SONY rules out PS3 price cut!!

[mafia_boy]

Whoa. I have two kids and my own "debts" that I take care of. I had to use borrowed money to get my PS3 on 2 days notice in 06. I dont make bundles of cash. I dont drink or smoke or waste money. I just got another PS3 that I had to borrow money for when mine broke. But I'm paying my friend back in car drawings and thats time consuming lol. I do have everything I need and i spend money on things I need and things I dont need with extra cash. I dont rely on tax returns for anything so i was able to use that money for whatever. Just an example of all people are different and we dont have nice things because we are rich.

See, you're the typical hard worker I was explaining about LaBounti who scrimps, saves and even borrows just so he can afford to get a PS3. I give nothing but props to you for doing it because it is hard in these times. 👍 From the tone and nature of your post, you perfectly illustrate that you aren't sticking your nose in the air or looking down at others who don't have a PS3 unlike some others.

well i dont know how old you are, but if you are younger then me (24), then it is your own fault for having kids at such a young age.

Well, since you don't know me I'll inform you that I'm actually older than you and had my son at an age older than you currently are, so your argument there is null-in-void. Personally, if I was in a different mood I would've been more offended with the "it's your own fault" bit for actually having a child in the first place. We don't decide when we have kids, and it's not like I set a timetable to become a parent either.

i bought the ps3 in december 31 2006 for $599, i will freely admit i also bought a 2 year warranty, so the price was $750. with my own $, i wanted it so i bought it. people seem to forget the price of most things is irrelevant if they can afford it/barely afford it and if they DESIRE IT AND WILL MAKE THEM HAPPY.
i would also go out on a limb and say i wouldnt mind being broke to have the things i want in life, you only live once anyways.

Which is why I spent THOUSANDS of dollars on relocating and paying for a modified car, to make my family happy. Why drive GT5P when you can do it for real. I went out on a limb for the car I always wanted to own to keep the family satisfied. It seems that my priorities are better set out in that aspect, because I'd rather be broke getting something nice for the missus or the family, hence all the money on my car. Car > PS3. I can't drive my family around on a PS3 or on GT5P.

with that said, people that are crying for a price drop for a ps3 need to be slapped in the back of their heads.
i dont even want to go into a deeper rant about how the ps3 is worth more then the price dropped 399.
& i make government wages so i can say that i dont make **** for money.

Without breaking the AUP, I can't say too much to retort to this absolutely brain dead section of comment you've made, except that slapping you would be too light a response from myself. It may be $399 in the US, but not here where our gaming environment is totally screwed up as mentioned before. But you should work for our government, they pay well to public servants but screw everyone else over.

Casio - That was a nice breakdown with the prices but it only illustrates my point more, we are being shafted when it comes to the retail price for the systems themselves. 👍 Even with conversion rates and shipping I think I could get a PS3 from OS cheaper than I could here by about $100!! The game conversion rates was better for us, only marginally though. But it was very informative as always from you.

 

[Casio]

Casio - That was a nice breakdown with the prices but it only illustrates my point more, we are being shafted when it comes to the retail price for the systems themselves. 👍 Even with conversion rates and shipping I think I could get a PS3 from OS cheaper than I could here by about $100!! The game conversion rates was better for us, only marginally though. But it was very informative as always from you.

It's only due to market factors that the PS3 is more expensive, not the fault of Sony deliberately trying to shaft us though, take off %10 GST and the $700 PS3 is now $630 ($491USD). That's only about $90 more than the US price*, and America has cities almost as big as our entire Country's population, so obviously Sony can afford to cut the price of systems in higher selling markets.

I don't disagree that it is an expensive system, but I don't think it is unreasonably so.



*Though it's really not fair to make direct comparisons based on currency conversions, as only a couple of months ago the value of our dollar meant that we actually got a PS3 cheaper than the US when converting to US dollars.

 

[Tornado]

PS3, and any console for that matter, is also a whole lot less useful than a PC.

As has been said, not that much so. I almost bought a PS3 solely to use it as a new computer before I chickened out and bought my laptop.

And even when you do have to upgrade a PC you are looking at a graphics card for the most part which isn't that expensive.

I think that largely depends on your PC update cycle as well as the type of PC that you would normally buy. If you keep a PC or about as long as you keep a console (5-6 years or so) than I can easily imagine it being more expensive to upgrade a PC than buying a new console.

