So I bought a Xbox 360 today......

[Max Powers]

I've got a 20 gig, and I play online regularly. The only problem I've had so far is that I don't get to store a bunch of demos, which isn't a problem at all. Of course, I haven't bought any TV shows or anything yet.

ALSO: The instant queue for Netflix is AWESOME. I was given a 6-month free Netflix subscription as a wedding present, and this has added a ton of value to it. Highly recommend it.

You're married?! Or am I mistaken? My dad took absolutely no interest in my xbox until he realized that he could watch his netflix on it, now I have to fio ght him to get on it.

 

[Zrow]

You're married?! Or am I mistaken? My dad took absolutely no interest in my xbox until he realized that he could watch his netflix on it, now I have to fio ght him to get on it.

HAH no no no, I was a groomsman for a friend, and it was a groomsman gift. I reeaally didn't word that one right.

 

[Scaff]

I picked up a used hard drive along with my 360 arcade, a friend with hdmi gave me his regular HD cables, and picked up a 20gig HD(plenty for me) for 50 more dollars(used), about 250 total. Also a 20 gig hard drive is fine for going on live, I definitely wouldn't call the 60 gig HD a bare minumum for online. Of course, that dinky memory stick won't cut it, but a 20gig hd is fine for my needs.

Depends on how you use it, my PS3 was a 60 gig launch model and with videos, demos, music and pictures it rapidly became clear than was not even close to what I would need. I now have a 160gig internal drive and a 250gig external drive for it.

My main point was however that for the price difference in the UK between the Arcade model (£130) and the 60gig model (£170), then getting the 60gig is a no brainer for the small amount of difference in price.


Regards

Scaff

 

[poolio]

just throwing my hat into the ring, if you'd like to race on forza sometime let me know

 

[tfujiwara]

your all gonna loose anyway...

 

[Moglet]

My gamertag is Moglet if anyone ever wants to have a race on PGR4 or Forza 2, I'm better at PGR though, I tend to get really carried away on Forza....

I also play CoD4 a lot.

 

[Aizen93nasty]

your all gonna loose anyway...

I would like to see that. Ive been playin Forza for about 9 months now and i must admit i am an S class pro. my tag is CDR Hajimaru. Hit me up for some races.

 

[SpartanG]

I got a 360, 3 months in and I'm trying to sell it. Should have gotten the PS3

 

[Moglet]

I got a 360, 3 months in and I'm trying to sell it. Should have gotten the PS3

Sell it then. The PS3 has some good games but the online service is dire and there are less games available. It's a lot more expensive, too. I've had both consoles for a while now and the 360 is miles ahead in terms of playability and general fun gaming. The only time the PS3 excels is when it comes to DVD/BluRay playback.

 

[tfujiwara]

I got a 360, 3 months in and I'm trying to sell it. Should have gotten the PS3

well...witch Xbox 360 did you get?

Arcade(256MB), Regular(20GB), or Elite(120)?

 

[nk4e]

Sell it then. The PS3 has some good games but the online service is dire and there are less games available. It's a lot more expensive, too. I've had both consoles for a while now and the 360 is miles ahead in terms of playability and general fun gaming. The only time the PS3 excels is when it comes to DVD/BluRay playback.

And Metal Gear Solid 4!

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Not all 360 consoles have an HDMI output, but that's fine since component cables can handle HD.

Handling HD isn't the same thing. For one, 720p (0.9MP) has less than half the resolution of 1080p (2.1 MP). Secondly, very few displays can except a 1080p signal from component. In addition, there are almost no games for the 360 that are rendered natively in 1080p. So even with HDMI, almost everything you'll see will still only be in 720p, and if you are using component, then that is almost certainly the case.

Sell it then. The PS3 has some good games but the online service is dire and there are less games available. It's a lot more expensive, too. I've had both consoles for a while now and the 360 is miles ahead in terms of playability and general fun gaming. The only time the PS3 excels is when it comes to DVD/BluRay playback.

Wow.. that's some serious spin on reality there.

There is nothing dire about the PSN service, that's pure FUD.

The PS3 is not more expensive if you are paying $50 a year for XBL, or add features that the PS3 includes that you have to pay for with the 360, like $100 for MS' external WiFi adapter ... or $80 for MS' 20GB hard drive or even $160 for MS' 120GB drive (I just bought a 1TB drive for my PS3 for $100 - even though MS doesn't even let you do that with a 360, at $80 per 20GB, that would be $4,000 for 1TB - or even over $1,300 based on the price of the 120GB drives) ... Heaven forbid you have to replace your 360 out of warranty.

