So I'm getting an Integra...

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Well sorry if this is short or not comprehensive but I don't think I have much time to write this. I'll be getting an Integra GS-R in the next few months (I can start driving in May)

I will modify it. The only questions I have for yall are engine mods. I can do a Vortech supercharger in it which would make sick amounts of power! However, I have a concern. I don't really care if it's supercharged or turbocharged, I love the individual whines of each. However, I know that in a turbocharged car, when on the highway or at a constant speed, you can get off boost which saves a lot of gas. I can also keep my engine going longer by dialing down the boost from the cockpit and turning it up when I need it, whereas a supercharger would take a whole pulley swap.

I just want to know whether you think, for my application, I should go turbo or supercharger. I love superchargers, and Vortech's kit looks killer, but I think I may be leaning to turbo.
 
It's a two edged blade. I've never seen anyone make good amounts of power with superchargers on B-Series engines, whereas it's easy to extract 300whp with a turbo, and then the sky's the limit, providing you've got the money to do so. The downfall is that a turbo setup is going to be less reliable, and slightly more high strung than a supercharger, or a well sorted naturally aspirated setup.

I personally don't like superchargers on small engines... I'd rather go turbo, but then again I am a power junkie. :D
 
Pull a delta and put both on!!

I think it realy depends on what you want out of the car. Are you looking to slightly bump up the power or completely drag out it?
 
I'm not looking for a 400whp car, or even a 300whp car (well...maybe :sly:). I'm just lookin to get more scoot out of the Teg, but enough to justify the cost of a turbo setup. And, of course, I'm looking for enough power to beat my friend's R32 :lol: ;)
 
I would reccomend very small-low-boost turbo on stock compression rate(for better low-end power) whether you swap internals is up to your wallet... just don't go more than 7lbs on stock internals
 
Integra GSR? For highway driveability, a supercharger would be swell. That should be around 240 hp, and you don't really need much more than that for giggles.

You can go the small turbo route, though, but the supercharger will be smoother.
 
Why not just build up the motor without forced induction? I'm sure you could get 250hp without f/i although I'm not sure what the GSR motor is or what kinda power it starts with.

But you could do:

Exhaust
CAI
Header
Computer
Ignition
Cams
Cam gears
Fuel Rail
etc.

And it would more then likely be cheaper then a f/i system, although I could be wrong.
 
I think one of the Super Moderators has an Integra, but I'm not sure.
 
Go with a small turbo and 9-10:1 compression, but no more than 5-6psi. You'll probably need stronger internals, but the response when you hit the go pedal will be nasty. High compression/low boost works well and makes for tons of response and power.

You probably never make more than 200-250whp out of that car without the motor being a grenade waiting to explode, so take that into consideration. Not that you really need more than that anyway.
 
B-series DOHC VTEC motors don't actually respond too great to Forced Induction. I'd go for building a strong N/A.
 
I was going to do some internals anyways, because I'm going to buy the car before I get my license. It won't make a difference to me to take extra time to take apart the motor, so I figured I'd go ahead and do it while I could.

A low-to-medium boost setup with new internals could be allowed to run a bit rich and off boost and still make the same power as a strained NA motor. I also love the kick of turbo spool :lol: Plus, think about the fact that turbo spool won't be a factor because it's not like the Honda engine would have any torque down low anyways :lol:
 
Well, the point of low boost/high compression is to give the motor low end grunt, which is something a Honda motor needs.
 
Not that I really need it, I mean sure it's nice but if I really want power it'll be from a roll. Not saying I'll be street racing (really) but that's not what I want the turbo for. I'm not a drag racer and anyways, low-end grunt is bad when combined with FWD ;). I'm still thinking about the pistons/internals, because doing so costs more money. So does keeping up with a higher boost setup (maybe 11 vs 6psi)
 
I hope internals aren't a problem, I just stated that in case for some reason the compression on the stock motor was lower or higher than 9-10:1.

There's a turbocharged 4.9 in a Fiero running 5psi, 9.5:1 CR, making 288hp and 349ft/lbs to the wheels that's made over 400 1/4 mile passes, and there has never been a problem.

Low end grunt in a FWD is only a problem if the maker of the vehicle didn't know what they were doing ;)
 
Quarter mile passes my car will make: 0. I'm just sayin that I have different priorities. By 4.9 do you mean...litres? Because 5psi in a 5litre engine is a lot different than 10 in a 1.8 ;). The numbers aren't bad though...
 
My friend, do you have any idea how much insuring an Integra costs? I love mine, but it's not the greatest "first car".

Just to continue being contrary, I'd say do a few autocrosses before you modify the car at all. If you don't think it's a better expenditure of your money, well...I can't help you. Try it first is all I'm saying. That's what I'd do if I had it to do all over again.
 
If I had an integra, I'd do catback exhaust, CAI, performance camshafts, performance headers, and an ECU. My friend has a GS (or something like that) with around the same setup and it's really quick just for a ride-around-and-have-fun car.

Don't forget an air bypass valve if you do get the CAI, I;ve seen people destroy their motors in puddles without one.
 
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