And if Sony sells their console at a loss then they have terrible business practices. I can understand selling at a loss during the introductory phase to some degree but the PS3 has been out how long now?

Microsoft never made any money on the original XBox, and that was just a bunch of PC components binned from Newegg in a horizontal case.

I now have an Xbox 360. If the PS3 was price competitive I would have bought it straight away. They just can't compete and if your not shifting consoles your not selling games, if your not selling games you ain't making money.

Wake up Sony.

Last I checked, the PS3 was about as far behind the 360 now as it was November 10th, 2006; if not a little closer. Not having the same total sales numbers as of 2009 ≠ PS3 losing ground to the 360.

 

[CamryFan]

I didn't really want a PS3. Brillant. Thank you very much for telling me what I wanted. Note the words are the avatar boys, I'm from Australia. It's about twice the price.

DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I WANT AND DO NOT WANT!

Plus Sony are hardly supporting the PS2. It's cheap enough to stamp out and they don't develop games for it anymore.

 

[Joey D]

As has been said, not that much so. I almost bought a PS3 solely to use it as a new computer before I chickened out and bought my laptop.

Really? You can't edit photos, use anything from the Office or Open Office suite, load iTunes/Zune Tunes, etc. with a PS3. Even if you ignore all of the retail programmes there are enough free programmes for the PC to make it far more useful. If you only want to play games I can see where a console is better, but for anything else, not so much. And if you sole purpose is just to go on the internet, you might as well just buy a $250 netbook.

Microsoft never made any money on the original XBox, and that was just a bunch of PC components binned from Newegg in a horizontal case.

I never said MS didn't have terrible business practices, they are probably worse then Sony about the whole thing.

 

[FoolKiller]

FK, I totally see where you were going with the BMW & Toyota comparison. In that light where you're comparing a 1 Series to a Yaris, yes it's like chalk & cheese. The BMW is more of a niche product. But the Playstation is not a niche product, it has always been a mass produced, marketed, and distributed gaming console.

OK, fine. Two comparable products: I have a VW Rabbit/Golf. My wife has a Yaris. In the US those are the entry level vehicles for their manufacturers. My VW cost about $3,000 more. If VW would price the Rabbit/Golf/whatever they call it this year similar to the Yaris they could kick Toyota's sales figures in the butt. Problem is that my car has stability management, traction control, McPherson Struts, more airbags than I care to count, 150 hp, 170 ft/lb of torque, and my temperature gauge does more than just give me a light to say if the engine is cold or hot. The Yaris has...better mileage. I paid the extra $3,000 because that value was in the car. Similarly, I paid more for a PS3 because I felt that value was built in.

With the PC comparo, you don't even need to go all out to get great PC performance. A decent starter gaming tower will cost $300-400 to build, case & PSU included. That's running a 9500GT which is the most expensive part of the lot, and that can be overclocked to 9800 specs no sweat which allows you to play nearly anything on the market with a decent fps rate.

Compare that to the used $679/new $688 for the PS3 as I mentioned before and you start to understand why a lot of Aussie gamers stick with PC for a lot of their gaming needs. It's cheaper for PC parts here.

Interesting. You priced a PC, built by yourself, and only factoring in hardware, not software like Windows (add on a good chunk of change for that) and all the stuff you need to make that hardware actually do something. You also did not price the labor of putting that PC together. Sure, you can do it yourself, but that time has some value too, correct?

And your PC is probably lacking things like Blu-Ray. But the comment that started that was consoles are cheaper than a PC. Your quoted price is more expensive than a 360 (at least in the US).

I'll continue to wait anyway until the price drops.....and wait.....and wait.....*drop the price already sony*.

I really think that they are waiting for those 45nm chips, as people have been suggesting. Those would quite possibly allow a price drop without affecting Sony's profits.

I didn't really want a PS3. Brillant. Thank you very much for telling me what I wanted. Note the words are the avatar boys, I'm from Australia. It's about twice the price.

DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I WANT AND DO NOT WANT!

I think his point was that if you wanted a PS3 over a 360 you could have saved up longer and been patient enough to afford a PS3. It is pretty much what I did. As long as there is Gran Turismo I will own a PlayStation. When I saw the predicted price of the PS3 I did not buy a 360, and still haven't.

