Speed isn´t everything.

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What do you think?

  • Yes it is. Racing games are all about speeding.

    Votes: 27 9.0%

  • Its a personal taste.

    Votes: 76 25.3%

  • No, it isn´t. The fun involved in racing goes way further.

    Votes: 197 65.7%
  • Total voters
    300
My favorite car is my pimped out Dihatsu Copen or my epic pimped out Fiat 500. I just dislike the X1. Its like driving a car on a rail with 2 Veyron engines under the hood.
 
I have enough problems with the FGT let alone driving the X2010. I have yet to do the FGT series as a result. I tend to do a lot of runs of the Extreme Euro Rome race for money (18.5 mil currently) as it is more fun than grind and there are enough Euro cars in the game that are fast enough to win that race comfortably. I use it more of a test track for cars I buy (i.e ones I can within my "comfort zone"). Just spent 2 million on the Citroen GT Concept (which is decently fast, but manageable) and recouping the cash on that race.

I am, by the way Lv 32 (A) and Lv 23 (B). As the Seasonals are now derestrictioned, they now fall in the fun category (which is what a video game should be, in my opinion) so I enjoyed doing them (previously I had ignored the second set as too much inclined to be hard work). They did help get me to Lv 32.
 
What I'd love most is if they'd just put Formula Vee's in the game. Imagine an online lobby on the Nurburgring limited to FV's...that would be pure fun!
 
Personally I dont have the skill to drive race cars without driving aids so i really dont enjoy them at all and only drive them when necessary. I stick to driving road going cars as much as possible.

But like most things in life that is a personal taste.
 
Some lower powered open wheelers would be fun to drive. Fortunately there is fun to be had getting some speed out of the more mundane cars in GT5.

I modded a Mustang GT for the Seasonal. I didn't go over the top and max it out. Put Racing Hards on and the three cheap upgrades (at least?). I got it up to 399 HP (with oil change but no usage increase yet) and really enjoyed driving it (though a close ratio transmission might have had a beneficial effect on performance). It was fast enough for me to have some fun driving it. Having had some fun with it, I fitted an unpainted Carbon Hood, Aero parts, some black with yellow highlight wheels (which were a good match to the colour I used for the body).

I remember in my hybridding days with GT3 putting the Spoon Civic engine (suitably high revving) into an F1 car which was a great car to drive and had a resonable turn of speed as well!.
 
Personally, I LOVE driving the Elise 111R (non-RM) with the right setup. It's not overtly fast by any means but it rides rails and just enjoyable to drive. Also, I've been hearing the NSX-R is one of the best drives in the game so may want to pick one of those up? I sure will.
 
Ofcourse speed isn't everything in a driving game, it's the feel of the car, its character accurately digitally replicated to experience as truthfully as possible whilst sitting on the couch.
Speed is one of many factors, not the end all factor, at least not for me.
It's the variety, slow and extremely fast cars and everything in between which makes GT the rich and broad experience that it is.
Sure, some are only interested in the fastest ones, others are only interested in stock cars apparantly (no tuning) but for me it's about all (or most) cars depending on which fase/mood I'm in.
Whether I'm driving a Pug 908 approaching 400 km/h on the Mulsanne straight or going sideways at less than 40 km/h with my Kübelwagen on one of the Eiger dirttracks, both put a huge smile on my face (games are meant to be fun foremost, whatever that means for you).
Every car in the game requires a different mindset to fully appreciate, it seems a lot of people only posses the ability for one mindset, that's their loss, not mine.

About the X1, don't own it yet so I can't really judge it, tried the Vettel-challenge a while ago but that thing was faster than both my reflexes and my mind, when I focussed on one corner the car already was 2 corners ahead.....
Okay, only tried it a few minutes with my DS3 but put it off for later when I found that I was way off getting even Bronze (despite golding all licenses withing the first week),
Maybe I'll give it a go again soon but it isn't the car I'm most excited by (but still curious to try it out) although hopefully at least Bob will get one for me eventually, although I don't hate it as it's an interesting concept (as the ultimate racing car not limited by rules was discussed for years by petrolheads, at least now here's a digital version of how it could be).
But given the short time I did drove it in the Vettel-challenge it felt a bit like "Gran Turismo incorporating Ace Combat"...
 
I love fast cars and slow ones alike. I used to hate the X1 when I watched people drive it, but now that I have one I've come to enjoy it quite a bit for what it is. My favorite cars on the game include everything from the F2007 to the Golf RM, Dodge RAM to the Pescarolo C60 Hybride, etc.
 
I agree, I have an Audi R8 maxed out and it's a TON of fun and an absolute beast, however I also have a ton of fun in other cars as well, like my GTI and 135i.
 
