Speed or Luxury?

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I was having a debate with my friends about whether they like speed or luxury better. They all said luxury! I prefer speed over anything. I dont see why you would need luxury when your 16 years old? Is comfortable seating and alot of room good enough to replace it for speed? This is just my opinion, i'd like to here everyone else's.
 
I don't see why you would need speed at 16 years old either. But I also don't know why a 16 year old would need a Luxo.

If I had to choose something reasonable, I'd go with an in-between like say...an older maxima (affordable and fairly quick for it's size/weight)
 
I didnt have either at 16, I just had a 82 Fairmont with no back seat and a 4 cyl.
But, I do prefer luxury over speed
 
SPEED SPEED SPEED PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE.... haha...

Luxury cars dont give me the adreliane that I need. But sport cars could get in the way of dating, GFs are scared of last minute lane changes, cornering ETC.

So if u want to have a good feeling when driving a car, pick speed
If u have other things in mind, pick a car in between... Accord coupe, Mazda 6 or something
 
Why not both?

Mercedes Benz CL65 AMG, twin turbocharged V12, 600hp and 738lb-ft of torque, thats about a 12.7 second quarter mile.

Fast enough for ya?
 
Speed is fun, yes. But any idiot who is using all of their 11 sec car's potential on the street is just that, an idiot. I dont think that anything beyond 14 sec is worth any more than bragging rights unless you take it to the track (then you get due credit). I agree with LoudMusic, how about an LS430? Thats about as fast as you need to overtake the daily grind.
And speaking form experience, there is certain fun in being able to wring out evry last drop of performance of a average to slow car in the daily commute. I drove my friends 305 Camaro, and it overtook traffic/exceeded speed limits so efortlessly that there was not fun in driving it. Personally, I get an adrenaline rush from being able to touch performance limits in everyday driving.
 
Depends on my mood. But if I had enough money, Id have a corvette for when i wanted speed, and an LS430 for the luxury.
 
Originally posted by skip0110
any idiot who is using all of their 11 sec car's potential on the street is just that, an idiot.



Originally posted by skip0110
I get an adrenaline rush from being able to touch performance limits in everyday driving.


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Say what? So I'd be an idiot for using all of my 11 second car's power, but you wouldn't be an idiot for pushing your car to its limits in everyday driving? Isn't that a double standard, or some ****?
 
Originally posted by SpeedKrazy620
I was having a debate with my friends about whether they like speed or luxury better. They all said luxury! I prefer speed over anything. I dont see why you would need luxury when your 16 years old? Is comfortable seating and alot of room good enough to replace it for speed? This is just my opinion, i'd like to here everyone else's.


I've had 2 LT1 F-body's, an LS1 F-body, and an S2000. I currently drive a damn Lexus GS300, and I can, without a doubt, say speed is more for me. Luxury is nice, but I can't stand not having any power - it just sucks.

My next car is going to have so much power it's going to be scary.:trouble:
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
FC3S: According to your nick and your avatar you're a bit keen on speed. How's the project car coming?

Its in need of an engine rebuild, it still runs but i havent been driving it much. Ive been driving my 63 GMC (witch also is neither speed nor luxury)
 
In a perfect world, we'd have both, and neither would hurt each other. But we're not in a perfect world, so i'd choose speed.
 
Yeah, if you have to pick, I definitely pick speed and handling. Weight is the enemy.
 
Originally posted by Josh
:odd:


Say what? So I'd be an idiot for using all of my 11 second car's power, but you wouldn't be an idiot for pushing your car to its limits in everyday driving? Isn't that a double standard, or some ****?
Maybe I didn't clarify myself well enough. If the car is slow as **** (as mine is), then you cant put yourself in any danger by going close to the car's limit. But (for example) a ferrari's limits are so damn high, in order to explore them you need to be on a racetrack.
 
any car even slow ones are dangerous when pushed past there limits.

if you was taking a corner at 50mph, then understeered and smashed into a light pole i would call that a danger..... wouldnt you?
 
Originally posted by skip0110
Speed is fun, yes. But any idiot who is using all of their 11 sec car's potential on the street is just that, an idiot. I dont think that anything beyond 14 sec is worth any more than bragging rights unless you take it to the track (then you get due credit).

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Person gripe

Why does speed mean "in the quarter mile"? The S2000 goes like crazy, but can't hang in the 1/4. It's fastest in the twisties.

Maybe the poll should have been "Performance versus Luxury"
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I'll give up a certain amount of luxury to gain useable performance. In fact, I'm probably in the 5% percentile of car owners willing to make a big ride comfort for handling compromise. But I'm not in the 1% of people out there who willing to throw comfort out the window in an extreme quest for performance.

After a point, a great big Law of Diminishing Returns wall hits you in the face. An all out effort to gain performance by eschewing luxury sounds good from a conceptual standpoint, but doesn't really always work in real life.

Luxury is not just leather, power windows and heated seats. Its noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) suppression too. Its ride comfort. Its being able to drive a car for 5 hours and emerge still sane from the experience.

A lot of you may think you'll always trade luxury for performance. But I think most you would do an about face if you've ever had a ride in a car that's really been tuned to the extremes... like a Caterham 7 or SCCA IT race car for example.

Personally, for a daily driver, I have to draw the line somewhere between an S2000 and the Evolution 8.

The Evo is a car with awesome body control, good power and an object lesson in perfect steering. It will also knock your butt senseless if you drive on anything but perfect pavement. If there's any rubber at all between the suspension parts, it has the compression characteristics of solid granite. There's not much sound deadening (some, but not much). There's no leather goodies. Everywhere you look, its cheap shiny plastic and mouse fur covering the doors. Wonderful car, but not for me.

Take the S. Very good body control, decent power, and good steering. It is 98% just as exciting to drive as the Evo, but you can manage to have fun and not get beat up. I can easily tolorate a 2 hour trip in one, where as 20 minutes in the Evo, and I was looking to get out.

There's a line I think most people would draw. Some might have higher tolorances, but I doubt much higher.


///M-Spec
 
You are all incorrect!

The way to determine whether a car is any good, is by the shape of the left rear quarter window.

I know what everyone will be thinking, so I will save everyone the trouble of writing it, by writing it myself.

*DOH* Why didn't I think of that? Was I wasted?
 
I see where you're coming from, ultrabeat. :odd: But could you give us some physical examples? Maybe post a few pictures.
 
I like having a car that is comfortable to drive, and a/c is good. That's about all I want in the 'luxury' department, so the MR2 is fine with me.
 
Originally posted by retsmah
I like having a car that is comfortable to drive, and a/c is good. That's about all I want in the 'luxury' department, so the MR2 is fine with me.

Hmmm, interesting choice. I've always liked the MR2 MkII. But I wouldn't rate it as much of a performer. I guess it does already for its price range though.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
Hmmm, interesting choice. I've always liked the MR2 MkII. But I wouldn't rate it as much of a performer. I guess it does already for its price range though.

His is an MKI, though. ;)

I'd like to own a Maybach 62. It's not extremely fast when you compare it to the other cars in its category, but for a mansion, it's pretty quick!
 
I'm really torn on that issue...I guess it depends on my mood. I guess that's why I picked the G35 Coupe - it's the best mix of comfort, luxury, and performance I've seen.
 
The MR2 isn't all that fast in a straight line, but it's quite a lot of fun to drive. Plus I don't think you're going to do much better for $2500 :)

The Mk1 MR2s look like they would be uncomfortable from the outside, with how tiny they are, but it's probably the most comfortable car that I've driven yet, not really better than the Civic except that the shifter is in a better position. Almost everyone who rides in the car comments on how much room there is inside.
 
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