Plus Sony are hardly supporting the PS2. It's cheap enough to stamp out and they don't develop games for it anymore.

Are you sure about that?

Five games, two not even out yet, two that have come out within the last month, and one from March. Two are developed by Sony, and one was published in the EU region by Sony.

Really? You can't edit photos,

Technically, their Photo whatever software does allow some minor editing (red eye stuff, not photoshop quality) and uses facial recognition.

But you do have a legitimate point. Until Sony allows Linux to have full access to all the hardware it is limited in its PC functions to being similar to a mobile device at best. I actually think they would be smart to put Google Chrome OS on the PS4, whenever that comes out.

 

[Joey D]

Technically, their Photo whatever software does allow some minor editing (red eye stuff, not photoshop quality) and uses facial recognition.

True, but I'm saying something as simple as Paint or Gimp. Not to mention the 100's of other basic editing programmes out there now.

But you do have a legitimate point. Until Sony allows Linux to have full access to all the hardware it is limited in its PC functions to being similar to a mobile device at best. I actually think they would be smart to put Google Chrome OS on the PS4, whenever that comes out.

Sony would be really smart to get Google on board with them and allow their operating system on their system. It would be a one up to MS by both Sony and Google. I don't even see why it would have to wait till the PS4, it could easily be installed with a firmware update I would think. I would love that actually.

 

[FoolKiller]

True, but I'm saying something as simple as Paint or Gimp. Not to mention the 100's of other basic editing programmes out there now.

I have long been thinking that Sony has not used the PlayStation Store properly. Since I have had a PSP I have longed for universally useful apps (their travel guide stuff is neat, but that wasn't much) and things like ebooks. Sony really is just a few good designers away from people saying, "There's a PlayStation App for that."

Really, why can't the PS3 have a Paint-like photo editor? I will pay up to $5 for simple features like that and more for more complex stuff. Throw a demo out at first (edit your photo, but can't save) and people will buy it.

Sony would be really smart to get Google on board with them and allow their operating system on their system. It would be a one up to MS by both Sony and Google. I don't even see why it would have to wait till the PS4, it could easily be installed with a firmware update I would think. I would love that actually.

I think the issue right now would be that Chrome OS is not currently designed for the cell architecture. I have seen videos where people have managed to get Windows to run on the PS3 either via direct install or a Linux emulation and it takes what seems like an hour to boot up because it struggles to use the cell properly. There is some very complex back end stuff that needs to be adjusted.

I figure that by the time the PS4 comes around cell chips being used in other devices as well will give an opportunity for Google and Sony/Toshiba to show the world that they have an alternative to the Microsft/Intel combo that isn't Apple. Set it up with Chrome OS and have it come with a fully functional form of Google Docs, Picassa, etc. It is a new option but uses things that we are all familair with, as opposed to people who make a switch to Macs and feel a bit lost.

 

[LaBounti]

I think his point was that if you wanted a PS3 over a 360 you could have saved up longer and been patient enough to afford a PS3. It is pretty much what I did. As long as there is Gran Turismo I will own a PlayStation. When I saw the predicted price of the PS3 I did not buy a 360, and still haven't.

That was exactly my point. I also thought it was clear enough when I said it was his choice to settle.

About the pc thing. DX11 is on the rise. I quit pc gaming long ago but i still play free mmorpgs and diablo2

 

[icelt]

Granted it isn't technically a price drop, but Best Buy sure has put together a dang good bundle/deal. And pay no mind to the "not available for store pick up" claim as a buddy of mine bought one in Dallas this past Wednesday (YMMV of course).

80GB PS3 with MGS4 & KZ 2 - $399

 

[jergto]

Well, since you don't know me I'll inform you that I'm actually older than you and had my son at an age older than you currently are, so your argument there is null-in-void. Personally, if I was in a different mood I would've been more offended with the "it's your own fault" bit for actually having a child in the first place. We don't decide when we have kids, and it's not like I set a timetable to become a parent either.


Which is why I spent THOUSANDS of dollars on relocating and paying for a modified car, to make my family happy. Why drive GT5P when you can do it for real. I went out on a limb for the car I always wanted to own to keep the family satisfied. It seems that my priorities are better set out in that aspect, because I'd rather be broke getting something nice for the missus or the family, hence all the money on my car. Car > PS3. I can't drive my family around on a PS3 or on GT5P.


