SpeedTV Petition against NASCAR.

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Read the site before you write your dissertation. Regard how it gives the opportunity for the signors to suggest what types of racing they want on in NASCAR's place.
 
Plus it isn't "Remove NASCAR Altogether". We just want less of it. Speed used to be my favorite channel because of all the variety of races on there, now it's all NASCAR, NASCAR, NASCAR. The only 2 good shows left IMO are Two Guys Garage and Test Drive. It's a shame Fox had to ruin Speed.
 
It makes more sense to petition Speed Channel to start a second channel dedicated to International racing. Separate the International racing events and shows to a new "International Speed Channel" and keep all the NASCAR, and other American racing events, on the current channel.

That's the only petition I'll sign.
 
So, if we can't stop nascrap from whoring up Speed can we get more Speed t.v. stations then?? Like espn ocho? 💡
 
I think we should just get the original Speedvision back. It had a near-perfect mix of everything, as I remember it.
Let SPEED have NASCAR, but gimme something else.
 
Slicks
I think we should just get the original Speedvision back. It had a near-perfect mix of everything, as I remember it.
Let SPEED have NASCAR, but gimme something else.
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That's not going to happen. So long Rupert Murdock still owns NASCAR and Speed Channel. So, it's best to request a new channel for the kind of racing that suits your tastes, which makes room for the older channel to air more NASCAR events, or whatever.

There are NASCAR fans out there that enjoy the current line up. Why should they not get what they expect and want? Why is it fair to cancel their shows for yours? It's not. That's why petitioning for a second Speed Channel makes more sense.
 
Solid Lifters
There are NASCAR fans out there that enjoy the current line up. Why should they not get what they expect and want? Why is it fair to cancel their shows for yours? It's not. That's why petitioning for a second Speed Channel makes more sense.
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Then why is it fair for them to cancel ours for theirs? :rolleyes:

You DO NOT have to remove NASCAR permanently. Just get rid of the "NASCAR Insiders", "NBS 24/7" and stuff like that. All the side shows about stuff off the track is really, really, really annoying. While they are playing a story about Billy Bob Joe's life as a kid before he won the NEXTEL Cup, we could be watching a huge ass 13 car pileup in an F1 race or watch somebody flip their Subaru 20 times in WRC.
 
MachOne
Then why is it fair for them to cancel ours for theirs? :rolleyes:
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Again, you failed to notice who owns both NASCAR and Speed Channel. Of course NASCAR is going to be aired more often on Speed Channel. It follows simple logic. I never said it was fair.


You DO NOT have to remove NASCAR permanently. Just get rid of the "NASCAR Insiders", "NBS 24/7" and stuff like that. All the side shows about stuff off the track is really, really, really annoying. While they are playing a story about Billy Bob Joe's life as a kid before he won the NEXTEL Cup, we could be watching a huge ass 13 car pileup in an F1 race or watch somebody flip their Subaru 20 times in WRC.
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They air F1 racing. In fact, they air it twice in one day, and a third time during the week. Plus, they air F1 Decade, and more than once a week.
 
I think its more realiztic that they cancel nascartv then make a whole new channle. who really thinks thats going to happen? The amount of money that would need to go into that would be more then they would lose by changing their programming to give us REAL racing fans what we REALLY want. REAL people turing RIGHT several times a lap.
 
Umm, numbnuts THE FREAKING FRANCE FAMILY owns NASCAR lock, stock, and barrel.

Currently, Brian France, son of Bill France Jr., is the owner of the National Association for Stock Car Racing.

As far as less NASCAR on Speed, I'm all for it, but I'm also not about to deny that the France family has done some major things for motorsport in this country.

A little known fact to the majority of road course elitists is that Bill France Sr. was a tremendous road course fan, who aside from starting the 24 Hours of Daytona (originally as the 3hour Daytona Continental) by inviting sports car clubs to the speedway, was also the key player in the formation of IMSA, and nailing down Winston and Camel sponsorship for IMSA's GT and GTP categories.