And you honestly think the 360 is miles ahead in terms of playability and general fun? Please. Not this again.

BTW: As I am fond of data and statistics, I was curious to see what data Metacritic has on what games reviewers thought were the better exclusive games for each system since the PS3 came out... as some folks forget the 360 came out a year earlier... although I think even a diehard 360 fan would have to agree that outside of Gears of War and PGR3, the games that came out during the first year for the 360 were not exactly great games and certainly not trailblazers or revolutionary... not saying they were bad mind you... but just not great, especially compared to those that followed.

So for those that don't know, Metacritic compiles the scores of a very wide selection of well known published reviewers, converts their scores to a 100 point scale, and then takes the average for each game, movie, etc.

I figured an average score of 80 or more seemed like a reasonable criteria as far as what games have on average received the best scores from critics, and seeing as in general there is a significant difference between downloadable arcade & PSN games, I only included ones that were released on disc, thus sold through standard retail stores, and so over the last two years here are the results:

360 = 12 Exclusive Games w/ average scores of 80 or more
(and as it turns out, my list of top 360 games was pretty close to this) 👍

1. Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
2. Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
3. Crackdown
4. Fable II
5. Forza Motorsport 2
6. Gears of War 2
7. Halo 3
8. Left 4 Dead
9. Ninja Gaiden II
10. Project Gotham Racing 4
11. Tales of Vesperia
12. Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise

Yes, it's true, you could say more than half of these are not exclusive to the 360, seeing as they are available in practically identical form on a PC... but some people don't like gaming on a PC, so I kept them in.



PS3 = 18 Exclusive Games w/ average scores of 80 or more

1. Buzz! Quiz TV
2. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
3. Heavenly Sword
4. Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
5. LittleBigPlanet
6. Metal Gear Online
7. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
8. MLB 08: The Show
9. MotorStorm
10. MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
11. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
12. Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
13. Resistance 2
14. Resistance: Fall of Man
15. SingStar
16. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
17. Valkyria Chronicles
18. Warhawk

Now some could argue that Ninja Gaiden Sigma shouldn't be on the list, as it is based largely on the original 360 game, but it also has a lot of exclusive features and content, and at least technically speaking it is considered an "exclusive".

Also, a couple of the exclusive PSN games that scored over 80 are large enough games that one could also argue they should be on that list, but it seemed more reasonable to only include games that were sold on disc.

And for those that don't care for games that are on the 360, then they are in even better luck, as Metacritic lists nearly 100 games for the PS3 that scored an average of 80 or more.

So again, anyone who claims there are no good games for the PS3, or just a handful... either they have massive hands, extremely picky, feel the same way about all systems, or is just not telling the truth...

That being said, as I feel it deserves being repeated, there are many great games for both systems. 👍

Finally, you claim the only time the PS3 excels is when it comes to DVD/BluRay playback... seriously? How far from the truth are you trying to go?

Besides the fact that your assessment on PS3 games is the opposite of the majority of critics of both consoles, but apparently you aren't terribly familiar with the differences between a PS3 and 360.

How's that web browser working for you on the 360? How about all those great 3rd party accessories, wheels, devices, and hard drives working out on your 360? How's the video conferencing working out? How's the built-in WiFi working on your 360?

Your anti-PS3 FUD is really intolerable.

To try and downplay or even make up so much crap about the PS3, you would think you are some what afraid of its success? Look, there in nothing wrong with loving your 360, and XBL, but isn't it possible to do that without making crap up about the PS3?

 

[nk4e]

Metal Gear Online and MGS4 the same?

 

[Solid Fro]

Metal Gear Online is only on the MGS4 disc as of right now.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Metal Gear Online and MGS4 the same?

No. In fact, they just released the demo for it this month. While it uses the same engine as MGS4, and a starter pack for MGO was bundeled with MGS4, the first stand alone version was released in Japan back in July.

From the Wiki listing for Metal Gear Online

Metal Gear Online, abbreviated MGO, is a PlayStation 3 exclusive online multiplayer spin-off of the Metal Gear series produced by Konami. Τhe "startup pack" of MGO is bundled with regional versions of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, but also received a standalone release in Japan on July 17 2008. The name Metal Gear Online is common with previous online components for Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence and Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops.

