Showing Respect to Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini

[McLaren'sAngel]

hiya!


I am here to express my opinion and other things that I get from around me. I totally dislike how some or most people completly think that Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghinis are a waste of money because they claim themselves they can build a car to go faster in a 1/4 race than those three companies, which is true. Its like, they dont respect them, especially their HIGH price range. And some lack the knowledge to understand why Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghinis cost sooo much more. I deeply respect Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghinis very very much, because of their natural beauty, speed and reputation. And also, even though this statement coming up might draw some flame here. I find it very funny how sometimes their will be topics such as "Skyline vs McLaren F1" now thats something that just bugs me.... And the main things that are being argued is always about 1/4 mile race and the difference in price. Its pretty obvious how some will say Skyline will win because you can give it 1000 HP just to beat McLaren F1 and the HUGE price difference. It's also funny to me how people tend to compare a 10 year old technolgy to new technology such as McLaren F1 and skyline/supra etc.
In conclusion, I just find it not fair how people can put down companies such as Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini because they can build a car that goes 1/4 mile faster and thats all they care about....dont care about track racing huh? Although you could always see if Skyline and a Supra can beat those Big American Rods that go 1/4 mile in 4-5 seconds

 

[McLaren'sAngel]

hiya!

Just wanna add. Its pretty stereotypical what kind of a person would own a Porsche, ferrari or Lamborghini

 

[Famine]

And just removing the concept of racing away from road cars for a minute...

A few points you have erred on:
The Supra is 11 year old technology.

Nobody outside the drag racing scene, or a bunch of 14 year old spods, takes any notice of 1/4 mile times.

In my opinion, the price is predominantly due to the label, although less so in the case of Porsche, as with all fashion accessories.

The only standard production road car to beat the McLaren F1 in a 0-60mph test is some £570,000 cheaper, and 9 years older.

Skyline and Supra aren't the be all and end all. Subaru have just released a car which can seat four, costs less to run than any Ferrari ever, is priced at £29,995, is more reliable at longer service intervals and will slaughter a Ferrari 360 up through 60mph and 100mph (but is limited to 155mph).

People will put down what they want to for any reason. I have no time for Ferrari personally, although I am fond of the F40, 456 and the 550 (I prefer the Vanquish), and I'm disinterested in Porsche. Lamborghini I like. But they are all expensive cars, well beyond the means of most normal people and can only be seen as status symbols when there are many cars which can do as good a job in most departments, worse in some and better in others for fractions of the price.

 

[Fenrir51]

Id rather buy something worth the price tag that includes more then a name.

 

[bengee]

Porsche is something i am interested in... Although if i ever buy a 911 my money will never go tot he company, but some previous owner who had some taste... No 996 is worth the buy when you could get a 993 or 964 or 930 for less ...

I find ferraris are relatively unimmaginative. This does not include the f40, 512, or the early cars and the almight 288 gto...

The only good lambo is the miura... The rest are over showy and way overpriced.

Everyone knows that lambos and ferraris are part of a complete fashion statement completed with other things italian.

Porsche, however, is unique and therefore more interesting. And plus how could you refuse a 4 wheel drive or rear wheel drive 993 turbo... or for that matter a 964... Those two cars are the back bones for the CTR and CTR2...

 

[XzifT]

..Lamboghinis seem Fragile. Too fragile to throw around. As famine said, a Supra has 11 year old technology... This post has no other point besides: Anyone who drives a Lambo or a ferrari is way too self concious. A Porsche is alright, because they're good for their price. But..eh, I dunno.. Yeah.

 

[bengee]

No No a classic 911 is fine becuase well its real 911

 

[Goomba]

For a while, I had no respect for Porsches. But then learning that its an amazingly fast car in the corners, I came back around and I like 'em again. However, I won't respect anyone that doesn't respect any other cars except for the high end cars.

For instance, on Ferrarichat.com a Modena (I believe) owner raced an STi and the Subaru kept up with the Ferrari. There were basically two sides to the whole debate. One side didn't complain, and in fact complimented the STi! Coming from someone with a Ferrari, that's a huge compliment. The others whinned about the STi saying, "It's only a Subaru. It doesn't have a racing heritage, and what car is going to get you more girls.". These are the kind of people that I hate. First of all, the Imperza HAS racing hertiage, in rally events. Second, I hope the girls you get will stand your constant whine about how an STi stood up to your Ferrari. But then again, these are just the owners, not the cars.

 

[bengee]

Goomba brings up a fantastic point... The world wouldnt be the same without the lower end cars that can keep up with the "fantastic" designs from traditional powerhouses. There is beauty and brawn in every car market... you just have to look for it... Sti isnt the only such car. What about cossie sierras and escorts... ford shoguns... renault 5 turbos and peugeout 525 GTi (I think that should be correct)... clio sports and japanese cars like rx7's and supras and lancers... You could own how many of those for one as fast ferrari...

 

[///M-Spec]

There are plenty of cars that will take down a 360 Modena or 911 Turbo for a fraction of the cost. This is especially true of cars with a lot of work done on them. A 15 year old Mustang LX with the right mods can smoke them both-- at the drag strip OR at the track, I might add.

Some people think that because you can tune a less expensive car to match the performance of a high dollar exotic car, it makes them redundant and silly. In a way it does, from a certain point of view. Specifically, theirs.

But some people take that idea one step further and heap scorn upon these 'rich man's toys' out of some weird notion of reverse elitism; an off shoot of anti-Bourgeoisie sentiment, popularized by quasi-Marxist dogma in which anything object of great wealth is something to be despised. Which makes sense in an odd way; if you can never hope to afford a Ferrari, why not mitigate a perceived shortcoming by marginalizing its value?

Its kind of like deciding a beautiful high class woman you can never hope to have, must in fact, be a frigid gold digging b!tch.

But I digress. Value for the dollar is a relative thing. In fact, the value OF a dollar is a relative thing as well. A hundred grand means a different thing for truly wealthy people than it does for you and me. Just like a dollar to most people in an industrialized country means differently than to a destitute family in Punjab, India or sub-Saharan Africa, earning less than 50 cents a week.

Is a Ferrari overpriced? Depends on who you ask. To the rest of us, 190k for a car is a great deal of money. To truly wealthy people, the $190,000 cost of a 360 Modena is a mere fraction of their net worth. It could be $300,000 or $30,000 and it wouldn't phase them (much). They buy them because they like them and can afford them.

If you think this makes them stupid or wasteful with their money consider what that family in Punjab would think of you spending the equivalant of what they earn in a week on a can of soda pop.


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