Skid Recovery Assist = Faster?

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First of all, I would admit that I am not a skillful driver. I won the seasonal events for SSR and Indy with Skid Recovery on. 3 to 4 seconds were shaved off for each lap for me, compared with no assists on. I would like to ask if Skid Recovery improves turning speed and still does not slow the car in other ways for compensation? Pls give me guidance and I guess you all want to discuss it, GT Fans.
 
Read the description of what it does. It gives you more grip. more grip = faster. I wish this assist wasn't in the game.
 
alfredchiwai
First of all, I would admit that I am not a skillful driver. I won the seasonal events for SSR and Indy with Skid Recovery on. 3 to 4 seconds were shaved off for each lap for me, compared with no assists on. I would like to ask if Skid Recovery improves turning speed and still does not slow the car in other ways for compensation? Pls give me guidance and I guess you all want to discuss it, GT Fans.
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Skid recovery isn't a "real" assist. Real assist like ABS and TCS that exist in real cars improve stability on the brakes, cornering etc. but come at a price as they'll slow you down. Skid recovery is a game device that makes your car much easier to drive without slowing you down. It'll allow you to go faster around a track than physically possible with a given car. It's an "easy" setting essentially.
 
Logically seeing as the assist "gives the tyres more grip when they start to slide" (in order to prevent a spin) one would have to assume that if that is truly all it does, then you will be faster.

Maximum grip in a tyre is achieved just as the tyres start to slide (a slip angle of a couple of degrees), so any assist that allows you to lean on the limit and even go over it without penalty (and possible even provides a benefit) will result in faster lap times.

Things like ASM and TC have their positives but they also will slow you down in certain situations as well, which I think is fair enough for something that is meant to aid you but not necessarily meant to make it easier to win. But an aid that has no down-side to it's use is a bit misplaced in a game that is meant to be a "simulator". If using something that doesn't exist in real life is faster than not using it, then it's not a "simulator".
 
Maybe it was a comp for players who just use DS3, because I know it'd be a lot easier to control a car without skid using a wheel instead. But DS3 requires a bit more effort espiecially without skid.
 
I dont use too, but remember, must be a game for everyone because its a console game.
 
Yeah like tourist said its the same as what GT5 prologue called Standard physics :guilty: and yes its faster as it gives you more grip on the limit
 
It's a useful feature for drivers who aren't as good, new players to hardcore simulation games.
They may oversteer or understeer too much and may choose to use Skid Recovery as a way to help them into the game.
 
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I have to play using the DS3, and I haven't had this setting on... So thats 2 reasons I can only get silver in the seasonal events, or at least 2 I can use....
 
Really? Might have to try it out, I'm loosing a few seconds a lap on the Special event.

After which I must wash with some sand paper, it will be the only way to feel clean again...
 
alfredchiwai
First of all, I would admit that I am not a skillful driver. I won the seasonal events for SSR and Indy with Skid Recovery on. 3 to 4 seconds were shaved off for each lap for me, compared with no assists on. I would like to ask if Skid Recovery improves turning speed and still does not slow the car in other ways for compensation? Pls give me guidance and I guess you all want to discuss it, GT Fans.
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I had a weird things happen in the 1000m braking test with the DB9,

I run with abs to 1 usually and on this event, skid recovery is enable automaticaly and you can't turn it off.
So after some try I realize I had trouble with golding it so I put abs to 10 and still fail miserably, then I thought about turning it off, and you know what ?
I accelerate faster than any other time. Since people are saying abs dont influence speed, I guess skid recovery is still slowing you down a bit.
Only explanation really.
 
I'll turn it on if I'm driving a high powered car that is so touchy in the turns that it's not fun to drive, like if there is a tire restriction and I can't use race tires. I always try and give it a few laps with it off though, because like mentioned above, it's really an easy button and gives you an unrealistic advantage.

Since they did away with the standard vs professional physics ala GT5P, I think it's in the game to appease those who preferred standard and a more arcade feel.
 
I don't think i've ever raced with the Skid Recovery Assist on, even for the Loeb Challenge. I try to have most of my assists off when i'm racing.
 
Wow! After reading this thread, I went back and re-tried the Loeb rally dirt challenge. I had just tried that for the first time last night and could not even get bronze. I turned on skid recovery just now and turned off all other assists, and got silver easily. I think I can get gold on this one now. Big difference!
 
that's good to hear, maybe ill go back and try turning this on to see if i can get gold in all those other events that I've earn bronze on.
 
Well if in about to skid out and a invisible hand stops me, I suppose it is faster.
 
Can't everyone stop complaining that there are aids, real or not, to help lower level drivers?
Do you not want GT5 to be a great selling title? Do you not want GT6 to have funding from 12 million copies sold rather than 3?
I know I do, and if that means the lower 70% need skid recovery to be good enough to enjoy the game, so what?
Tell me how this affects anyone not using it negatively.
 
I only used it for the Loeb challenge because I found that impossible to manage with my DS3, couldn't even get Bronze on Eiger, now I have Toscana and Eiger gold and Chamonix silver (with I think two seconds or so behind). Don't feel bad about it because these events are not real rallying anyway. I don't like it while driving on asphalt though, just feels too unrealistic.
 
I suppose the rot sets in if the top drivers gain from it to reach unachievable times on the leaderboards. Others would then be forced to use it for an attack on the leaderboard times.

Good thing GT players don't have any worry we don't have leaderboards.
 
RX-7_FD3S
I had a weird things happen in the 1000m braking test with the DB9,

I run with abs to 1 usually and on this event, skid recovery is enable automaticaly and you can't turn it off.
So after some try I realize I had trouble with golding it so I put abs to 10 and still fail miserably, then I thought about turning it off, and you know what ?
I accelerate faster than any other time. Since people are saying abs dont influence speed, I guess skid recovery is still slowing you down a bit.
Only explanation really.
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I thought all those aids come with the price of suppressed accelaration in return for grip
 
Skid Recovery was the only way I could pass the Top Gear special event with the Lotus Elise. Although I won I felt like cheating, but I was sooo sick and tired of that special, I tried like 500 times and still could not beat them with a DFGT. :(
With Skid Recovery though I was able to win easily from the first time. That's why I love GT5 there is so much room for me to improve, I m gonna be playing this for a long time I hope.
 

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