Without breaking the AUP, I can't say too much to retort to this absolutely brain dead section of comment you've made, except that slapping you would be too light a response from myself. It may be $399 in the US, but not here where our gaming environment is totally screwed up as mentioned before. But you should work for our government, they pay well to public servants but screw everyone else over.

1 answer for your whole bitch session, sony isnt responsible for different market prices throughout the world. you have a son older then me? why would you even mention having a son if he is 24? can he not support himself?

i could have had a kid when i was 14. you dont decide when to have kids? 💡

i dont need to spend thousands of dollars to make my car fast, it already is.

 

[LaBounti]

Just for laughs i have two kids 5 and one. And I choose a CTS-V over a cheaper RX-8 last year. I no longer have a CTSC-V. last year premium scared me out of the car. Now its just my Mazda 3 and Kawi Z1000. I'm 30 by the way. Instead of a $4000 turbo kit for my Mazda i got a bike instead and never looked back.

mafia_boy did you ever think that maybe its just not the right time for a PS3. Not that other things are important but its just not the time to get one price drop or not.

 

[jergto]

Just for laughs i have two kids 5 and one. And I choose a CTS-V over a cheaper RX-8 last year. I no longer have a CTSC-V. last year premium scared me out of the car. Now its just my Mazda 3 and Kawi Z1000. I'm 30 by the way. Instead of a $4000 turbo kit for my Mazda i got a bike instead and never looked back.

mafia_boy did you ever think that maybe its just not the right time for a PS3. Not that other things are important but its just not the time to get one price drop or not.

that is a very good idea and is my current plan once im out of my 4 year obligation. keep the gto for another year and sell it for a prius and buy either a crotch rocket or street cruiser (HD, honda or yamaha). later down the line saving up for an 08+ viper coupe

 

[Boffin]

Which is why I spent THOUSANDS of dollars on relocating and paying for a modified car, to make my family happy. Why drive GT5P when you can do it for real. I went out on a limb for the car I always wanted to own to keep the family satisfied. It seems that my priorities are better set out in that aspect, because I'd rather be broke getting something nice for the missus or the family, hence all the money on my car. Car > PS3. I can't drive my family around on a PS3 or on GT5P.

Woah....your family encourage you to keep a modified car?! Now that's happiness right there

I hope one day when (if) I have a wife and kids, they'd embrace my enthusiasm for cars. My dad tried it with me, giving me is issues of CAR magazine (hence me gravitating more towards european supercars) when he'd finished reading them when I was 2 - but it got out of his hands and now I like cars too much for his liking.

Anyways - these whole shenanigans of what people have to make a year to buy nice cars, support a family and buy a PS3 are a bit inaccurate. I just got hold of a figure that my dad had to pay for tax this year and it was.....er.... pretty damn big. I have calculated that he in fact makes an absolute heap but none of us sees any of it. I'm in school, my bro's in uni, mum stays at home taking care of all of us and we have one car which is a '95 Volvo 850 SE estate which has 260000kms on the clock and is not in the best shape.

Can we afford to go on holidays? Rarely. Can we afford a new car? Not really. Is he going to buy me a car for my 18th? No (I get the Volvo - yyeeeahhh boi!). How long did I have to save up for a PS3? More than a year.
My point is - Families are :censored:ing expensive! Where the hell all our money goes is anyone's guess - but it sure as hell doesn't go towards extravagent luxuries. It also depends where you live. Living in a more popular suburb jacks up the tax, ups the food prices, ups general living cost.

If anyone buys a PS3 before putting a roof over the family and food on the table, they should be shot.

 

[danjama]

When you have a family/bills/house to pay off THEN come talk to me because I'd rather use my money for more IMPORTANT matters than a PS3. Just because you can splurge straight away and get it with mum/dad's credit card. It sounds to me danjama that you're a 'richie rich' type of person who gets spoilt a fair bit and is being a snob because someone else can't get it as easily as you and that just stinks of being an elistist pig to anyone that isn't on your level.

Excuse me but who the hell are you and what do you know about my life??

Let me tell you a bit about myself arsehole.