As of November 4, 2008, Metal Gear Online has surpassed 1,000,000 members. To commemorate this occasion, Konami has issued a bonus of 10,000 reward points to all characters who logged in from November 25th to December 9th.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Handling HD isn't the same thing. For one, 720p (0.9MP) has less than half the resolution of 1080p (2.1 MP). Secondly, very few displays can except a 1080p signal from component. In addition, there are almost no games for the 360 that are rendered natively in 1080p. So even with HDMI, almost everything you'll see will still only be in 720p, and if you are using component, then that is almost certainly the case.

The difference between 720P and 1080P doesn't seem that big to me. That's probably because I sit too far away. Either way, most games on the PS3 aren't 1080P.

 

[Moglet]

There is nothing dire about the PSN service, that's pure FUD.

Compared to Live it's terrible. Inviting and communicating with friends is a chore in comparison, the console needs updating so often it's annoying and any updates take so long to download it almost doesn't feel worth it. Wether that's just a UK thing I've no idea but that's what I've experienced so far. Then there's the random disconnecting from my party in WaW which doesn't happen on my 360.

*Prices*
... Heaven forbid you have to replace your 360 out of warranty.

How is replacing the PS3 out of warranty any different?

RE: The prices, if you're talking about massive storage and the highest end consoles then of course it's going to get expensive. I don't see why you're talking about spending money on a 20gb HDD for the 360 when it is available with 60GB on what, IIRC, is the most popular model. I'm talking about the 360 Pro, not the Elite or Arcade, as that's the one most closely matched to the PS3. The prices stand as follows for the basics needed for HD online play (Which most people will be doing these days)in the UK;

360 60gb
Console: £170
Wireless Adapter: £50
XBox Live 12 months: £35
Total: £255

PS3 80gb
Console: £290
Headset: £30
HDMI or Component lead: £20
Total: £340

In the UK I still feel that the 360 is easily the better deal unless you're after Blu Ray playback.

Your anti-PS3 FUD is really intolerable.

To try and downplay or even make up so much crap about the PS3, you would think you are some what afraid of its success? Look, there in nothing wrong with loving your 360, and XBL, but isn't it possible to do that without making crap up about the PS3?

I fail to see where I'm making crap up. I've owned both consoles for the same amount of time, why would I need to make things up? I'm not anti PS3 or I'd never have bought the console

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

The difference between 720P and 1080P doesn't seem that big to me. That's probably because I sit too far away.

Could be depending on the size of the screen, but "blind" tests have shown that anyone with 20:20 vision, corrected or natural, can consistently point out the difference in detail between footage originally shot in 1080p and displayed on identical 1080p displays, with one downscaling it to 720p from a D:W ratio 5:1.

The same is true when comparing footage shot in both 1080p and 720p, and scaling the 720p signal to 1080p. Upscaling does not add any extra detail to an image, it just blows it up.

That would mean if you have a 40" display, you should be able to see the difference from about 15 feet away, or about 9 feet away from a typical computer screen.

Either way, most games on the PS3 aren't 1080P.

Absolutely, and yet far more games are natively rendered in 1080p for the PS3 than for the 360.

Compared to Live it's terrible. Inviting and communicating with friends is a chore in comparison

Terrible? Maybe you don't know how? All it takes is highlighting a friend from your *friends list, pressing the triangle button, and sending them a message, or invite them to chat, or even have a video chat.

* Which incidentally always tells you exactly what game they are playing, and if the developer of that game chooses to, it will even tell you the exact level/chapter/section that person is in.

As far as game invites go, maybe your experience is limited to GT5P (which is very poor), but it is entirely up to the developers as far as lobby and game invites, and many make it very easy to join and or invite your friends in an online game - and those that do not, I still have no trouble getting together with my friends by simply using the in-game XMB message system. If you are having such a problem with it, I'm affarid it says so much more about your limited use, and or your own limitations, than the system.

the console needs updating so often it's annoying

Yeah. It really bites to have a company that is listening to it's users and adding requested new features and support on a regular basis, instead of maybe twice a year.

Speaking of which, how many different media formats does the 360 support?

and any updates take so long to download it almost doesn't feel worth it. Wether that's just a UK thing I've no idea but that's what I've experienced so far. Then there's the random disconnecting from my party in WaW which doesn't happen on my 360.

If that's what you are experiencing then replace or fix your router. There is a lengthy discussion about this, and why it's most likely your issue and not any mysterious PSN service which you claim is so dire.