Tilted poll..........in the end racing is at about speed PERIOD. You need it to beat the other guy.

You make your poll up and then through in a statement that makes people not vote for what they like, rather vote so they are not thought of as a non serious racer.

I call FAIL on the poll. Stop adding baited comments to them.

It should be as follows:

A: Going fast as possible is best

B: Slow and steady please

C: Who gives a crap, give me more GT5

Those are not baited, where as you pick one and the other are going to make you feel degrading for not picking it.

Basically just cause speed is you main passion doesnt mean one doesnt think racing is much more then just "Speed"

meh
 
OwensRacing
Tilted poll..........in the end racing is at about speed PERIOD. You need it to beat the other guy.
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While I agree with you that the poll is worded a bit strangely, racing is about being as fast as possible within the current rules. And in that regard, I agree with the OP. A race with cars limited to 300HP max and 2000lbs min can be just as thrilling and entertaining to both pariticipate in or watch as a race with 16 X2010s.

I find those lower levels of racing way more interesting to watch than, say, F1. In real life, at least.

Basically, what the OP is saying is that faster cars won't make the race better and I agree with that.
 
I voted it's a personal taste, but for me it's about getting the most I can out of a car, weather it's a 1.0 liter FF or a powerful FR, the actual speed the car goes is not as important.
The majority of cars I bought in GT5 are below 300 bhp. I bought the FGT but I haven't even driven it yet because I'm not really interested, I bought it for B- spec Bob to do races.

Some people like their car to be the fastest one and thats the most important thing, getting the fastest laps possible that no other car can beat.
 
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While I agree with you that the poll is worded a bit strangely, racing is about being as fast as possible within the current rules. And in that regard, I agree with the OP. A race with cars limited to 300HP max and 2000lbs min can be just as thrilling and entertaining to both pariticipate in or watch as a race with 16 X2010s.

I find those lower levels of racing way more interesting to watch than, say, F1. In real life, at least.

Basically, what the OP is saying is that faster cars won't make the race better and I agree with that.
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That I will agree with. I would rather have a race where I win by a fender then by a large distance.

There is true thrill of battling door to door that has no relevance to "speed" However in this situation you look for a faster line to beat the other car, you know carry more speed. ;)
 
I agree with the OP, Speed isn't everything.

For example, i dominated the GVS300 with a 132 HP 520kg Suzuki Cappuccino RM Fully Modded.

Although most the cars beat me on the straights, i made up for it with pin point cornering. Ended up winning by a minute.

Another advantage was Fuel Economy... I had to pit only ONCE, and that was for new tires.
 
OwensRacing
That I will agree with. I would rather have a race where I win by a fender then by a large distance.

There is true thrill of battling door to door that has no relevance to "speed" However in this situation you look for a faster line to beat the other car, you know carry more speed. ;)
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That thrill is always the same, whether you're going at 100mp/h or 200mp/h, but, as far as my experience with games goes, you're far more likely to run into people who're capable of doing it at 100mph :)
 
Mr Turismo
Ok, before someone starts the flame wars... this is just MY opinion. And i want to share it and know about yours either.

Everybody is just crazy about the X1 Prototype, a "car/rocket/comet" that doesn´t even exists ..so far. I´ve got one, from a friend... and i just have to ask: WHat is the point? I mean... the car handles absolutely spectacular, its fast as it can be... but, again i ask: What is the point?

Its a matter of personal taste, i agree, and generallyl it is... faster cars, crazy lap times, etc. I dont think people should give this car so much credit. Sure it is cool to drive on the first 10 minutes, but after that.. it gets normal, and you will find that your superb highpowered enzo or minolta or whatever car you used to love..isnt a beast anymore. And you will be ignoring the other great, low-end cars, that could give you tooons of fun ( remember lupo challenge at nurb? )..

I rarely see people talking about 100hp~300hp cars ...or tradind it. When i join a online lobby, all i see is SUPRAS, ENZOS, LAMBOS, PEUGEOTS and stuff... cant see anybody cruising nurb in a alfa romeo giulia sprint, or a bmw 2002 '72...or a more interesting car.

There is SEVERAL ways of having fun with low powered cars online... nobody seems to care though..

What your opinion about this?
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I think you've answered your own question (in the part I bolded). It's the "forbidden fruit" of the GT world, at least this month. It's the "must-have" car, so everybody wants it. Only it turns out to not be very much fun to drive.

I've got one as well, also from a friend, and the excitement wore off rather quickly. I did all the maintenance (rebuild/refurb/oil change/etc.), duped it, and have one that I leave alone, untouched, and another that I use for B-spec grinding. It's doing the Suzuka 172 right now. And it's got over 17,000 miles on it now, most of that just pure grinding.