It was France's idea to come up with a rulebook that was more lenient regarding performance, but more stringent on safety and materials, when the GTP category was bandied about. What it led to was the pinnacle of prototype sportscar racing in America. The Frances are currently repeating history by once again not allowing the ACO to dictate American road racing's affairs (now with the GARRA Rolex series).

Hell, J.C. France, Brian France's kid, runs as a driver in GARRA for Brumos Racing.

Yes, NASCAR's mainstream success is getting sickening to motorsports fans. We're watching staple series like Trans Am, IMSA, Indy, and USAC become shadows of their former selves because of the television time and sponsorship dollars that NASCAR eats up.

But, they came by it honestly, and the France family has done more than their share for motorsports outside of the ovals (and for many non-feeder series on the ovals like the Featherlite - now Whelen Tour - modifieds up here in the Midwest/Northeast).
 
I saw comments and favorite shows but that doesn't seem like it would do as much good as a petition to get something on speed vision (instead of one to get something off).

Just my opinion of course, but when hundreds of people sign a petition to get rid of nascar, then leave various comments about what they like or would rather have, it doesn't actually give the people at speed much to work with (other than the names of people who don't like nascar and a mixed bag of suggested programming alternatives).

My view is that NASCAR is huge and getting something like nascar pulled from the programming schedule is near impossible (even with thousands of votes).

So, in my opinion it is best to make a petition for what you like, not a petition against what you don't.
 
Of course we cant get nascar off the tv. all we want is to get other types of racing on tv. We dont want all these little nascar support shows.

The comments do give them something to work with. They will see pretty much every one wants less nascar and more F1 rally and touring cars. I doubt many people say much more then that and not those.
 
2600 Signatures in about 2 days. Not too bad.

I honestly don't want NASCAR pulled entirely from SPEED, even though I hate it with a passion. It's quite simply unrealistic.
However, I think the goal is to decrease the amount of NASCAR-related shows on Speed (At my last count, it was hovering somewhere around 20).

For the record, here is part of the petition text,
"The undersigned feel compelled to communicate their voice of concern with the recent direction that programming on SpeedTV has undertaken. We feel that the preponderance of NASCAR and NASCAR related programming has soiled the integrity of a once great product. Similarly, the undersigned feel that the preponderance of reality show programming such as Unique Whips and Texas Hardtails offers little value or entertainment. These shows coupled with NASCAR related programming are often overplayed and / or have oversaturated the SpeedTV programming lineup. This petition is not necessary a request to reduce NASCAR related programming, the purpose rather is to encourage an increase of programming as prescribed below.

The undersigned wish to elicit SpeedTV and Fox Cable to resurrect programming now either lost completely, programming which is broadcast off-hours (11pm-5am), or programming which could be extended or increased. This programming includes:
• Formula One
• World Rally
• Grand Prix and Circuit Racing
• SCCA Racing
• Motorcycle Racing
• Dakar Rally"
 
Sorry, I need to clear something up i said earlier. Rubert Murdock owns the broadcasting rights to air NASCAR, not the organization itself. He shares it with NBC/Turner and will do so until the year 2014.

The new eight-year rights package, which will go into effect following the 2006 season. Currently, Fox and NBC/Turner pay a combined $2.4 billion for a six-year deal.

When everything’s in gear, Fox is expected to retain the bulk of the first half of the top-level Nextel Cup series races, including the sport’s centerpiece, the Daytona 500. However, it would lose access to the second-level Busch series, all of which is headed to ESPN/ESPN2. The new contract would take sister cable service FX, which televised a number of Nextel and Busch races in the first half of the year, out of the NASCAR garage.

Some of the support races around Daytona are expected to instead park at Fox owned Speed Channel, which will also pick up the Nextel All-Star Challenge. Speed will also gain a two-year extension to the rights to a trio of NASCAR related shows that it currently holds through 2012, putting that contract in sync with the rest of the new TV deals to 2014.

Since Rupert Murdock owns DirecTV, (for the most part), and Speed Channel, it would be rather easy for him to start a new channel dedicated to International racing events than eliminate NASCAR shows and race events on the current channel. Easier than ignoring his contracted rights with NASCAR and change the show schedule of The Speed Channel, that's for certain.

