Skyline Comparision (GTS)

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In stock form the R34 GT-T runs the quickest, but as i'm talking about modern, skylines, the ones you see everday, with basic mods exhaust, pod filter etc.
As 70% of skylines through out the world are modified.
All skylines i've seen are modified in some way, never seen a stocker, rare to see one.
What do you think would be better, R32 GTS, R33 GTS.

R32 - 180KW (244hp) Modified - 160KW (220HP) Stock
R33 - 190KW (258hp) Modified - 175KW (237hp) Stock

The GTS4 is a rare model, and R33 GTS4.

GTS25T - The best i've seen in 1/4 mile is a 13.2 on street radial tyres (R33).
GTST - the basic Turbo R32, best is only
4-door models are even rarer as only Autech produced them, and nissan sold them under their name (R32,R33).
Type-M models are the best. R32 and R33.
 
I'm not sure which exact models you are meaning, your power figures are wrong for any model

R32 GTS is a 2.0l DOHC N/A tuned engine (RB20DE) standard power rating 155 hp (115 kW) (not lowest trim level)

R33 GTS is the lowest trim level with a 2.0L SOHC N/A tuned engine (RB20E) standard power rating only 130 PS (96 kW), which are quite rare cars.


If you referring to standard turbo non GTR models then

R32 GTSt is a 2.0L DOHC turbocharged engine (RB20DET) standard power rating 212 hp (156 kW).

R33 GTS25t is a 2.5 DOHC VCT Turbocharged engine (RB25DET) standard power rating 255 PS (188 kW).

These turbo models are quite restricted and respond very well to even small modifications. GTS4 models came optional turbocharged in R32 (ask mustang-man) but were only non turbo for R33.

4 Door Skylines (R32, R33) are not that rare at all, I see them fairly often.

13.2 1/4 mile is not very quick if thats the fastest you've seen, go onto Skylines forums and there are plenty of non GTR street driven cars running way faster than 13's. There was even a sticky thread of a guy that made his street GTS25t (with street tyres) get in the 12's with only minor cheap mods.


*EDIT* If you are referring to just the non turbo GTS models like your thread title leads me to believe then disregard all I said about the turbo models
 
As far as i know Jay, all R32 GTS-4's are turbo and are all Type M's by default, wheras R32 GTS-t's come in non Type M and Type M versions. Basically, Type M's have bigger brakes, ABS(?), better steering wheel, different wheel design (same as GTS-4) etc.

If you wanted to buy a GTS, i'd go for the R32. It has more power, as mentioned above, and is lighter than the R33 version. Also looks slightly better - not to say R33's are ugly though as i don't think they are. :p

R33 GTS-4's and R34 GT Four's are indeed both non turbo and would best be fitted with a turbo/engine transplant, as they would be heavier than the rear wheel drive versions.

Four door Skylines are also really common here in New Zealand, see them much more often than coupe's. My one is a four door. ;)
 
Mustang-man
As far as i know Jay, all R32 GTS-4's are turbo and are all Type M's by default,

That will explain why I haven't noticed a non turbo R32 GTS-4, I just assumed they came in both.

Mustang-man
If you want to buy a GTS, go for the R32. It has more power, as mentioned above, and is lighter than the R33 version. Also looks slightly better - not to say R33's are ugly though as i don't think they are.

Well like I said the R33 GTS I quoted above is the very rare (in AUS anyway) RB20E model and is the lowest trim model which is comparible to R32 GXi model (R32's lowest trim level), far far more common is the R33 GTS25 than the R33 GTS. My opinion is the R33 looks better, more noticeably in the interior. (also not to say R32's are ugly at all)

R33 GTS25 is a 2.5l DOHC N/A tuned engine standard power rating 190 PS (140 kW).
 
No, the R32 GTS looks better! :grumpy:

;) :D

R33 GTS's are reasonably common here, most models apart from maybe the R32 GXi are i think. 👍
 
Cool, Ive never personally seen under the bonnet of a RB20E R33 (GTS model), and I could only find one picture online. I wouldn't mind checking one out if I find one for sale.
 
hi how u going guys
just got 1 question...
does anyone know wat a stock r34 GT non turbo will run dwn 1/4mile. or even with basic mods, exhaust, pod.

and also wat a r33 will run.
coz looking at buying either a non turbo 34, or a r32,r33 turbo.
but jst cant decieded wat i want. iv got a r31 with a rb20det in it atm, but i wiped it off last week, so need sumthing else.

i lyk the r34, but havnt go the cash to get a GTST, but id consider getting non turbo. but not if they dnt go at all. if any1 kno's that wld b gwd

cheers
 
I would have to say that the R33 is better because I have heard that the R32 have a tendency of having the brake rotors "Exploding". Also with the R33 its newer and has better suspension and better brakes...hell they are the same as the R34's, also the engine is the same in the R33 as the R34 (the awesome RB26DET) so seeing as you start out with better stuff on the R33 I would have to say that the R33 takes it.