I am 21 years old. My dad left when i was 1. My mum died when i was 15 of a brain hemmorhage. I have been looking after myself since because my older sister was too selfish and hooked on drink/drugs to look after me. I struggled through my exams at school because i had to take them 5 months after my mum went, and against the odds, i am now training as a mechanic, and working part time in a record shop to pay the bills. I have worked hard for every penny i earned, against the odds. I've been homeless 3 times, i've moved home over 15 times in 5 years and i don't think you had any right to make your comment above and it pisses me off so much what you said. Do you know how many times i wished i was one of those "richie rich" kids when i was younger?? I felt i was one of the unluckiest kids in the world, with all the **** dumped in my lap! Even when she wasalive, we were not rich, she was a single mum with mouths to feed, and she struggled to buy me playstations and bikes and whatever else is nothing to other kids. So before you start judging people by one post, how about thinking or asking before you type. Judgemental prick. it isn't my fault people are facing redundancies and struggling to feed their families. My responsibility is putting food in my mouth, and i struggle with that enough, so i'm sorry but i kind of feel like i deserve my PS3.

 

[Joey D]

How about we all stop throwing attacks at on another and talk about, oh I don't know, Sony cutting or not cutting the PS3's price?

I have long been thinking that Sony has not used the PlayStation Store properly. Since I have had a PSP I have longed for universally useful apps (their travel guide stuff is neat, but that wasn't much) and things like ebooks. Sony really is just a few good designers away from people saying, "There's a PlayStation App for that."

The problem is outside a gaming device I can't see much use for the PSP, it's big and bulky compared to a mobile phone. With the iPhone and now the Pre offering all sorts of apps I think it's going to be a tough sell to have people carry a gaming device around with them as well. Now if Sony made a phone that you could load PSP games onto, they might be on to something.

As for Chrome, I see your point, unfortunately I can't say any more because my knowledge on the subject is too limited.

 

[danjama]

*claps* 👍

i'm glad you agree with him, two really open minded people here everyone

 

[Boffin]

sorry dude, I didn't know what situation you were in, but maybe it would be a better idea if you explained all that before going on the offensive.

 

[danjama]

Well it's like LaBounti said, all people are different.

We will spend money on what makes us happy, so i did, in fact i saved for 3 months and got myself it for christmas year before last . He just decided i was a rich little boy focusing on 5 words out of my post and decided he could try to talk down to me. I hate people like that. Where in my post did i say i splurged on it strait away with mummy and daddys cards like it was nothing? I dont know how he came up with this whole background for me from a few words.

Look at the rest of my first post in this thread, the PS3 is good value for money, that's my opinion. I didnt know i had to give a mini life story not to be judged.

 

[danjama]

i agree with all your post except the 'if you can't afford it oh well'. that's a tad harsh, not everyone is as fortunate as those of us
who own this fine console

i'm hanging on to my job by the skin of my teeth at the moment. they've already asked us for volunteer redundancies before they
force them on us

I am sorry to hear that man, i really am, alot of my friends have been redundant for a while now, but their very lucky to be young, single, and living with parents. Without that cushion they'd be pretty screwed by now. I hope things go in your favour. Even if they don't, one way to look at things that makes me feel better is "a setback is the start of a comeback" or something along those lines. In fact, peoples lives more often than not become invariably better through forced change in circumstances.

 

[FoolKiller]

How about we all stop throwing attacks at on another and talk about, oh I don't know, Sony cutting or not cutting the PS3's price?

👍

The problem is outside a gaming device I can't see much use for the PSP, it's big and bulky compared to a mobile phone. With the iPhone and now the Pre offering all sorts of apps I think it's going to be a tough sell to have people carry a gaming device around with them as well. Now if Sony made a phone that you could load PSP games onto, they might be on to something.

Size-wise it would work well for ebooks as it is similar to the original Kindle, but I believe they recognize the form factor issue, which is why the Go is coming out. They also dropped the price of the dev kit to get app designers interested.

They do have some small app-type stuff in other regions with the GPS stuff and a few other things that I have seen in the EU and JP stores that I would have gladly purchased. My thought isn't to compete with smart phones, but rather create more functionality for PSP owners that bought it for games and possibly prevent them from needing to buy a $100+ phone.

As for Chrome, I see your point, unfortunately I can't say any more because my knowledge on the subject is too limited.

I didn't get it either until I was looking into what functionality I could pull off with Linux. Unless it is designed to use the architecture properly it struggles.

 

[Vincent]

Skype on PSP. Sony's related page. Though it looks like they haven't updated the first page since they first made it available...