How is replacing the PS3 out of warranty any different?

Because one has a reported 30%+ failure rate, with countless people and websites reporting the RRoD bricking their 360 outside of the warranty period. The other has a reported failure rate of less than 3%. You do the math.

RE: The prices, if you're talking about massive storage and the highest end consoles then of course it's going to get expensive. I don't see why you're talking about spending money on a 20gb HDD for the 360 when it is available with 60GB on what, IIRC, is the most popular model. I'm talking about the 360 Pro, not the Elite or Arcade, as that's the one most closely matched to the PS3.

The point is that you not only get a heck of a lot more for your money with the PS3, but you not only have to pay unbelievably marked up prices for most of the accessories with the 360, but are also extremely limited to what you can add to it and use with it. Your choice in driving wheels alone is horrible. And while you may not see any reason to need to expand your storage needs, many do, especially those downloading a lot of games, content, and especially movies on their console. With the PS3 you can not only use any external hard drives you like, but you can even replace the HDD with any drive you like and without voiding your warranty.

I fail to see where I'm making crap up.

I've already pointed out several of examples (some of which I see you conveniently didn't even have an answer for)... and yes, posting unsupported FUD, misleading statements and exaggerations are what I call crap.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Could be depending on the size of the screen, but "blind" tests have shown that anyone with 20:20 vision, corrected or natural, can consistently point out the difference in detail between footage originally shot in 1080p and displayed on identical 1080p displays, with one downscaling it to 720p from a D:W ratio 5:1.

The same is true when comparing footage shot in both 1080p and 720p, and scaling the 720p signal to 1080p. Upscaling does not add any extra detail to an image, it just blows it up.

That would mean if you have a 40" display, you should be able to see the difference from about 15 feet away, or about 9 feet away from a typical computer screen.

I haven't really checked closely to see if I noticed a difference, but I think it's just the case that 720P is good enough for me. A year or so ago the only TV I played on could only deliver 480i.

Absolutely, and yet far more games are natively rendered in 1080p for the PS3 than for the 360.

Isn't that because the 360 has none? Do you have the numbers for both consoles? I think they would be interesting.

 

[G.T]

The only difference really in my eyes between the XBL and PSN service is that PSN still isn't as automatically problem-free with all the types of hardware or connection setups that people have, and isn't as user-friendly. People nearly almost never have any problems with connecting to XBL straight away, but there are more people complaining about random disconnects or slow responses from PSN. I used to have these problems originally from it, but updates have fixed these issues and I haven't even changed my hardware or setups in any way.

I feel because our money is fed into the XBL service developers have an easier time to make their games work online. I've personally never had any issues with PSN (played Warhawk, COD4, Wipeout HD and Resistance online), but the lack of party features make it a little awkward to manage. I've not played online for a long time on the PS3 now though, so some of this may have been addressed, but XBL is still the superior online service at the moment due to its reliability and much easier use (espeically after the 8-player party update - instant invites to all players, 8-way chat, etc). But PSN is still very much usable and for a free service, is pretty darn good.


The only difference I've seen through 720p on HDMI vs Component is that the screen is slightly sharper on HDMI, and the blacks and contast are slightly different. It's not worth getting a new console just for HDMI really.

Although, oddly, using component on my new console compared to my old one the image is slightly sharper anyway. Not sure if it's the console hardware that's rendering it better or if it's the new cable that's better.

 

[bevo]

Terrible? Maybe you don't know how? All it takes is highlighting a friend from your *friends list, pressing the triangle button, and sending them a message, or invite them to chat, or even have a video chat.

* Which incidentally always tells you exactly what game they are playing, and if the developer of that game chooses to, it will even tell you the exact level/chapter/section that person is in.

As far as game invites go, maybe your experience is limited to GT5P (which is very poor), but it is entirely up to the developers as far as lobby and game invites, and many make it very easy to join and or invite your friends in an online game - and those that do not, I still have no trouble getting together with my friends by simply using the in-game XMB message system. If you are having such a problem with it, I'm affarid it says so much more about your limited use, and or your own limitations, than the system.

I know that you are an avid ps3 supporter. Really though, the ps3 is way behind the 360 in terms of online play. You have tried to convince me before that I have no idea what I'm talking about. One thing is for certain though, my most used online functions are being able to chat anytime, and being able to easily join other peoples games, no matter what game I am playing. These two features really make online play so much better. The ps3 has neither of those. I would guess that those two features are used more than anything else online other then basic gameplay.

