So I bought a Xbox 360 today......

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It's not about disagreeing with you, nor is it about your love for the 360 which you are definitely entitled to feel that way. It is in fact that you have posted several things that were plainly and simply untrue... and I have already posted countless times showing my download times of content and updates off the PSN, and compared to what you claimed you were able to download off the 360, it was already faster. Not only that, but I took a great deal of time to try and help you figure out what was wrong with your router or network settings, but that clearly was waste of my time.

Not only that, while I have clearly explained why it is very much possible for multiple devices on the same network to have different download speeds due to problems with the router. If you have already forgotten, I already posted a link in this thread to one of many times I have explained it, and offered advice on how to fix it.

Bottom line, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if the majority of people downloading content off the PSN are doing so at or near the max limit that their ISP allows and on a regular basis, then those who are not clearly have an issue with their network, router, settings, etc.

You can make an effort to fix it, or just keep complaining about something that is in your control. So far it appears, assuming you are even being truthful about your download speeds, which I highly doubt considering how many times you have said things about the PS3 that were not true, and exaggerated the facts to suit your agenda, I suspect you'll continue to do the later. :indiff:



Well first of all price is an issue otherwise why did it come up, and second of all I never said it was better, and in fact I have posted on several occasions that XBL in terms of the ease at which it is to join your friends has been and remains much better than the PS3, and have also said I understand why many people do not have an issue with paying $50 a year for the service.

However, that's a far cry from someone saying point blank that the PSN is dire, and compared to Live it's terrible or that the PSN is not entirely unusable... which are absurd comments when in fact it it's proven to be more stable than XBL over the last 12 months, with several of the games being hosted on dedicated servers and not just P2P like on XBL.

In addition, the PSN offers many nice features that are lacking in XBL, and those comments are even more absurd based on the fact that you can effectively do many of the things you have claimed are not even possible... heck even Moglet admitted that you can invite and communicate with friends on PSN, something you apparently are still convinced isn't possible.



Look, I'm going to keep responding as long as people keep posting false claims, but make no mistake about it, seeing as you have never even admitted to posting false information about the PS3 before, I don't expect you to now, or no matter what hoops you would like me to jump through for your amusement.

All I would ask is you to realize that you do a disservice to this site and all of it’s members when you knowingly post false, misleading or inaccurate posts… and yes, exaggerations are exactly that.


First off. I tried everything that I could possibly do to fix my network issues. I spent hours on the phone with my ISP, sony, and linksys. None had an answer for me.
I now use a straight lead to my modem to download content off of psn. It boosts me clear up to 1.5 mb download. No one in my town that I know can get above a 3 mb upload with the ps3. Maybe it's our ISP. We have all tried everything we can think of. One of has a job setting up networks for cosi(a science exhibit museum)and he also trouble shoots and sets up the networks of a local college. If it could be fixed, he could fix it.

Second, I do not post false claims or lies, as you are so willing to claim. I post my experiences that I have had with the 360 and the ps3. Just because you do not agree with them, does not make them false.

Third, I would like to know how you send invites to friends, that they can accept from the xmb, and follow you into a game. I would also like to know why you won't admit that you can not chat with people outside of the xmb, unless you are both in the same game. The only way I can communicate with someone outside of my game, is through texting. That is stone age as far as online gaming goes.

Where did you get your info, that the psn has been more stable then xbox live in the last 12 months. I have had no trouble at all with the 360's p2p game hosting. The only time I have ever had trouble with xbox live, was during christmas last year. That was resolved in a matter of days. Have you played the new socom. That game has major issues, and it is one of the playstations flagship games. Don't get me wrong though, I do love socom, but it is the buggiest game I have ever played. The lag is also the worst on a next gen game yet.

Have you also noticed that you are the only one that defends the psn like you do. I just wish you would realize, that the psn has some major problems. I am not saying it is worthless, it just is behind xbox live, and it has problems.

If someone wants to get a great online experience, and play nearly lag free, user friendly games, with many online features the 360 is the way to go. If a person wants a media hub, blu-ray player, and decent online experience, then the ps3 is the way to go.

Each has their ups, and each has their downs. The 360 though is definitely ahead in the online gaming experience. While the ps3 is much more media friendly, while still being a great gaming console. I know that, that is something that you can't disagree with. If you do, you will lose all credibility, when speaking about the 2 consoles.

Anyway, I will try and steer clear of your 360 vs ps3 debates. This one has gotten out of control, and is consuming way to much of my time. Neither of us can be persuaded to see the others way. It's really weird, how 2 people can have such different opinions on such a subject. I think that you are really just being rude and stubborn, while you probably feel the same way toward me. I guess that's the beauty of the internet.

I want you to know that I do not hate the ps3. I argue with my 360 fanboy buddies all the time when they say the ps3 is garbage. My only thing I have against it is it's online. Everything else is great. I love to stream music, videos, pictures, and such from my macs. It works much better then the 360. Really everything about the ps3 is better, except the psn.

