So it begins - Paid DLC apparently, starting off with those new premium upgrades

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Looking at the actual patent http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0312969.html it doesn't specifiy PS3 anywhere... it simply patents adding external upgrade too existing hardware. It could be an addon to let your Bravia TV push a roomba vacumm cleaner around.

The PSlifetyle story was a big presumptuos. At best I would imagine it's a patent for a type of connector they might add to the PS4 in the future.

I also looked at the patent,and while it doesn't specify a direct PS3 application,it is mention how can it be applicable to the PS3 hardware,the news about this are not only sourced by Sony style there are other sites that hold these news(not everything is copypasted).

I really couldn't believe Sony would do an external add one processor... I mean I don't even know where it would go (what external port on the PS3 has bus speed high enough to make an external prcessor of any value?) and we such things have never been successful (remember the N64 had a RAM addon) and fragment the community.

I do believe that as well(almost all external add ons tents to fail,PS2 HD as an example)but there are methods for improving the PS3 power,not by using a single processor,but using a "card" that acts like a RAM memory that then is managed by a single processor while the processor does all the job is possible(not effective but possible)making the memory transfer speed the real problem that could be solved by using HD ports on the PS3.

As long as companies can relay on these ideas,the development for a console is hold,but as I said before I would not make any sense if Sony or Microsoft start develop platform that are only available in a small market.
 
To be honest, as imperfect as it is, I can't complain about value for money with GT5. I have already played it for well over 100 hours and am still enjoying it. It makes many games that give you about 40 hours storyline look like ripoffs.

It'd be nice if they gave us some patches to update gameplay and to maybe give us some of the features we've asked for such as AI that doesn't try to kill you, and I think patches like that should be free but I'd be happy to pay for extra content such as interesting car packs as long as they don't take the micky with the pricing.
 
Nonsense,Sony plans are to maintain PS3 platform until 2014,they will not waste millions on development when games market is most profitable than ever,we will see some hardware updates like the ones on segas one decade ago,and GT6 will be on PS3 because is less complicated and more profitable,the whole rush for GT5 is just to let two GT games over the same platform,and we already know that GT games bad or not bad sells by millions(like 63 mill by now).

So that must mean that GT6 will be on the PS3 then, and we will have GT7 on the PS4 in the future. Developers are starting to get the most out of the Ps3 now, and I think they may find it's power limit soon. We all know GT5 is on that limit, so a GT6, which will most likely be on the PS3, will not be a very significant improvement. It will probably be like GT4 in relation to GT3, improved graphics, more cars and tracks, new features, not like a big step up again.
 
I also looked at the patent,and while it doesn't specify a direct PS3 application,it is mention how can it be applicable to the PS3 hardware,the news about this are not only sourced by Sony style there are other sites that hold these news(not everything is copypasted).



I do believe that as well(almost all external add ons tents to fail,PS2 HD as an example)but there are methods for improving the PS3 power,not by using a single processor,but using a "card" that acts like a RAM memory that then is managed by a single processor while the processor does all the job is possible(not effective but possible)making the memory transfer speed the real problem that could be solved by using HD ports on the PS3.

As long as companies can relay on these ideas,the development for a console is hold,but as I said before I would not make any sense if Sony or Microsoft start develop platform that are only available in a small market.


There is still no external connector on the PS3 available with bus speed anywhere near fast enough to be useful...\

Edit: Quoted the wrong post.
 
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They already updated the PS3 and PS2. The PS3 PS2 Slim?
It uses less power and is cooler so how is that against the business model?

That is not an upgrade that makes the latest games run better on the new machines and worse on the old machines, there is no difference. The model is to not disadvantage the owners of original play-stations. There will never be a faster PS3.
 
I hope this is wrong. Paying for premium upgrades? I feel backstabed! After all the negative stuff we went through while waiting for GT5, now they´re charging us for what was suppose to be in the game already? I don´t mind paying for new cars, but this? After all the controversy involved on the standard-premium rubbish? I don´t know... The future of Gran Turismo, and all videogames is comming to light. There will be one day when you only get the installment of the game when you purchase it, and then you´ll have to pay for every single thing on it: levels, cars, characters, music, etc. I feel terrible.


Who gives a crap about the underside of the cars. If you're anal enough to roll your car just to check thats cool. It is a waste of time that can be utilized on other car details (ie. converting some standards to premium spec). A flat black surface underneath is fine by me. Anybody else?

Yes. I agree, my friend:tup:
 
I hope this is wrong. Paying for premium upgrades? I feel backstabed! After all the negative stuff we went through while waiting for GT5, now they´re charging us for what was suppose to be in the game already? I don´t mind paying for new cars, but this? After all the controversy involved on the standard-premium rubbish? I don´t know... The future of Gran Turismo, and all videogames is comming to light. There will be one day when you only get the installment of the game when you purchase it, and then you´ll have to pay for every single thing on it: levels, cars, characters, music, etc. I feel terrible.

