses. You need to stop the car from bottoming regularly, as when the car bottoms it unloads the tyres and you lose grip along with the car becoming very unpredictable and unstable. Also, playing with the differential settings may net you a more confidence inspiring drive.

 

[gtnoobie]

Had trouble in the ring with FGT initially as well. Important to avoid big curbs and remember where the elevation changes drastically else the FGT will lawn mow or rearrange Armco. Remembered someone advise to lower front downforce to reduce snap oversteer. I max rear downforce and front downforce set to 55-60. Also increasing ride height may help a little. Once the front wheel touches sand, be very careful on throttle for the next few meters. I still struggle at the ring (can't do 2 clean laps) so I can feel ur pain.

 

[trk29]

Your input is duly noted; would you perhaps like a cookie or a pat on the back as a reward?

And your wise ass comment is duly noted. 👎

The key to the F1 cars is throttle control and smooth turning, no harsh wheel movements.

Now, good luck with the FGT.....

 

[SkateNj]

Could the Formula GT handle bumps any worse than it already does? Im trying to do the Seasonal at the Nurb, and the car will not track straight half the time. Ive tried stock settings, ive tried my own tunes, ive tried tunes from here, and nothing seems to be helping me. Is there anyway to make the thing actually take a bump with out shooting of into a wall?

Me and a bunch of guys in the FGTC race in formua gt's no problem around the ring. Its all about smooth steering throttle control and tuning

 

[Jubby]

The two best tips I have:
1. Stay off the kerbs.
2. There are places like Ford Kerve that you just have to 'roll' through. You cannot use the throttle out of (or in) every corner. Another example is after the Foxhole. If you decide that you want to use the throttle, you're inviting the front tires to a date with a wall.
Bonus: Ride height to +20, +20. Shocks down below 14.0, and Dampers below 7. The rest depends on your style.

Steady pace will win this easily after the techniques, as you have 15 minutes to make up around 30 seconds.

 

[Ellis]

Me and a bunch of guys in the FGTC race out formua gt's no problem aroujd tye ring. Its all about smooth steering throttle control and tuning

Yeh we found it easy it is all about tuning

 

[mikekhel30]

I have no problem with it. Just like people pointed out, smooth steering, throttle control, and tuning.

 

[Bushby_23]

So the only thing I haven't properly tried is raising the ride height to extreme levels. Everything else I've played with.

 

[UnionStrike]

Decrease FFB?

 

[Bushby_23]

Decrease FFB?

I'm a ds3 user

 

[SavageEvil]

First off you have to realize what you are doing wrong while driving the car. Are you running over the curbing? Not using throttle in conjunction with braking therefore unsettling the car? Not being patient and waiting for your car to be pointing straight before applying the throttle? I drive the FGT almost stock, I usually change the damper settings to match the course, like the Nurb I usually have the compression rate high and the extension slow, this makes the car less apt to oversteer during corner entrance and exit. It's not hard, just be smooth and remember that the FGT is like a go kart and less like a regular race car, you steer basically with the rear end momentum, if you do not have significant speed you can find yourself going into tail wag, then spin out. Throttle modulation is necessary, transition from brake to gas must be quick and smooth. Practice it over and over and you will get the hang of it, trust me on that.

 

[Bushby_23]

First off you have to realize what you are doing wrong while driving the car. Are you running over the curbing? Not using throttle in conjunction with braking therefore unsettling the car? Not being patient and waiting for your car to be pointing straight before applying the throttle? I drive the FGT almost stock, I usually change the damper settings to match the course, like the Nurb I usually have the compression rate high and the extension slow, this makes the car less apt to oversteer during corner entrance and exit. It's not hard, just be smooth and remember that the FGT is like a go kart and less like a regular race car, you steer basically with the rear end momentum, if you do not have significant speed you can find yourself going into tail wag, then spin out. Throttle modulation is necessary, transition from brake to gas must be quick and smooth. Practice it over and over and you will get the hang of it, trust me on that.

I generally won't use kerbing in something like this. Definately don't use brake and accelerator at the same time. And I accelerate normally after the apex, but not while the car is 100% straight. However my issue is when the car starts to reach the apex, it will hit a small bump, and plow straight into a wall.

 

[urunatural]

like they said, throttle control, lift easy, partial throttle through turn,
push gradually while exiting turn then give it hell, good luck, and the mother of all, practice

 

[SavageEvil]

I generally won't use kerbing in something like this. Definately don't use brake and accelerator at the same time. And I accelerate normally after the apex, but not while the car is 100% straight. However my issue is when the car starts to reach the apex, it will hit a small bump, and plow straight into a wall.

How stiff is your suspension settings? My car is nearly stock and the only time I have issues is when I mistakenly touch grass or bottom out of curbing, but if you bounce on corner exit just wait a split second before countersteering, if you do it too fast you will more than likely careen off the course. You have to be pretty quick with steering inputs to recover from one of those aerials that shunts you off track. It's a concerto of steering inputs along with throttle modulation to reign the car back under control. I have my controller set to max sensitivity because I like quick steering in the FGT, I've become accustomed to it and can use it to make minute adjustments while cornering. Practice until you know the car much better, that way you can anticipate what it's about to do under duress.

 

[Bigbazz]

If you drive the car as if there is a small stone underneath your throttle pedal stopping you from going to full throttle, you will have much better results. If you're using a gamepad, not quite so easy.

Driving aids are there to help, get over your pride and use them, nobody has to know .

