So it begins - Paid DLC apparently, starting off with those new premium upgrades

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Quantity of events and prices of the most expensive cars in the current game = more events added via dlc and online credits simples :). Whether it will be paid or free is another matter but if it is paid dlc they will not be the first to do this or the last so what's the big deal?
 
If PD released weekly DLC I'd buy it.

I've waited long enought for GT5 and am willing to pay for more content (patches should be free), I'm quite happy for GT6 to be released on PS4.
 
Meh, paying for cars that are not in the game already is something I'd be willing to do.
Paying for cars that are in the game as standards just to get them as premiums?

If I can freely mix and match the cars I want to see in a pack, I guess I will get one or two to get the cars I like the most as premiums.
If we just get packs that consist of, dunno, eight cars that totally suck, an okay one and one awesome car, I won't touch it. Not worth it, in my opinion.

Depending on how fast they provide us with these upgraded cars, I will only further the thought that they deliberately excluded premium cars from the release version of GT5 to sell them to us now. Again, that's one thing to do it with cars that are not in the game at all. Doing it with stuff you added previously to get to the number of 1000 cars? I don't like the sound of that.
 
If PD released weekly DLC I'd buy it.

I've waited long enought for GT5 and am willing to pay for more content (patches should be free), I'm quite happy for GT6 to be released on PS4.

Me too....I'd buy it and look forward to it to.

I'd prefer to see extra tracks added though. Happy to pay reasonable money for Spa-Francorchamps for example.

...but fix the shadows for free please....... :crazy:
 
i can't believe that people are complaining that they might have to pay for standard to premium upgrade. Do you expect the workers at PD to do their job for free?
Of course they are going to cost something, they are are company its what companies do : make money. :dunce:
 
i can't believe that people are complaining that they might have to pay for standard to premium upgrade. Do you expect the workers at PD to do their job for free?
Of course they are going to cost something, they are are company its what companies do : make money. :dunce:

Making money doesn't equal making money. It all depends on the method you're using.

As I said, it depends on what you're getting for your money.
 
It befuddles me that some posters do not see the slippery slope voting for paid DLC is (voting with your wallet by buying it).

With the best will in the world, what will happen over time is that the bean-counters will make sure that DLC is developed for later release so that they can make more profit from the product.

What's up with that?

If it is something that the developers came up with later that they think is really cool and will add to their game then nothing at all.

If it is something that was already developed and held back for profit purposes then quite a bit.

Why? Because these are just games, my fellow players, the price of which is already far too high for what they are (especially when you include the cost of the hardware to play them on). Raking in more scheckles for something that could have been included in the 'sticker price' release is what might be politely termed a 'sharp' business practice.

Darn - got to go and eat. Apologies for the incomplete train of thought.
 
Even if they work right up to the deadline to add more cars and tracks before the game has to be handed over to gold, they don't stop work at that point. They can still be making more cars even get some finished before the game is released. They won't make it to the the game because it's already finished.

That doesn't mean they are holding content back. It just can't be fitted in at that point. I have no problem at all buying that as DLC.
 
I'm just hoping this game (and all games in the future) don't become some Mafia2.
released as an incomplete game, where parts of the story were cut out to sell them later as DLC with some other person you were playing.
 
If it isn't like a premiumized Group B car, Group C car or a Classic racecar like the Chaparral 2D or 2J I'm not buying it. Or muscle car.
 
and the torrents have seen a 19 gb dump of the game so I don't know that you can really credit size on disc... Not that there couldn't have been two discs if need be anyway.

Hardly a convincing counter argument considering the compression ratio's you can squeeze into torrents, i've seen 30 gig Blu-ray movies compressed to 5 gig before.
 
Even if they work right up to the deadline to add more cars and tracks before the game has to be handed over to gold, they don't stop work at that point. They can still be making more cars even get some finished before the game is released. They won't make it to the the game because it's already finished.

That doesn't mean they are holding content back. It just can't be fitted in at that point. I have no problem at all buying that as DLC.

Justifying DLC with a time constraint argument is laughable.... Five. Years. I became an Engineer in less time. And considering Kaz said they were ready to release a year ago, I'd say your argument is pretty much a fallacy (even though I put no trust in what Kaz or Polyphony says).

Say what you described was the real situation. From a business side of view, it's horrible. You try and avoid finishing things at the last moment, let alone sending the customer the unfinished bits after sale (a direct result of you leaving it till the last minute).

A product should be out the door on time, thoroughly checked before it goes out said door, receive feedback from customer that job was 100%, move on to the next job (usually straight after the last job). That's how, as a business, you survive.
 
I'll gladly pay for NEW cars (maybe some really good Standard to Premiums), and Tracks..
There's content in this game for plenty of years, if you know how to use it and not just consider it "finished" after you complete the A and B spec. :rolleyes:
Just think of number of car/track combos you can have and try your best on it. I counted "just" the Premium cars and Real tracks, and even then the number is mind boggling..
 
PD/Sony will never make you PAY for standard to premium cars conversions, since those models are already in GT5. Mark my words.
I can't believe there are people seriously thinking about it....
 
PD/Sony will never make you PAY for standard to premium cars conversions, since those models are already in GT5. Mark my words.
I can't believe there are people seriously thinking about it....

People also claimed that PD/Kaz would never release an unfinished game :lol:

Let's face it, PD is just the same kind of money-hungry, heartless company as any other out there. I, for one, lost any kind of special appreciation I've had for them.
 
PD/Sony will never make you PAY for standard to premium cars conversions, since those models are already in GT5. Mark my words.
I can't believe there are people seriously thinking about it....