That model already exists. iRacing.com, monthly fee + have to pay for additional tracks and cars. Of course, I think the racing on there is awesome and if I had more time I would happily be forking over the cost.

I don't feel ripped off, and will happily pay for premium upgrades on standard cars provided they are a reasonable price of just a couple of dollars. And that it's a car I want to drive anyway. PD should have just dropped the standard models anyway so we could just focus on complaining their are only 200 cars.
 
Actually the concept of expansion packs and DLC available for purchase as future enhancements and expanding game play is just one of the things that current gaming consoles adds to their depth from previous generation consoles.

Computer gaming has been doing such additions for decades and that was one of the big advantages they held over the previous consoles was that once a game was released on the console that was it, there were no future additions or upgrades available to extend the life of said game.

Now we have the ability through such downloadable content to add much to the game, whether it be through new tracks, racing series or even a-spec career modes that focus on different series or racing classes.

Personally I welcome that a console now has the capability to be able to add expansion packs with new venues and so forth. Can greatly expand the lifespan where a game stays fresh and fun to play.

I have several computer games where I have bought expansion packs that the content of such was well worth the price of admission and greatly extended the fun and life of a game that I already enjoyed playing.

So if the GT5 series were to make available expansion packs that added reasonable amounts of new content such as tracks, racing series or events and were priced reasonably I for one would not have a problem purchasing such content to extend my enjoyment of the game.

Expansion packs or DLC you have to purchase shouldn't be about fixing broken aspects of the game, that is what the patches are for but rather to add more to have to play in the game.

Personally I think that that the ability to be able to enhance gameplay on a console with downloads increases the consoles validity as a true gaming machine on a much closer level to the PC than in the past.

Bring on some nice expansion packs and I for one will open my wallet if the price versus the content is good!
 
Actually the concept of expansion packs and DLC available for purchase as future enhancements and expanding game play is just one of the things that current gaming consoles adds to their depth from previous generation consoles.

Computer gaming has been doing such additions for decades and that was one of the big advantages they held over the previous consoles was that once a game was released on the console that was it, there were no future additions or upgrades available to extend the life of said game.

Now we have the ability through such downloadable content to add much to the game, whether it be through new tracks, racing series or even a-spec career modes that focus on different series or racing classes.

Personally I welcome that a console now has the capability to be able to add expansion packs with new venues and so forth. Can greatly expand the lifespan where a game stays fresh and fun to play.

I have several computer games where I have bought expansion packs that the content of such was well worth the price of admission and greatly extended the fun and life of a game that I already enjoyed playing.

So if the GT5 series were to make available expansion packs that added reasonable amounts of new content such as tracks, racing series or events and were priced reasonably I for one would not have a problem purchasing such content to extend my enjoyment of the game.

Expansion packs or DLC you have to purchase shouldn't be about fixing broken aspects of the game, that is what the patches are for but rather to add more to have to play in the game.

Personally I think that that the ability to be able to enhance gameplay on a console with downloads increases the consoles validity as a true gaming machine on a much closer level to the PC than in the past.

Bring on some nice expansion packs and I for one will open my wallet if the price versus the content is good!

While DLC certainly does offere the ability to add onto a game with reasonably priced extras, it also offers the ability to short change the initial sale and make more profit off the game down the road essentially making the "real" price of the game more than the original $60.

Now given how businesses work and how they are legally obligated to their share holders to make as much money as possible, which do you think will happen more often?

Sure we get things like BFBC2 which has given us plenty of great maps for free and their $15 Vietnam pack (while not necessarily liked by all) represents a good deal of content for $15.

Then we have CoD which has been milking the expansions hard with blops just recieving it's first map pack already.

The important thing to do is realize that just because DLC CAN be good extra value doesn't mean it IS.

I will be interested to see what happens to all the old GT4 tracks that even made it into GTPSP but somehow didn't get converted into GT5... I can think of no logical reason to not port them in other than to sell them at a later date for more $$$.

Reasonably priced additions can make a great $60 game a greater $75 game. However DLC milking can also effectively make you pay $100 in the end before you get what you should have gotten for $60.

The rule I always go by is this: If I had walked into the store and the game had the additional DLC content added but the price was also higher respectively, would I still find it a good value?

BFBC2 with all it's maps and Vietnam expansion sounds like a lot of value even for $75.

Conversly MW2 with it's 2 map packs for $90 doesn't.

See where I am going with that?

And at the end of the day even BFBC2 has a questionable charge: if you want to use it on more than one PSN account, it's an extra $10 VIP charge.
 
I'd be more than happy with 1 new track and 5 related premium cars. For example:
British pack: Goodwood circuit and hillclimb/Silverstone and Aston Martin DBS, Vantage, V12 Vantage, one-77 and DB5
Ferrari legends: Fiorano test circuit and the Ferrari 599GTO, 288GTO, 250GTO, FXX, and 458 italia challenge prototype

All this for £5 would be very reasonable
 
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