Good luck with your mission of ps3 dominance. Maybe I will see you on gt5p if private rooms are ever created.
There will be no arguing over who wins there.
 
Uhhh are you serious? They are both excellent games.

Forza 2 received a 90/100 on Metacritic.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/forzamotorsport2?q=Forza 2

Especially when the GT5:P only received a 82/100
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2?q=rainbow six 2 vegas

And GT4 received a 89/100
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/granturismo4?q=gran turismo

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 received a 82/100 on the same site.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2?q=rainbow six 2 vegas

Seem pretty respectable to me

RB6V2 is cool,👍
but if your skill is too much perfect then everything will seem boring because everything is too easy for ya(if your too good in the most difficult).
But if your good enuf(just right), then when you die at the last part of the mission, you will be like, "aww!!! I was so close!:mad:" and you want to play again until you finish. Thats the cool part about it.:D
And when they shoot down one of your men, you'll get mad at the person who shot them and then you will be like "🤬!!! shoot at my men one more time...... :Boom head shot:...yeah, thats what you get :trouble:"

Its cool 👍

I'm playing it now so.....
 
If you love zombies get dead rising... i got it 2 years ago and i still play it:sly:
plus its cheap, like 20 bucks new and even less used
 
If you love zombies get dead rising... i got it 2 years ago and i still play it:sly:
plus its cheap, like 20 bucks new and even less used
good zombie multiplayer : Left 4 Dead ( though only split screen offline) T-T
Call of Duty : World at War did a good job though I haven't tried 4 players offline yet.
 
I Got Good News and Bad news......

The Good news is I just Signed up for Xbox Live, and hav a 1 month free Gold membership :dopey:
The Bad news is....(witch I should have mention earlier).. I hav the Arcade Consel(256MB):guilty:
couldnt help buying it, it was either a 360 arcade or nothing :indiff:
anyway...my gamertag is tfujiwara GTP
 
how much do they usally cost?
I cant buy stuff on the internet...maybe gamestop?
 
Either way, most games on the PS3 aren't 1080P.

Absolutely, and yet far more games are natively rendered in 1080p for the PS3 than for the 360.

Isn't that because the 360 has none? Do you have the numbers for both consoles? I think they would be interesting.

I do not belive there are any games for the 360 that are rendered natively in 1080p or 1080i - only scaled to output that way, which of course adds no additional detail... and in the case of an interlaced signal, like 1080i, you risk losing 50% of the vertical resolution depending on whether or not it was properly flagged, and on the quality of the deinterlacer in the display.

As for PS3 games, I stopped keeping track of them, but here are some of the PS3 games that are rendred in native 1080p:

  • Blast Factor
  • Calling All Cars
  • Echochrome
  • Elefunk
  • flOw
  • Go Puzzle
  • Go Sudoku
  • GT5 Prologue
  • High Velocity Bowling
  • Lair
  • Locoroco Cocoreccho
  • Mainichi Issyo
  • NBA07
  • NBA08
  • Pixel Junk Eden
  • Pixel Junk Monsters
  • Pixel Junk Racers
  • Ridge Racer 7
  • Snakeball
  • Super Rub-a-Dub
  • Super Stardust HD
  • Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection
  • Wipeout HD
  • Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3
 
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Why are you posting here DN? No one in this thread is interested in the enormous amount of info you have. You are also heavily PS biased in my OPINION, if you also owned a 360 and were a live member i'm sure you would feel differently.👍
 
Why are you posting here DN? No one in this thread is interested in the enormous amount of info you have. You are also heavily PS biased in my OPINION, if you also owned a 360 and were a live member i'm sure you would feel differently.👍

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First of all, I know for a fact I am not, and no matter how many times you try and convince me and everyone else I am it won't make it true.

What I care about are facts, of which you apparently not only do not care about if they cast the 360 in any sort of bad light, and rather than discuss the topic or the facts that have been posted, you only take issue with me personally, although you are way off the mark with your assumptions there as well.

I have posted facts that are both negative and positive for both consoles as well as disagreed with those that have posted false facts about the 360 that were not only untrue but unfavorable and instead posted accurate facts that were favorable towards the 360, and unlike some people I know I don't go around making ridiculous exaggerations and fabrications in a poor attempt to make my opinion appear more valid or to purposefully mislead others into thinking something is true that simply is not.

In fact, I rarely express my own personal subjective opinions, as too many people can't distinguish between a subjective and an objective opinion, and like now, instead of posting something interesting and participating in a discussion in a civil manor, instead they just attack them personally and call them names.

If you would like to participate in the topic great, but if all you have to offer this thread are personal attacks, then that says so much more about who you are then it does about the person you are personally attacking.
 
I bought an Xbox 360 Pro last Saturday. I was hoping for a Jasper unit (the salesman said his stock was so) but it turned out to be a Falcon. No dramas though, I don't really mind.

So far I like it! The console came with Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. I will never play the former, for sure. I also got Gears of War 1 and 2, Project Gotham Racing 3 and GTA IV even though I have it for PS3 as well.