Vibes I will make a mental note of that mate.
 
Justifying DLC with a time constraint argument is laughable.... Five. Years. I became an Engineer in less time. And considering Kaz said they were ready to release a year ago, I'd say your argument is pretty much a fallacy (even though I put no trust in what Kaz or Polyphony says).

Say what you described was the real situation. From a business side of view, it's horrible. You try and avoid finishing things at the last moment, let alone sending the customer the unfinished bits after sale (a direct result of you leaving it till the last minute).

A product should be out the door on time, thoroughly checked before it goes out said door, receive feedback from customer that job was 100%, move on to the next job (usually straight after the last job). That's how, as a business, you survive.

Correct. In a perfect world. The problem is how do we know what goes on in PD? This game looks to me like Sony saying to PD "release the game now" rather than Kaz saying to Sony "Here is the game. It's ready for release".
 
Correct. In a perfect world. The problem is how do we know what goes on in PD? This game looks to me like Sony saying to PD "release the game now" rather than Kaz saying to Sony "Here is the game. It's ready for release".

Given the time they spend on GT5, is it unreasonable that Sony forced to release it?

Other companies have to work with stricter dead lines and still bring more finished products to the table.
 
Correct. In a perfect world. The problem is how do we know what goes on in PD? This game looks to me like Sony saying to PD "release the game now" rather than Kaz saying to Sony "Here is the game. It's ready for release".

There wouldn't be a GT5 with that thinking.
 
Paid DLC,what else did you people expect,free unlimited content for 60 bucks?

It was complete expected,point paid DLC as something wrong is just putting more fuel on the fire,besides everyone can see it coming:

1st Update -> 10 to 20 cars,3 free cars,GT classic tracks(midfield,El capitan,Grindewalt/maybe/).

2st Update -> 10 to 20 cars,3 free cars,GT classic city tracks(New York,Hong Kong,Seoul,Cote di azur,cote di amalfi)

This thread is making a big deal about something that was complete expected,at least PD is not slaping you in the face by introducing $10 DLC for 5 cars.
 
And since when did this turn into an Anti-Capitalist thread?

When people started realizing "Capitalism" is just the word that happens to describe how the consumer is screwed these days.

Just like "Free market economy" doesn't mean the best value wins, it means charge as much you can get the customer to pay regardless of actual value and remember people will pay almost and amount as long as the cost comes in bite sized chunks they can rationalize away.

Deve all your posts make me hungry.

There is something to be said about that... I just remember steak is on sale this week at my local grocer... time to stock up!

The bottom line is we all knew what we were getting before we bought it, PD released a track list and a car list, if you thought you should be getting more then you shouldn't have bought the game, quite simple really.

And I'd just like to add that I'll happily pay for any DLC that catches my eye, whatever the cost, with pleasure.

See Mig:

Mig
i didnt know if standard cars had cockpit or not... i searched only to find threads after threads of people saying yes AND no.
i didnt know gt5 had 5 year olds making the menu's
i didnt know we would have to go on and on with this ridiculous xp and money grinding
i didnt know b spec's prize money would be an absolute joke
i didnt know taking the license test's are pointless

can go on and on

the thing is they made this game and had a massive timeframe to do it and they still managed to give it a shiney paint job of 'midnight rush"

there is no way they should even be talking about DLC untill they fix the pile of 🤬 they left at our doorsteps

Truth is no one knew what they were getting and this is largely right on PDs shoulders. As I brought up before "lies of omission".

This wasn't helped by the fact there was a review embargo and reviewer copies were shipped out quite late.

Sorry n64doc, you just can't make the argument we knew what we were getting... if there is one thing you can safely say about GT5 and PD it's that they made it impossible to know almost anything for certain.

i can't believe that people are complaining that they might have to pay for standard to premium upgrade. Do you expect the workers at PD to do their job for free?
Of course they are going to cost something, they are are company its what companies do : make money. :dunce:

As I said before, no, I expect to get my monies worth... the money I already paid.

That's not expecting free work, that's the opposite of free, it's pre paid work!

Hardly a convincing counter argument considering the compression ratio's you can squeeze into torrents, i've seen 30 gig Blu-ray movies compressed to 5 gig before.

:ouch:

You cannot compare compressing video to compressing data (to begin with lossy vs lossless make them two entirely different camps). There is a reason you can get a 4GB DVD to fit on a 700MB CDR but you will never see a 4GB DVD game zipped down to 700MB.

I am sorry but this is a case of you really shouldn't be talking because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
 
I would gladly pay for certain DLC. Actually, it's a perfect system to introduce premium models to already existing standard cars. Perfect for us I mean.

If the models they upgrade aren't the ones you like or wanted you don't have to buy them. It would be pretty frustrating if they started upgrading standard models and hit all the ones I didn't want.
 
I would gladly pay for certain DLC. Actually, it's a perfect system to introduce premium models to already existing standard cars. Perfect for us I mean.

If the models they upgrade aren't the ones you like or wanted you don't have to buy them. It would be pretty frustrating if they started upgrading standard models and hit all the ones I didn't want.

Your logic bottles my mind.
 
Converting Standard Cars into Premium Cars is not a good course of action for GT5 DLC.
Nobody wants to see 35 Premium Mazda Miatas, 70 Premium Nissan Skylines, or the 500+ sub-100 hp economy cars that have absolutely no place on a racetrack.
DLC Tracks is far better proposition, provided that they don't consist of more sub-variants of the same track.
 
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