So, get used to the idea of watching mostly NASCAR on Speed Channel. It's going to be that way for a long time. Again, your efforts would be better spent convincing RM to start a new car racing channel than tell him you don't like NASCAR. Because, millions of fans matter more than a few thousand, especially if he had to decide one style of racing over another.Requesting a new channel, which opens up more time slots for the the regular Speed Channel to air more NASCAR events and shows, will be taken a lot more seriously than the childish remarks of how "... nascar blows my left nut...". Plus, you don't take anything away from anybody by starting a second channel. You only add and expand more shows and choices for a wider range of car racing fans.
 
Its a shame that you guys (North Americans) don't get MotorsTV that we get in the UK and the rest of Europe. MotorsTV is shown here on Sky Satellite - another Murdock owned company, so i guess it's a our version of SpeedTV. We do get a lot of NASCAR on it, but we also get full coverage of V8 Supercars, ALMS, BTCC, DTM, FIA GT, WTCC, Champcar and several other 'Formula' series, a lot of this coverage is even live. In between these top-end series we get all sorts of other motorsport coverage from 'Outlaw' dirt track racing to the 'Irish Fiat Punto Challenge'. At the moment since its generally off-season for most motorsport, i've been enjoying Andros Trophy ice racing and CORR off-road truck racing (great viewing! - i highly recommend it). I don't believe that MotorsTV gets any F1 coverage - ITV in the UK has that deal, and the BTCC footage isn't live (ITV again) but generally its got a great mix - something for everyone.

Perhaps, like Kent said, instead of petitioning for what you don't like, you should petition for better coverage of what you do want. Speed & Motors TV are both Murdock creations - i'm sure sharing footage would be straight forward enough.

http://www.motorstv.com/site/home.php?lg=2
 
Now that makes more sense then starting a whole new station. Simply share a lot of the programming with the other channle you mentioned. I had never heard of it before. If you guys are getting all that racing I just might more over there!

Seriously, watching speedtv here you'd think nascar is the only race series in exsistence. it sucks.
 
THE ED3
Now that makes more sense then starting a whole new station. Simply share a lot of the programming with the other channle you mentioned.
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What's to share, really? We already get most of those racing events on Speed Channel. Problem is, they don't air them live, or even on the same weekend. Right now, were getting the V8 Supercars, BTCC, DTM and LCO Le Mans Series, but at 3am ECT. And, they are races in one hour in length with commercials. So, it isn't that great.

We don't, however, get the SuperGT (JGTC) race events anymore. We used to get about five or six races in the early morning hours around spring time from the previous season. We didn't get a single race last year, and the year before was limited to just two races. Again, hour long shows with commercials.
 
Yeah we get some of those series, but like you said, they arent live, and in most cases, rather old. I dont want to watch a series that took a whole season in few weeks every night at 2-3am. Why must I watch so many nascar shows over and over? They play them so much I dont watch them and I still know whats going on just from checking whats on.
 
The North American audience is never going to get live Super GT, V8 Supercars, BTCC, DTM, LMES because of the time difference, not at a decent hour of the day anyway.

Try using this to air you grievances instead of an online petition:
http://www.speedtv.com/feedback/

It will be 99% more effective.
 
TheCracker
The North American audience is never going to get live Super GT, V8 Supercars, BTCC, DTM, LMES because of the time difference, not at a decent hour of the day anyway.

Try using this to air you grievances instead of an online petition:
http://www.speedtv.com/feedback/

It will be 99% more effective.
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Well, the events don't necessarily need to be LIVE, like F1 races. But, same day with a few hour delay would be awful nice.
 
Nascar sucks anyway. Whe the race is over you'll feel dizzy after looking at the cars going in cicrles. Yay....
 
Signing this petition is useless. NASCAR is way too big for any of us to do anything about it. That's right. You can go cry in your corner now. It's ok.
 
Well, the events don't necessarily need to be LIVE, like F1 races. But, same day with a few hour delay would be awful nice.
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Yeah, that would be great. I dont like week/month delays.
 
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I agree with slicks, and his comment about keeping the station how it was before Fox took it over.

I find it disgusting that the vintage lemans type racing is on at 3am!
 

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