Please, let us non biased ps3-xbox 360 owners have this one statement, so as not to mislead future console buyers.
The ps3 is inferior when it comes to online gaming, but it is not entirely unusable.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

my most used online functions are being able to chat anytime, and being able to easily join other peoples games, no matter what game I am playing. These two features really make online play so much better. The ps3 has neither of those.

And right there you just proved you don't know what you are talking about, and clearly are biased.

You can communicate with anyone on the PSN no matter what game you are playing... and it's extraordinarily easy and quick to do. Saying otherwise is an absolute lie, nor as you already pointed out, is the first time you have criticized the PS3 for things that were completely untrue... so again, how does this make you remotely unbiased?

The ps3 is inferior when it comes to online gaming, but it is not entirely unusable.

Spoken like a true 'unbiased' gamer.

 

[shaka]

I bought Forza Motorsport 2 and Rainbow Six Vegas 2.

WOW no offence but what a terrible way to expend your money that game sucks.

 

[bevo]

And right there you just proved you don't know what you are talking about, and clearly are biased.

You can communicate with anyone on the PSN no matter what game you are playing... and it's extraordinarily easy and quick to do. Saying otherwise is an absolute lie, nor as you already pointed out, is the first time you have criticized the PS3 for things that were completely untrue... so again, how does this make you remotely unbiased?



Spoken like a true 'unbiased' gamer.

Can you really chat with people in game? If I am playing socom, and you are playing gt5p can we chat? If that is so then I will retract my statement. If you can how do you do it, it would make my, and my friends ps3 experience a whole lot better.

I am only biased, because of the current way that the psn, and xbox live operate. If anything changes in the future with the ps3 to over take the 360 online experience, then I will go ps3.

Can you join peoples games from the xmb? If that is so, then I would agree that they are equal.
Those are the 2 most important things to me, and probably most gamers. I know I don't have a fact or statistic to back that up, but I do have years of online gaming experience, and a few real life friends that have both consoles.

I would also like to invite you to a challenge. Lets both determine a time, you start a ps3 demo download of a game, I will start a 360 download at the same time, of the same game. I know that your internet is much faster then mine, I only have a 6mb upload max. I believe you max is 30 mb or something. So in theory yours should download 5 times faster, but I am imagining the 360 will win outright. Installation of the game is also to be included in the overall time.

I know from what you post about me that you don't agree with me on certain issues, but I promise you I will not lie or exaggerate my download time. I will also respect your report of the time your download finishes.

One more thing, are you saying that the psn, is better then xbox live. Do not take the price into consideration, just the experience.

 

[Joey D]

WOW no offence but what a terrible way to expend your money that game sucks.

Uhhh are you serious? They are both excellent games.

Forza 2 received a 90/100 on Metacritic.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/forzamotorsport2?q=Forza 2

Especially when the GT5 only received a 82/100
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2?q=rainbow six 2 vegas

And GT4 received a 89/100
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/granturismo4?q=gran turismo

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 received a 82/100 on the same site.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2?q=rainbow six 2 vegas

Seem pretty respectable to me

 

[Rue]

I bought Forza Motorsport 2 and Rainbow Six Vegas 2.

WOW no offence but what a terrible way to expend your money that game sucks.

Don't worry, as Joey said both games are great fun! I have both in my collection and have put many hours into them. Co-op story and Thunt are awesome on RS6V2.

 

[shaka]

Uhhh are you serious? They are both excellent games.

Forza 2 received a 90/100 on Metacritic.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/forzamotorsport2?q=Forza 2

Especially when the GT5 only received a 82/100
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2?q=rainbow six 2 vegas

And GT4 received a 89/100
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/granturismo4?q=gran turismo

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 received a 82/100 on the same site.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2?q=rainbow six 2 vegas

Seem pretty respectable to me

At what resolution and at how many FPS does forza 2 run?
because that game looks terrible on my 1080p Bravia sometimes like an xbox game, not to mention the selection of cars and tracks is a joke to say the least.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

At what resolution and at how many FPS does forza 2 run?
because that game looks terrible on my 1080p Bravia sometimes like an xbox game, not to mention the selection of cars and tracks is a joke to say the least.

The graphics are not it's strong point. The gameplay is. 👍

Uhhh are you serious? They are both excellent games.