I want to pick up Halo 3 too, even though I hear from various people that it's not amazingly brilliant, I want to see the trilogy through. :)

I'm not entirely in love with the NXE interface, especially the compulsory avatars. But it's not bad.

I did notice a weird strip down the left of the picture when using the Xbox 360 and it's default component cables. Doesn't appear with over the air TV or the PS3. I'll be connecting the 360 with a HDMI cable tonight, which will hopefully solve that problem.

My gamertag is RpgCyco, the same as my PSN ID, if anybody wants to add me. It looks like I probably will be paying for a Gold Subscription after my 1 month trial.
 
Good for you, now you get the best of both consoles.:)

Precisely. :) I'm playing through GoW 1 at the moment and it's pretty darn awesome.

Btw, switching to a HDMI cable did solve that weird stripe down the left hand side of the picture. That's a relief.
 
Precisely. :) I'm playing through GoW 1 at the moment and it's pretty darn awesome.

Btw, switching to a HDMI cable did solve that weird stripe down the left hand side of the picture. That's a relief.


you know M$, quality is not really their main priority. Those component cable that come with it are pretty cheap looking and feeling, no wonder you had a video issue. Good luck and see AND HEAR you online, thanks to EVERY game and the headset you got with your purchase..ha ha ha:sly:
 
I bought an Xbox 360 Pro last Saturday. I was hoping for a Jasper unit (the salesman said his stock was so) but it turned out to be a Falcon. No dramas though, I don't really mind.

So far I like it! The console came with Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. I will never play the former, for sure. I also got Gears of War 1 and 2, Project Gotham Racing 3 and GTA IV even though I have it for PS3 as well.

I want to pick up Halo 3 too, even though I hear from various people that it's not amazingly brilliant, I want to see the trilogy through. :)

I'm not entirely in love with the NXE interface, especially the compulsory avatars. But it's not bad.

I did notice a weird strip down the left of the picture when using the Xbox 360 and it's default component cables. Doesn't appear with over the air TV or the PS3. I'll be connecting the 360 with a HDMI cable tonight, which will hopefully solve that problem.

My gamertag is RpgCyco, the same as my PSN ID, if anybody wants to add me. It looks like I probably will be paying for a Gold Subscription after my 1 month trial.

Gald to hear that ;) 👍
get Forza Motorsport 2 you'll love it
 
Gald to hear that ;) 👍
get Forza Motorsport 2 you'll love it

+1, you will for sure, its surprising how many people are still playing FM2 everyday. Its extremely lucky if I can get more than one player to race in GT5P in the pro events, like nobodies playing anymore.
 
Gald to hear that ;) 👍
get Forza Motorsport 2 you'll love it

Agreed, and from a supposedly PS biased person:

+1 especially Forza 2. To me that's should be an automatic buy for a new 360 owner, especially one who is participating on a forum built on the mutual appreciation of realistic driving games. 👍

I have never played RB62, but as Joey said, the reviews have generally been very good, better than RB6 if I recall.

I'd also highly recommend Fable 2, Mass Effect and definitely Ace Combat 6. They are all superb games. 👍

You can get great deals on Mass Effect and AC6 as they have been out for a while, but are still very much worth owning.

👍
 
+1, you will for sure, its surprising how many people are still playing FM2 everyday. Its extremely lucky if I can get more than one player to race in GT5P in the pro events, like nobodies playing anymore.

..but some people online remove you from the lobby from the first 3 seconds you enter. I dont know why but I think its because there team drifting, or they either dont like the cars you have. To me it seems like nobody likes a pink savanna rx7:grumpy:

rpgcyco: when you get forza 2, there is glitch that you can make money as much as you want, and it dosent work if your played the game online
 
rpgcyco: when you get forza 2, there is glitch that you can make money as much as you want, and it dosent work if your played the game online

Honestly, he most likely doesn't need the glitch. It's easy enough to make money, and by the time you get far enough in the game to be competitive online, he'll probably have enough money to do... pretty much anything.
 
I wouldn't use the exploit anyway, I enjoy building up money normally. :)

I'll look into getting Forza 2, but as you all know the G25 doesn't work on the Xbox 360 and since dropping the controller for sim games, when I pick one up and see a car I go into Burnout Paradise mode. :P

But I guess I'll get back into the swing of it eventually.
 
Honestly, he most likely doesn't need the glitch. It's easy enough to make money, and by the time you get far enough in the game to be competitive online, he'll probably have enough money to do... pretty much anything.

just saying it because of the cars that you win in a race you can only sell them for $100.
 
just saying it because of the cars that you win in a race you can only sell them for $100.
I know, but those cars also give you a chance at races that have higher payouts, when you get to them. Of course, you can always auction them off, although there's no guarantee that somebody'll buy it.
 
I know, but those cars also give you a chance at races that have higher payouts, when you get to them. Of course, you can always auction them off, although there's no guarantee that somebody'll buy it.
At least paint is free..I sold a look a like MCR GTR in the auction house for pretty cheap.
 
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