Starting of a drift help please

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Im running a 350z and im not sure if its my tune or just my angles but coming into the turn i downshift and then i still cant get the back to slide without a tap of the ebrake and then i can get it to drift. just tryen to get some tips if possible
 
We do have a guide in the Nu-new members thread. Though I will suggest like possibly many others have. Watch Best Motoring's Drift Bible. If not, you can probably take a S2000 or Nissan Silvia S13 and as soon you see the apex, pull the ebrake and countersteer while touching the gas gently.
 
What im tryen to do is use less ebrake. Right now my drift is pretty much all ebrake at the start and i loose alot of speed. What im tryen to do its get my car to hold its drift without haven to use so much ebrake. If i downshift on a big turn i wanna kinda get it to powerslide into the drift without haven to use the ebrake to get it started know what i mean if there is away.
 
Have you tried the Feint technique ?(commonly refered as the Scandinavian flick)
 
Focus on upsetting the balance of the car going in. A middling tap of the brakes to shift forward and a sort of abrupt turn in to push the weight off to the side, putting all of the load on that single outside rear tire. It won't have enough traction to sort everything out and as such the car will rotate.

Basically figure out roughly what speed you want to be going through the corner and stay around that speed.

As you reach your entry point, step on the brakes enough that the nose of the car dips. You don't want to try and lock the brakes (which confuses a lot of people, when they hear the term braking drift they assume that's the method by which they'll be breaking traction), you're just braking to bring your cars weight over the front wheels.

Now, as the weight shifts forward like that, you need to time your turn in so that you're steering as the weight gives the front wheels a bit more grip and loosens up the rear. If you do it right you should be able to steer into the corner without any issues.

Now, at this point your weight is shifted forward thanks to the braking and outside thanks to the steering input. Your cars balance is all out of whack, and the next thing you're going to do is push it back into that rear left corner, onto that single comfort tire. This part is pretty easy, you just nail the accelerator. This will overcome the grip of that tire, and your steering inertia will rotate the car.

From here out it's all about steering technique and throttle balance, which you'll have to work out on your own through practice. One realization I came to that made everything make more sense was that your accelerator is basically shifting your grip forward and back during the drift. If you need more force in the rear to push you along or increase your angle, get on the throttle more. If you need more steering authority to decrease your angle, track through the corner better or come out of the drift, ease off the throttle. Don't make these all on/off adjustments, being smooth is key :)

Hope this helps a bit.
 
Im running a 350z and im not sure if its my tune or just my angles but coming into the turn i downshift and then i still cant get the back to slide without a tap of the ebrake and then i can get it to drift. just tryen to get some tips if possible

When you downshift, does it redline? If yes, then that's the problem. Better to use current gear and initiate drift using power-over technique if that's the case.

I initiate drift in three ways in GT5: 1) power over, 2) feint, and 3) ebrake. I use ebrake only when the car is going too fast into the turn. One indicator is if you see long red color on the driving line.

What im tryen to do is use less ebrake. Right now my drift is pretty much all ebrake at the start and i loose alot of speed. What im tryen to do its get my car to hold its drift without haven to use so much ebrake. If i downshift on a big turn i wanna kinda get it to powerslide into the drift without haven to use the ebrake to get it started know what i mean if there is away.

Hit the clutch at the same time when you use ebrake while in the middle of the drift, that way you don't lose your rev. If you have clutch capability, use clutch-kick technique instead of ebrake to hold your drift in that case.

I noticed that ebrake has more 'stopping' than 'wheel-locking' power in GT5. That's why I use it less often (for now). I still need to figure out how long to hold that ebrake to get desired results.
 
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yeah normaly i redline when i shift down im gonna try to stay in that gear and kinda cut out first then slam in and see if i can get it to drift without usen the ebrake
 
yeah normaly i redline when i shift down im gonna try to stay in that gear and kinda cut out first then slam in and see if i can get it to drift without usen the ebrake

Steer slightly into the corner when you 'slam-in' :) otherwise you'd go straight into the wall :)
 
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Have you tried the Feint technique ?(commonly refered as the Scandinavian flick)

ROFL!!!!! LMAO!!!!

Classic man... Thanks for the great laugh today NK... I'm still laughing about the "Scandinavian Flick"...
 
ROFL!!!!! LMAO!!!!

Classic man... Thanks for the great laugh today NK... I'm still laughing about the "Scandinavian Flick"...

Why? I have heard Scandinavian Flick back in Gt3 when I was still trying to learn. Otherwise, I have heard it in WRC videos before.
 
ROFL!!!!! LMAO!!!!

Classic man... Thanks for the great laugh today NK... I'm still laughing about the "Scandinavian Flick"...

Yeah, uh...the flick is definitely a legit term for a feinting initiation. Not sure what your problem is.

Sure it's not really drifting terminology per se, but it's not wrong.
 
Have you tried the Feint technique ?(commonly refered as the Scandinavian flick)

LOL. Not to act belligerent but that should be;

"Have you tried the (no need for a capital here unless, it's a word pertaining to the ownership of an item or the naming of an established or existing entity) 'feint' technique (No need for a space prior to the ending of a sentence) ? (but a space WAS required here), (commonly refered (Surely that is 'referred' with two 'r''s) (& where's the 'to'?)... as the Scandinavian flick) [FULL STOP]

Sorry, I can't abide grammatical inadequacies as I'd noticed that you'd previously 'scolded' others for such issues.

With all due respect!
 
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LOL. Not to act belligerent but that should be;

"Have you tried the (no need for a capital here unless, it's a word pertaining to the ownership of an item or the naming of an established or existing entity) 'feint' technique (No need for a space prior to the ending of a sentence) ? (but a space WAS required here), (commonly refered (Surely that is 'referred' with two 'r''s) (& where's the 'to'?)... as the Scandinavian flick) [FULL STOP]

Sorry, I can't abide grammatical inadequacies as I'd noticed that you'd previously 'scolded' others for such issues.

With all due respect!

Its fine and understandable. I need all the pointers that can be given out.
 
LOL. Not to act belligerent but that should be;

"Have you tried the (no need for a capital here unless, it's a word pertaining to the ownership of an item or the naming of an established or existing entity) 'feint' technique (No need for a space prior to the ending of a sentence) ? (but a space WAS required here), (commonly refered (Surely that is 'referred' with two 'r''s) (& where's the 'to'?)... as the Scandinavian flick) [FULL STOP]

Sorry, I can't abide grammatical inadequacies as I'd noticed that you'd previously 'scolded' others for such issues.

With all due respect!

LOL!!!! LMAO!!!!

Another Classic!!!
 
These guys are pretty much right here; it's essential to understand how to get the car losing balance and to obtain momentum in a swing, essentially it's called the Scandanavian flick, once you master the flick any car drifting is achievable.
To add more input I would say I don't focus on downshifting to lose traction however it's sometimes important to stay in the high revs in 2nd gear (usually) when drifting. And if you feel your swinging out too far (off circuit) use the ebrake to maintain a slide.
 
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