When it comes to A-spec grinding, though, I vastly prefer the Minolta 88 or the Nissan R92CP - cars that can win, but are still fun to DRIVE.

But everybody's gotta have that X2010... Call it a phase. And once we're past it a bit, we go back and rediscover the FUN cars, and the joy of driving and racing. Some races I want to be overmatched, get the win out of the way, collect the trophy and the money (and the XP), but then I want to go back and just have a good race.
 
I love driving the X1. And in racing, speed is definitely everything, gotta do your best to get around those corners and turns the fastest so you can get that gold. =)
 
Speed is important to me. I am not happy with being a back marker and I want to be in the mix. Whatever it takes to get me in the pack is most important. I don't have a lot of patience and if in the first few laps if I am not up in the top 5 then it is time to make some changes to my car. I want to be competitive right from the beginning. In my opinion races are won in the straightaway not in the corners. The car with the most speed wins.
 
I'm only really interested in FR production cars with a preference to V8's, I really only want to race against other road legal cars and I'd like to find other people to race against in road legal car only races and in FR road legal only races and in FR V8 road legal races.

I also don't mind the Nascar for obvious reasons. I can still see myself racing online in race cars and the fastest cars but it would be a rare thing for me.

One thing I think online lobbies should have is the ability to both blacklist and whitelist any car but my biggest wish is that you could set a HP:weight ratio range instead of minimum requirements. I ideally I would prefer to be able to set things like minimum ci:weight ratios and ban things like turbos or have a different ci:weight restrictions for turbo and NA cars but that's getting too complicated for PD to implement so the ability to set a max and min hp:weight ratio would be enough.
 
Mr Turismo
Ok, before someone starts the flame wars... this is just MY opinion. And i want to share it and know about yours either.

Everybody is just crazy about the X1 Prototype, a "car/rocket/comet" that doesn´t even exists ..so far. I´ve got one, from a friend... and i just have to ask: WHat is the point? I mean... the car handles absolutely spectacular, its fast as it can be... but, again i ask: What is the point?

Its a matter of personal taste, i agree, and generallyl it is... faster cars, crazy lap times, etc. I dont think people should give this car so much credit. Sure it is cool to drive on the first 10 minutes, but after that.. it gets normal, and you will find that your superb highpowered enzo or minolta or whatever car you used to love..isnt a beast anymore. And you will be ignoring the other great, low-end cars, that could give you tooons of fun ( remember lupo challenge at nurb? )..

I rarely see people talking about 100hp~300hp cars ...or tradind it. When i join a online lobby, all i see is SUPRAS, ENZOS, LAMBOS, PEUGEOTS and stuff... cant see anybody cruising nurb in a alfa romeo giulia sprint, or a bmw 2002 '72...or a more interesting car.

There is SEVERAL ways of having fun with low powered cars online... nobody seems to care though..

What your opinion about this?
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Respect
 
I cannot agree more! When I race online I prefer races with around 500 PP limit and possibly with sports tires. Although I'm having alot of fun doing the Formula GT championship, I still think Gran Turismo is about real cars that you could technically drive every day in your real life.
 
It really is down to personal tastes, enjoy racing cars ranging from 50hp to 1000+hp.

It's all about variety for me.
 
With all of the hyper cars availible in the game, what do I find myself doing these days?

Driving a 110is hp Mazda Euros Roadster J-Limited '91 around the 'Ring in the rain on comfort tyres.
 
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With all of the hyper cars availible in the game, what do I find myself doing these days?

Driving a 110is hp Mazda Euros Roadster J-Limited '91 around the 'Ring in the rain on comfort tyres.
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XD in 30 minuts 1 lap XD
 
I'm trying to do a sub 10 minute lap and I'm getting close.

I'm sure 'Ring veterans can get it round in like 9:30.xx or lower, but I suck at the 'Ring. It's fun though.
 
Mostly, your rant is about the X2010. You should read the X2010 threads on here. You'll find "few" like it. If someone brings it out online, the room clears out. It's a fun novelty car and I'd love to race it a few times in a full room. Should be fun.

Your other point is that no-line like the low-end cars. It's also a novelty. I ran a room and set the HP down to 100 and brought out a suped up Kublewagen. Half the room left. The other half did enjoy it; but again it was a one time thing lets get back to real racing.

You really can't fault anyone; cause racing is generally about "how fast can you go!" The happy mediam for most is between 500-700 HP. That's just the way it is dude. You're just going to have to "find" people who share you personal preference; without hating on those who don't.
 
i spent most of my life cruising around the nurburgring in either a '05 STI Type RA or a 300SL. and ofcourse i despise racing tires in anything other than races. the number of people i see saying "my car drives super awesome, i max tuned it and put it on racing softs!"

you could do a 7 minute lap of the ring in a lawnmower with R:S on....
 

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