Sony Honda Mobility Afeela 1

[Famine]

Does this mean I can finally delete it from my garage?

It likely has zero consequence for GT7. It may have a consequence for GT8, most likely - unless something dramatic changes - the absence of the car/brand.

 

[05XR8]

Yeah, could go the way of the Fittipaldi EF7.

 

[FaithJonesFEM]

@Famine: Let's see if you can answer a couple simple questions then. Assuming that this "prolonged period" thing you 've been yapping about is defined by the SAE. 1)How long is it? And 2)Why is it that long?

@McLaren: No, you 're playing dirty here. The "not on paper" statement refers to completely autonomous vehicles, whereas the supposedly "contradictory" statement refers to what is indeed mandatory (with that special and practically meaningless exception already mentioned). If you lot aren't trying to cover up some sort of corruption scandal, you 're doing nothing.

@eran0004: Try scrutinising the other side the same way. Till then I 'll be ignoring you.

 

[Famine]

you've been yapping about

Try again, but this time without the petulance.

Even so, thus far you have acknowledged absolutely nothing, you dodge everything, and you are absolutely unwilling to learn. I give you information and evidence, and you insist you're still right because of an anecdote, or a personal redefinition, or just hand-waving it away as it's inconvenient. The rest of your paragraph is yet another attempt at that, and is pure bad faith (appositely).

It's well past the time you show that you merit any further conversation, and nobody owes you a thing until (at least) then.

Edit: No, that doesn't mean make more bad-faith posts.

 

[eran0004]

@eran0004: Try scrutinising the other side the same way. Till then I 'll be ignoring you.

The "other side" is published in a peer reviewed journal, they are scrutinised.

 

[McLaren]

@McLaren: No, you 're playing dirty here.

Nope, just quoting your own words as you move goal posts.

We’re done here.

 

[Keef]

"The shareholders will grumble if we keep putting money into this instead of in their pockets, and we can't risk upsetting them!"

I suppose, but they also have to account for how much other EV brands are able to establish themselves due to lack of competition. I could be that by the time Honda et al re-enters the US EV market both Rivian and Lucid have three cars on offer, one of each with a more affordable offering. Hyundai and GM could absolutely dominate in multiple segments.

I think this could be a sign that Honda is in dire times brand-wise. They offer nothing but commuter cars which are exactly the type most likely to become electrified. We know that EV trucks, EV sports cars, EV off-roaders, and compact EVs don't sell worth a damn in the US but that's fine because they weren't working on any of those.

 

[tankuroded]

I think this could be a sign that Honda is in dire times brand-wise.

They currently don't even perform well in F1 and MotoGP, if it matters, and even almost jumped ship off IndyCar (only not to as that would have killed the series) and went over 3 cars in 6 seasons in Super GT.

Also, remember their Japan employees telling the CEO to resign?

 

[tankuroded]

Cross-posting from the IMSA thread - looks like this failure may as well lead to the IMSA program being killed after this season.

 

[Gerarghini]

As of 2026, Acura doesn't offer a single car with an electric powerplant (EV or hybrid).

You would think shoving the hybrid drivetrain from the Civic hybrid into the Integra or ADX would be a no-brainer, so there's probably some executive somewhere intentionally trying to steer the company into complete irrelevancy like Infiniti

 

[Keef]

As of 2026, Acura doesn't offer a single car with an electric powerplant (EV or hybrid).

You would think shoving the hybrid drivetrain from the Civic hybrid into the Integra or ADX would be a no-brainer, so there's probably some executive somewhere intentionally trying to steer the company into complete irrelevancy like Infiniti

I think Acura's use of hybrid depends on the success of the Prelude philosophy. The base level of quality for all cars has gone up so high that all brands like Acura in that middle range are struggling for identity.

 

[tankuroded]

Cross-posting from the IMSA thread - looks like this failure may as well lead to the IMSA program being killed after this season.

This is now official.

 

[Gerarghini]

On top of that, Honda has announced their withdrawal from the Korean market.

Not a good time to be a Honda executive

 

[05XR8]

Interesting how sales of the Super-One will fair here, in Australia. It'll be a low volume car and no doubt it's Kei car cuteness will help.
The ZERO SUV is supposedly next to arrive. Really hope Honda can make a comeback.

 

[Keef]

Cross-posting from the IMSA thread - looks like this failure may as well lead to the IMSA program being killed after this season.

This is now official.

I think this is also related to the long-questioned decision to enter Acura in IMSA, effectively preventing the car from competing at Le Mans. Obviously IMSA is much more cost-effective than WEC, but Honda is a global automaker and outside of Japan and the US has virtually zero automotive racing presence.

Acura as an IndyCar sponsor makes sense because it's a US domestic brand and a domestic series. The IMSA chassis is great but it needs to be rebranded as Honda so it can run in both IMSA and WEC and get the motorsports presence that they deserve.

Honda is spending an incredible amount of money on F1 and having a time of it, but to see them backing down from the most cost-effective motorsports possible is kind of ridiculous. Hopefully they're using the opportunity to rearrange their series branding.