SSR5 and SSR11 locations

[nitrous36]

Where are SSR5 and SSR11 located? I have always wondered this since the first Granturismo. I have always imagined they were probably located in Japan around or in Tokyo. All the locations of the other courses are given but the location of these two are never specified. Where are they?

 

[Vonie]

They're in fake cities. Presumably based loosely on Tokyo.

I only half made that up.

 

[Eric.]

They are both nonexistent courses, not based on a real freeway or anything. SSR5 and SSR11 share the same straight, but the turn at the end of the straight is completely different in the two.

 

[McLaren]

They're based on Japanese highway designs, but their not based on any real highways.

 

[Emohawk]

I think the ferris wheel is really in Tokyo, but someone said it's position relitive to the track would put some of the track out in the bay somewhere.

 

[Speedy Samurai]

I think the ferris wheel is really in Tokyo, but someone said it's position relitive to the track would put some of the track out in the bay somewhere.

Yes, because the ferris wheel is in Odaiba, which is just a tiny bit of land in tokyo bay, covered with amusement parks.

 

[ALPHA]

SSR5 and SSR11 share the same straight.

They are not the same but are similar as they are both fictitious freeways.

Some interesting posts.

#1

I returned from Japan yesterday and took the Limo Bus from Yokohama to Narita Airport. Route 11 provides a problem for me. The bridge in Route 11 is definitely the Yokohama Bay Bridge (do a google images search for 'yokohama bay bridge') and not the Rainbow Bridge to Odaiba. The problem is, the Shutoko (Shuto Expressway) #11 is the Rainbow Bridge to Odaiba. If you do a google images search on both of these bridges, you will see that the bridge in Route 11 is definitely not the Rainbow Bridge.

The ferris wheel could either be the one at Odaiba or the one at Minato Mirai in Yokohama. I rode the Limo Bus over the Yokohama Bay Bridge and the roads below the Shuto Expressway were definitely very similar to what you see in the Route 11 track.

#2

Regarding the special stage courses, I believe they are all real and all to scale. I just haven't been able to figure out exactly where everything is. Route 246 is easy because you can walk it. The other courses use the Shuto Expressway (the roads where there are the solid walls where you can't see anything and where the roads go through the curving tunnels are also the Shuto-ko) which pretty much negates any ability to walk the course.

The bridge, without question is NOT the Rainbow Bridge which goes out to Odaiba. I've been on that bridge many times and it is definitely not the bridge from GT3, however, the highway that runs from Hamamatsucho to Odaiba is called Number 11 which is very strange because I believe the real Route 11 track is out in Yokohama, about 20KM to the west. Last month I actually got a close-up view of the Yokohama Bay Bridge and it is DEFINITELY WITHOUT A DOUBT WHATSOEVER the bridge that is depicted in GT3. The ferris wheel has to be the one at the amusement park in Minato Mirai 21, which also happens to have a roller coaster. I'm not sure if the ferris wheel in Odaiba (near the Rainbow Bridge) has a roller coaster or not but the one in Yokohama Minato Mirai 21 definitely does.

If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that Route 11 is the area between Sakuragicho Station and the industrialized area out towards the entrance to the Yokohama Bay Bridge. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to get any concrete landmarks (such as are on Route 246) and much of Route 11 is not walkable and taxi fares are prohibitively expensive and would probably yield very little in terms of scouting the track.

I was staying at the top of the Landmark Tower during my last trip right there where it looks down right on all of this but the weather was very bad and we even had a typhoon blow through so the visibility was very bad. The only chance to see that side was when I was at the restaurant on the top floor as my room was on the opposite side of the tower.

I think on my next trick, I'll take a shot at scouting Route 11 a little more but transportation is a problem in that area since it's industrialized and there are no trains or public transportation convenient to the actual area where I believe the track is depicted.

#3

I found the following picture:

http://www.raglanroad.org/weblog/archives/DSC00009.JPG

which is from Minato Mirai in Yokohama. The strange building next to the Ferris wheel is the Intercontinental Hotel and the building on the far left is the Pan Pacific. If someone can take a look at the Ferris Wheel and roller coaster and confirm that this is the Ferris Wheel from GT3, I'd be really interested.

What this will or will not confirm is whether or not the track is in Yokohama as I suspect or actually in Tokyo near Odaiba and the Rainbow Bridge (which I know the bridge is not). I'm not sure about the Ferris Wheel, though.