 

[Bushby_23]

How stiff is your suspension settings? My car is nearly stock and the only time I have issues is when I mistakenly touch grass or bottom out of curbing, but if you bounce on corner exit just wait a split second before countersteering, if you do it too fast you will more than likely careen off the course. You have to be pretty quick with steering inputs to recover from one of those aerials that shunts you off track. It's a concerto of steering inputs along with throttle modulation to reign the car back under control. I have my controller set to max sensitivity because I like quick steering in the FGT, I've become accustomed to it and can use it to make minute adjustments while cornering. Practice until you know the car much better, that way you can anticipate what it's about to do under duress.

My current set up is slightly softer, but abit low to the ground. Still have sensitivity at 0. One of the main reasons I find this so annoying is because I didn't have any issues in gt4 with this car on whatever track I got to. Then again, I used more stronger aids then too. I'll try it quaint tonight when hopefully ill be a little less tired then I was last night.

If you drive the car as if there is a small stone underneath your throttle pedal stopping you from going to full throttle, you will have much better results. If you're using a gamepad, not quite so easy.

Driving aids are there to help, get over your pride and use them, nobody has to know .

I do use them.

 

[Sach]

Springs at 15.0 or so, maybe even lower the ext to 7/7 in addition, ride height 0/0. I know what you mean, especially after playing F1 2011 so much. I jump back into the FGT and I just feel like, "This is supposed to be a formula car?".

 

[Bigbazz]

Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and accept that you are not good enough and move on with it. A lot of people here (myself included) who didn't have issues with the event have raced the Nurburgring to death and know every corner, bump and detail of the track down to a natural level. Knowing the track properly makes an absolute massive difference in how easily you will be able to adapt to it in a crazy car like the FGT. If you have a crazy car that you're unfamiliar with, on a crazy track that you're unfamiliar with you have a recipe for pain.

As for the car, like I said, try to drive it without ever going to full throttle, you don't need full throttle to beat the AI, you can absolutely thrash them without ever (aside from the final straight) using full throttle. The problem is likely not with the setup, increasing ride height and having a more understeer balanced setup (more rear downforce, less front, softer rear suspension than the front), which will make the car easier to drive (but probably slower).


Are you using a gamepad or a wheel? Ultimately i suggest you either go practice driving the FGT on other (easier) tracks to get a better feel for its behavour, or you go practice the Nurburgring in another car (like the special event Mercedes training) to learn the track. Then go back to it in a couple of days (or weeks) and you will be fine.


Just a lasting impression. Don't try to drive the car too fast, the AI are driving fairly slowly. They can be annoying to pass on such a narrow track but they don't drive fast, you can easily beat them if you just stay on the track and drive at a decent and safe pace.

 

[Bushby_23]

Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and accept that you are not good enough and move on with it. A lot of people here (myself included) who didn't have issues with the event have raced the Nurburgring to death and know every corner, bump and detail of the track down to a natural level. Knowing the track properly makes an absolute massive difference in how easily you will be able to adapt to it in a crazy car like the FGT. If you have a crazy car that you're unfamiliar with, on a crazy track that you're unfamiliar with you have a recipe for pain.

As for the car, like I said, try to drive it without ever going to full throttle, you don't need full throttle to beat the AI, you can absolutely thrash them without ever (aside from the final straight) using full throttle. The problem is likely not with the setup, increasing ride height and having a more understeer balanced setup (more rear downforce, less front, softer rear suspension than the front), which will make the car easier to drive (but probably slower).

Are you using a gamepad or a wheel? Ultimately i suggest you either go practice driving the FGT on other (easier) tracks to get a better feel for its behavour, or you go practice the Nurburgring in another car (like the special event Mercedes training) to learn the track. Then go back to it in a couple of days (or weeks) and you will be fine.

Just a lasting impression. Don't try to drive the car too fast, the AI are driving fairly slowly. They can be annoying to pass on such a narrow track but they don't drive fast, you can easily beat them if you just stay on the track and drive at a decent and safe pace.

I know I'm not great at this, and I don't quite care how good/bad I am. And I can definately get the car round a track easily enough. And I can get a mostly good lap around the ring without major issues. It's combining both that causes me to be lost

 

[Bigbazz]

I know I'm not great at this, and I don't quite care how good/bad I am. And I can definately get the car round a track easily enough. And I can get a mostly good lap around the ring without major issues. It's combining both that causes me to be lost

It just comes down to practice and time, just move on from it and make an effort to occasionally use the car/track often enough in your general playing for them to become natural. You will soon find that winning the race in that (horrible) car will come easy.

The ammount of skill that can be gained from practice and applied knowledge over time is massive, the frustration happens when you want/need it now. Don't bash your head on it though, there are far more enjoyable ways to make money in the game!

 

[Bushby_23]

It just comes down to practice and time, just move on from it and make an effort to occasionally use the car/track often enough in your general playing for them to become natural. You will soon find that winning the race in that (horrible) car will come easy.

The ammount of skill that can be gained from practice and applied knowledge over time is massive, the frustration happens when you want/need it now. Don't bash your head on it though, there are far more enjoyable ways to make money in the game!

Haha I know, its just one the few events I haven't done that pays good money. I'll get there...

 

[awr117]

I feel they've made huge adjustments with 2.0. For the life of me i couldn't drive the FGT without spinning like crazy before 2.0. Now i am able to drive the car fairly good and enjoy it. I won at the Ring after 2 tries. My FGT is stock and i cheated with racing soft if that helps. 👍