All you need is a headset and a Wi-Fi connection, but unfortunately calls on the go would be limited to urban areas with Wi-Fi hotspots, and personal wireless internet setups at home.

As for Sony keeping the price up, I think that they would have already lowered the price if it were not for recent economic trends, and take a hit on the PS3 line while relying on their other product lines to stay in the black. As it stands now, my guess is that Sony is feeling pressure in every division and cannot afford to lower prices and go into the red, lest they risk lowering the value of their stocks, thereby risking the (additional?) loss of investors. I'm sure that Sony is not just keeping the price up because they feel like it, they are probably acting in their best interests.

 

[mafia_boy]

I'd left this thread alone while I was relocating but I kept an eye on it so I'll answer all the comments directed at me and other PS3 price cut issues.....

1 answer for your whole bitch session, sony isnt responsible for different market prices throughout the world. you have a son older then me? why would you even mention having a son if he is 24? can he not support himself?

Where in the hell did I mention that my kid was 24?!?! Don't reply to topics if you haven't read over them properly.

i dont need to spend thousands of dollars to make my car fast, it already is.

And you would've had to have SPENT thousands of dollars to purchase it in the first place, so your point is invalid.

mafia_boy did you ever think that maybe its just not the right time for a PS3. Not that other things are important but its just not the time to get one price drop or not.

It's never the right time for me. But we live and deal with it.

Woah....your family encourage you to keep a modified car?! Now that's happiness right there

Not encourage.....tolerate would be the better term. If I had $1 for the amount of times my wife said, "I'm 🤬 sick of that car!", I'd have paid for the car 3 times over.

If anyone buys a PS3 before putting a roof over the family and food on the table, they should be shot.

Ain't that the truth. 👍

Excuse me but who the hell are you and what do you know about my life??

I'm mafia_boy if you can't read a username. I don't know you and you don't know me but your original reply calling people like myself 'penny pinchers' reeks of someone who is trying to be elitest.

Let me tell you a bit about myself arsehole.

Okay, scrotum.

I am 21 years old. My dad left when i was 1. My mum died when i was 15 of a brain hemmorhage. I have been looking after myself since because my older sister was too selfish and hooked on drink/drugs to look after me. I struggled through my exams at school because i had to take them 5 months after my mum went, and against the odds, i am now training as a mechanic, and working part time in a record shop to pay the bills. I have worked hard for every penny i earned, against the odds. I've been homeless 3 times, i've moved home over 15 times in 5 years and i don't think you had any right to make your comment above and it pisses me off so much what you said.

Kind of like how you pissed me off calling me a penny pincher when you don't know me from a bar of soap?

Do you know how many times i wished i was one of those "richie rich" kids when i was younger?? I felt i was one of the unluckiest kids in the world, with all the **** dumped in my lap! Even when she wasalive, we were not rich, she was a single mum with mouths to feed, and she struggled to buy me playstations and bikes and whatever else is nothing to other kids. So before you start judging people by one post, how about thinking or asking before you type. Judgemental prick. it isn't my fault people are facing redundancies and struggling to feed their families. My responsibility is putting food in my mouth, and i struggle with that enough, so i'm sorry but i kind of feel like i deserve my PS3.

I didn't JUDGE you, I said it sounds like it. You have since clarified that you HAVE had a very hard life, much like my own and props to you for actually getting as far as you have with such a hard life. And I can also sympathise with you on it. I've struggled single-handedly since AGE 12....so 3yrs before you had to. I had people that left me in the lurch and stuff like that too because they were too selfish for their own good, but like you already know, it's not an obstacle to continuing with life. I even became a Foster Carer, helping people out with my own savings to make sure underprivileged kids were helped out because I know how hard it can be, especially when you don't have a support system like you and I have obviously had to deal with.

But if you are a parent, you will understand as most of the parents on here do that a little saving here and there on things like a PS3 = more spare change to spend on the tykes. 👍

sorry dude, I didn't know what situation you were in, but maybe it would be a better idea if you explained all that before going on the offensive.

i'm glad you agree with him, two really open minded people here everyone

He didn't agree with me, but he IS right....you shouldn't have gone on the offensive in the first place, otherwise we wouldn't be in this situation right now would we?

How about we all stop throwing attacks at on another and talk about, oh I don't know, Sony cutting or not cutting the PS3's price?