Oh and jara5982 I did some looking and all I could find was specs for the GTST and the GT-R. If you want I can post the stuff for ones I could find, just let me know ;)
 
Buy an R33 GTS25T. The RB25DET is a better motor than the RB20. The car itself is heavier but it does have more motor to push it along so it's still quicker. It's also got bigger brakes.

With regard to quarter mile times, stock R32 GTST would run about 14.5ish, stock R33 GTS25T would run about 14.2-3ish and a R34 GT would run in the mid 15s I spose. I've never seen anyone bother with a non turbo R34 before....

It's not as if an R32 GTST is bad though. And I've never heard of spontaneously explosive brake discs.....:)
 
Neither.

I probably wouldn't bother with a non turbo R34, a friends ex R34 25 GT (2.5l) couldn't keep up with my stock R32 GTS-4 even though he had a weight advantage (my car is about 1,500 kg's). Didn't have a power advantage of course but still. They do look good though, especially with the (optional) factory bodykit like another mate has on his R34 25 GT (below).
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I would have to say that the R33 is better because I have heard that the R32 have a tendency of having the brake rotors "Exploding".
I've NEVER heard of this happening. This sounds like a copy and paste of something someone wrote somewhere sometime. *cough* I have read something similar before, i believe it was posted on Wikipedia or somewhere?

also the engine is the same in the R33 as the R34 (the awesome RB26DET)
Eh? The only (to my knowledge) RB26DET's are modified (by the owner) and have a single turbo instead of a twin. You're (presumedly) talking about the RB26DETT which is found only in the R32, R33 and R34 GT-R's. Sometimes Stagea's too.

Don't mean any offence dude, but if you're not 100% sure about what you're talking about then usually it is a good idea to not say anything as you can end up confusing people. :)
 
Don't mean any offence dude, but if you're not 100% sure about what you're talking about then usually it is a good idea to not say anything as you can end up confusing people. :)


Agreed 👍

R32 Exploding brakes............. I am around alot of Skylines and I have never heard that before.

As for jara5982's question I wont bother answering it as I don't hardly understand it (Plus Revheadnz explained stock 1/4 mile time pretty well).
 
Don't mean any offence dude, but if you're not 100% sure about what you're talking about then usually it is a good idea to not say anything as you can end up confusing people. :)

As far as the brakes "Exploding" please watch THIS..... I said that because I thought that TOPGEAR was credible

And I thought that the R33 had the RB26DET because of THIS website and I apologize if my post confused some of you I will try and make sure it never happens again :guilty:

now I feel like "that guy" who doesn't know wtf he is talking about :(

*EDIT* I just found this awesome website HERE it has quite a lot of facts on it check it out maybe it will answer some questions you might have, but I don't know how accurate it is.
 
As far as the brakes "Exploding" please watch THIS..... I said that because I thought that TOPGEAR was credible

Quite abit of mis-information on that vid, like the exploding brakes and did he say the turbo's wear out after 60k miles (under 100k km's) in stock form? Yet to see that without user error (owner fiddling around).

My Turbo has done 96,000 km's (60k miles) and is well within factory specs still.


And I thought that the R33 had the RB26DET because of THIS website and I apologize if my post confused some of you I will try and make sure it never happens again :guilty:

There is no mention of a RB26DET engine on that site?
 
My turbo has done 213,000+ km's and still going strong (on stock boost with no engine mods). :)

Everyone makes mistakes dude, don't worry about it. :)

Wikipedia, although editable by anyone, is probably more accurate than other sites because people like myself keep correcting things people write on the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_skyline
 
OK I was on one of the websites that I am normally on and they have put up the same TOPGEAR video that I posted and I was wondering if some of you could go there and post the facts and set the record strait HERE is the link, just go to the bottom and fill in the info


Your Help Would Be Much Appreciated :bowdown:
 
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