Steering wheel kick-back...

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Guys

I've been wanting to drift in GT4 but the damn force feedback from the steerng wheel keeps fighting me for control....how do you guys do it? I tried to fight the force feedback but I feel like I'm going to rip the wheel off one day...

I can do it with no problems in enthusia (force feedback off)...

anybody?
 
i do it no probs with full force. just get used to it, and manhandle the wheel. itll be ok.
if it breaks, call logitech, they will replace it if its under 2 years old
 
Try setting your force feedback to "Mild".

Also if your force feedback is fighting you, this could be a sign your going about drifting in the wrong way. Force feedback should actually be helping you to a certain extent. While drifting the feedback should actually help guide your steering. When your drift is ending, you have to fight the force feedback a bit to straighten out the wheel and avoid snapback.

Just so you know, if you leave the force feedback on strong, you CAN break the feedback if you steer to hard.... I have a broken DFP to prove it =(
 
Suzuki
i do it no probs with full force. just get used to it, and manhandle the wheel. itll be ok.
if it breaks, call logitech, they will replace it if its under 2 years old

oh yea, they are quite eager to replace your DFPs. Apparently DFP's have undergone some small "upgrades" since their deployment too. my new DFP is much sturdier then my old one.
 
LifeWater
Try setting your force feedback to "Mild".

Also if your force feedback is fighting you, this could be a sign your going about drifting in the wrong way. Force feedback should actually be helping you to a certain extent. While drifting the feedback should actually help guide your steering. When your drift is ending, you have to fight the force feedback a bit to straighten out the wheel and avoid snapback.

Just so you know, if you leave the force feedback on strong, you CAN break the feedback if you steer to hard.... I have a broken DFP to prove it =(
really? cool.. lol. how did it break? just wondering.
 
You always could unplug the power while drifting to stop it fighting you.
 
VIPERGTSR01
You always could unplug the power while drifting to stop it fighting you.
dont try to fix a broken bone with a bandaid.
unplugging the power is horrible, because you have no feel of the cars grip anymore. FF is the only thing we actually feel, unlike a real car where you get the whole package.
just learn to deal with it.
if it breaks, no biggie. call logitech and tell em it broke, and they will send you a new one.
 
Well, what was already said by Suzuki and others is more or less spot on, although to be dead honest I have yet to break the DFP I've been using, I've always had that sense it could if you steer too hard, but I've never actually been in that case.

Like Suzuki said, all you can do is to try and get used to it, it takes a while like anything. I've been using the DFP on no active steering, Simulation steering type, no power assist and strong force feedback strengh, it was a bit to all handle at once, but one can get use to it after a while. The milder settings may work, but I dunno, I never actually tried them out, so i can't really say myself.

My suggestion personally though is to try and just drive like you would 'grip' wise dealing with any oversteer you'll encouter on the entrance or exit of some corners, maybe not countersteer as much as you would think you would have to as one instance, or try a track where you would experience oversteer. Suzuka, Infineon and Tsukaba are some of the places I've found cars to have a tendency to oversteer, namley some FR, MR and even a 4WD or two. I've been trying mostly with stock cars, I suggest if you can trying out the BWM M3 or even the CSL model on N2's on any of these (and also Trail Mountain and even El Capitan), or even N1s and just well, keep at it.

It's just a suggestion though and for all I know I could be well off.

One can only get better if you just keep at it, it will come together but only if you just keep at it, although I'm sure that's already been said.

Dunno what else to say so I'll just leave it there.

Till later.
 
Thanks for all the inputs guys.

I know logitech is trying to 'imitate' real driving conditions but I'm not sure the 'auto-correct' feature in the steering wheel is desirable...

I've tried to slide my car in real life and the steering wheel does rotates in the countersteering direction by itself so depending on your talent...u'll know when to catch the wheel....u can also countersteer by yourself without letting the wheel go...and the effort is minimal....much less than if you were 'grip' driving so I guess I just wish logitech could've done a better job...

i'll unplug the power cord for the mean time....I have it mounted on the coffee table so I dun want to risk breaking anything at this point.
 
dori dori
Thanks for all the inputs guys.

I know logitech is trying to 'imitate' real driving conditions but I'm not sure the 'auto-correct' feature in the steering wheel is desirable...

I've tried to slide my car in real life and the steering wheel does rotates in the countersteering direction by itself so depending on your talent...u'll know when to catch the wheel....u can also countersteer by yourself without letting the wheel go...and the effort is minimal....much less than if you were 'grip' driving so I guess I just wish logitech could've done a better job...

i'll unplug the power cord for the mean time....I have it mounted on the coffee table so I dun want to risk breaking anything at this point.

Just as you have discovered that in real life the countersteering is done automatically, you have to think about the limitations that are present with the Logitech Steering wheel, its not going to have the same force that a real life car will provide when it knows to keep the front tires pointing in the direction that your car is sliding. It would be nice it that were possible, but probably for safety reasons, we can't have that with the Logitech wheel and the motor probably isn't strong enough for that. What will help with drifting with the DFP is to keep this in mind and know that you are resonsible to feel that force feedback and let wheel countersteer. If you continue to turn in, then the drift won't happen.

Hope thats clear.
If not, I have some video demonstrations displaying the wheel that would probably be more usefull than instructions.
 
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