Now that I've dealt with the comments, LET'S DO IT!! 👍👍👍👍

FoolKiller, I saw what you meant by the PC comparison, but I was looking at something VERY basic. If I included blu-ray to the PC, add another $235 for a blu-ray burner. 👍 So still, less than $550. Add Windows Vista....another $100.

So that's $650 AUD, including everything......still cheaper than PS3 here unfortunately, and then I've got the added benefit of burning blu-ray's with the PC. So at that price, the PC will still get the nod over the PS3. And for me, I don't value my labour costs unless I'm getting paid for real by someone else or I'm paying someone else to do it. *shrugs* Besides, it's an educating hobby to me because it teaches me each time to build it quicker and quicker.

Casio - Give us a few weeks with the currency rates going up and we might end up back on the level playing field again. But when it was dropping to the 70c/US$ rate, each day was making it look more and more expensive for us.

 

[danjama]

I don't see that i went on the offensive, you were the one doing that. I replied to the comments made before mine.

I can't be bothered with this anymore.

 

[Peter]

You all really should stop being quarelling c*cks and let's continue the conversation.

Moving on, I really hate that they ruled out the price cut, I was waiting to buy a new
ps3, but it doesn't matter anymore, so i'll buy it this summer

 

[TB]

You all really should stop being quarelling c*cks and let's continue the conversation.

So instead of arguing we're just going to go to name calling? Bad move.

 

[Sureboss]

Depends what that name calling is, honey bun!

 

[bevo]

Sony really needs to find a way to get more ps3s in people's hands. A price cut is the only way to get it done. If Apple, and or EA end up coming out with consoles also, sony is really going to need more PS fans to compete with 2 other consoles. Sony has alreay lost millions of buyers to the 360 and it's much lower price, and better online support. If they can't get more people interested in sony again, then one of the new consoles will take them out whenever the new consoles are released.
Price cut is the only way to go, or this may be the last we see of playstation.

I almost forgot, if I want to stay in this thread I better call someone a name. PJ-FFL is a turd head.

 

[mafia_boy]

Name calling stops after the line.

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Now that's dealt with, let's get back into it.

bevo, I think Vincent has been the one most on the ball with his response, and I sort of have to agree. PS3's won't be cut because of the economic climate, but I find it a bit disappointing when there was all this talk for nearly a year about the PS3 price cut. The 45Nm chips which FoolKiller used in his quote before too would be a way to save more money in production costs, but will this have any detrimental effect to the performance of the PS3 and therefore would game performance suffer as a result??

These two things are what make me a bit sketchy about what to expect with the PS3. The way things are going, it's almost turning into a PS2.75.

 

[bevo]

All I'm saying is that they need to get more ps3's in gamers hands, and a price cut is the only way to do it. The xbox and wii are so much cheaper that the ps3 can hardly compete. If Apple and or EA come out with a console next time the ps3 needs a larger fan base to stay afloat. I know several PS2 guys who went with the 360 in the last year because of the price difference. It will be very unlikely for them to get a PS4 the next time consoles come out. The high price of the PS3 has almost killed it this time.

Only 2 people I know that have a ps3 use it for multimedia, and 1 of them is me. I love the things that the ps3 can do, and like it more then the 360 because of blue ray, SACD playback, the support of streaming video and audio from the computer. It's great that it can decode dolby true HD, and DTS master audio. These are all things I use it for almost daily. If I had to choose I would keep it over the 360, but someone who is only gaming on the machine would surely like the 360 better(other then ps3 fanboys). Xbox live and the ease of use are way ahead of the the PS3.

Sony really went overboard with the PS3 and gave most of it's buyers to many features for to high a price. I know that sounds stupid, but gamers don't need 60% of the things the ps3 can do. They only need it to play games, and have a really solid online experience. As of right now you can play games, but the online aspect is questionable at best.

Sony needs to drop the price, and up the PSN support. Xbox live is so far ahead right now, and HOME is not the answer. If you have real friends who game, then party chat alone is enough of a reason to get the 360. I didn't think party chat was a big deal until recently when me and my friends bought NCAA football 10 for the ps3 instead of 360. Last year on the 360 it was alot more enjoyable and much easier to get everyone's games organized simply because of party chat.

I don't want to turn this into another PS3 vs 360 thread, but sony really needs to improve the PSN if they are going to charge the amount they do for a ps3.