+1 especially Forza 2. To me that's should be an automatic buy for a new 360 owner, especially one who is participating on a forum built on the mutual appreciation of realistic driving games. 👍

I have never played RB62, but as Joey said, the reviews have generally been very good, better than RB6 if I recall.

I'd also highly recommend Fable 2, Mass Effect and definitely Ace Combat 6. They are all superb games. 👍

You can get great deals on Mass Effect and AC6 as they have been out for a while, but are still very much worth owning.

I know from what you post about me that you don't agree with me on certain issues, but I promise you I will not lie or exaggerate my download time.

It's not about disagreeing with you, nor is it about your love for the 360 which you are definitely entitled to feel that way. It is in fact that you have posted several things that were plainly and simply untrue... and I have already posted countless times showing my download times of content and updates off the PSN, and compared to what you claimed you were able to download off the 360, it was already faster. Not only that, but I took a great deal of time to try and help you figure out what was wrong with your router or network settings, but that clearly was waste of my time.

Not only that, while I have clearly explained why it is very much possible for multiple devices on the same network to have different download speeds due to problems with the router. If you have already forgotten, I already posted a link in this thread to one of many times I have explained it, and offered advice on how to fix it.

Bottom line, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if the majority of people downloading content off the PSN are doing so at or near the max limit that their ISP allows and on a regular basis, then those who are not clearly have an issue with their network, router, settings, etc.

You can make an effort to fix it, or just keep complaining about something that is in your control. So far it appears, assuming you are even being truthful about your download speeds, which I highly doubt considering how many times you have said things about the PS3 that were not true, and exaggerated the facts to suit your agenda, I suspect you'll continue to do the later.

One more thing, are you saying that the psn, is better then xbox live. Do not take the price into consideration, just the experience.

Well first of all price is an issue otherwise why did it come up, and second of all I never said it was better, and in fact I have posted on several occasions that XBL in terms of the ease at which it is to join your friends has been and remains much better than the PS3, and have also said I understand why many people do not have an issue with paying $50 a year for the service.

However, that's a far cry from someone saying point blank that the PSN is dire, and compared to Live it's terrible or that the PSN is not entirely unusable... which are absurd comments when in fact it it's proven to be more stable than XBL over the last 12 months, with several of the games being hosted on dedicated servers and not just P2P like on XBL.

In addition, the PSN offers many nice features that are lacking in XBL, and those comments are even more absurd based on the fact that you can effectively do many of the things you have claimed are not even possible... heck even Moglet admitted that you can invite and communicate with friends on PSN, something you apparently are still convinced isn't possible.



Look, I'm going to keep responding as long as people keep posting false claims, but make no mistake about it, seeing as you have never even admitted to posting false information about the PS3 before, I don't expect you to now, or no matter what hoops you would like me to jump through for your amusement.

All I would ask is you to realize that you do a disservice to this site and all of it’s members when you knowingly post false, misleading or inaccurate posts… and yes, exaggerations are exactly that.

 

[Joey D]

At what resolution and at how many FPS does forza 2 run?
because that game looks terrible on my 1080p Bravia sometimes like an xbox game, not to mention the selection of cars and tracks is a joke to say the least.

I have a 40" LCD Sony Bravia 1080p model KDL-40V2500 (I will prove to you I have it if I need to) and Forza looks fine on it, as does Rainbox Six: Vegas 2. Actually I have no complaints about how any 360 game looks on my TV.

Forza also has a decent car selection, I believe over 300 vehicles to choose from and race on I believe 47 tracks. How that is a joke is beyond me. Please, stop with the fanboy...errr fangirl barring you aren't lying about who you are in the "Pics of yourself" thread. I think you are lying though.

If you are playing a racing game for it's visuals you obviously missed the point of it and fail.

I'd also highly recommend Fable 2, Mass Effect and definitely Ace Combat 6. They are all superb games. 👍

You can get great deals on Mass Effect and AC6 as they have been out for a while, but are still very much worth owning.

Fable 2 is good for a short while, but like the last instalment of the game it's over way to quick. I haven't played AC6 yet, although it can be had used for about $20. Mass Effect ranks up there as one of the best RPG's I have ever played, at least on a console. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes RPG's in the slightest. Although it's more action oriented in nature it has quite a few RPG elements. It should be about $30 used as well and is good for at least 20 hours of gameplay if you are the type that only play games once. I've played through it three times so far and considering starting a forth.

 

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