STIMME! Das Beste Deutsche Auto! (ENDS AT 10:56 EST)

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STIMME! VOTE!

  • Benz Patent Motorwagen

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  • BMW 700

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  • BMW 1500

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  • Maybach 62

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  • Mercedes-Benz AMG Hammer

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  • Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI Bluetec

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  • Mercedes-Benz Sprinter

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  • Opel GT (not the German Saturn Sky)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Opel Speedster

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • smart ForTwo

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  • Wiesmann Roadster

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  • Total voters
    60
  • Poll closed .
I just got to give the "people's car" my vote.
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Like I said in the Korean car voting thread, the Beetle is by far the most beutiful car I have ever seen. I will procede to love it, and never let go of it.
BTW, if anybody says it's a Nazi car you need to leave.
 
that car, the Focke-Wulf, and the Me 262. The only good things to come out of that man's rule.

and what good things they are!
 
I went for my own car, of course, a VW Beetle. I was tempted to put a 911. But considering that the Beetle was the best selling car for, quite a long time, there is really no comparison.
 
I was going to vote for the VeeDub Beetle but I thought about it all day while driving and I've decided to vote for the VeeDub Golf/GTI. I feel it's impact is EXACTLY the same as the Datsun 240Z had for Japan--only for global fun/fast hatchbacks. It's quick, it looks great, it was cheap, and even by today's standards could probably wipe the floor with other small hot hatches in handling and probably acceleration. And I don't care what anyone says, including Jeremy Clarkson, yes they got larger and slower but that didn't mean they weren't great fun cars.

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Volkswagen Beetle, the car that saved Germany (literally). It preceeded everything on the list, half of which was derived from the Beetle anyway. There are faster cars (um, all of them), better cars (most of them), longer lasting ones (911), and those that hold very special places in history (Motorwagen, 300SL, 959, etc.), but none are more important than the Beetle.

The Benz Patent Motorwagen was the first official car, but it certainly didn't launch the motor industry. That was already an inevitability in one form or another. The rest simply would not be here were it not for the constant turnout & need for reliable transportation after WWII: the Beetle.
 
It changed the auto industry yes...but without the cars released afterwards the auto industry would be boring and bland with huge slow boats from America and tiny city cars from Japan. Again, there needs to be a multiple choice option for the first part of each of these polls. And the finalist poll be only 1 choice.
 
A few things:

- If we take a quick stroll back in time, a little more than a month ago, you would have found the Ford GT40 in the British car thread. Why you ask? Well, it was designed and built (origionally) by Britons, thus I deemed it a British car despite the fact it is just as American as well. However, the Ford GT will be an all-American model, so feel free to vote for that when the time comes.

- The Opel Speedster made it in given that it is a German, technically, despite the fact it shares a lot with it's British counterparts. Given that it runs a German designed/built engine (among other things), it all counts. But when whoever it was pointed out it probably won't get voted for, hes probably right.

- The Volkswagen Beetle DOES NOT include the 1999+ Volkswagen New Beetle, so don't worry about that. It would have been classified as a New Beetle if it was. On that note...

- I'm quite surprised the Beetle hasn't blown the competition out of the water, as call me crazy, it is probably the most important vehicle to ever come out of Deutschland beyond the origional, the Benz Patentwagen.

Yeah, its a Nazi design, but thats okay. I don't see people hating Mercedes-Benz and Auto-Union (Audi) because of Hitler's support of those two companies...

Just remember this about the Beetle:

- Over 21 Million units sold
- Built from 1945 to 2003
- Easy to rebuild/repair
- Fuel efficent, even by today's standards
- Cultural icon
 
Props again to the Beetle, inarguably, like I've said before, the most important car in the history of motorcars, besides the Model T. And the production run was longer than most people can remember. I wouldn't be surprised if someone bought the equipment off the Brazilians and started making "classics" again.

Of course, before even looking at the poll, I realized that everyone would vote for it, so I voted for the BMW 3-series (seeing as I nominated the 2002ti).

This car series is single-handedly responsible for the stuck-up attitude of superiority that European car enthusiasts have towards the rest of us auto-geeks. And why not? It proudly and arrogantly wears the rear-wheel drive mantra on its sleeve long after many other manufacturers have given it up, and is the benchmark against which all other sports sedans are still compared.

Even in the most basic, bottom-of-the-line 316i form, often lambasted as a poseur-mobile or rep-mobile, it gives people who would've otherwise never known such things a taste of car control and communication you can't get from other such rep-mobiles. Whenever someone tells you European cars handle better than all others, a mental picture of this car is in the back of their minds.

And best of all, it hedges up the bottom and middle of the motorsports ladder, from track-days to autocrosses to touring cars, the BMW 3-series (like the Miata, as I mentioned in the Best Japanese car thread) helps fan the flames of racing enthusiasm the world over.

That the VW Beetle has meant as much to motorsports in previous decades, and that the Porsche 911 fills the bulk of the "middle class" of racing machines (just above regular track-geeks and just below supercars) are undeniable. But the 3-series means more to racing now, in my opinion.

Shame the S-Class hasn't gotten far into the vote. A lot of my earliest motoring memories came in the back of an old Merc. They used to be the grandest, toughest and most impressive cars on the road... not just another luxury car, like they are today. :(
 
The Quattro is suffering. :(

Lots of people said they would vote for it but havent. :grumpy:

Come on guys.
 
Well, the overall impact of the Audi Quattro coupe on the market as a whole is questionable. Granted, yes Audi has proven it's point with the Quattro AWD system... But what else do they have left with the Quattro Coupe? The fact the Corrado outdid it at the time is a bit of a dissapointment to some folks, all of which also came at the same time as the Audi throttle/brake issues here in the US.

...I'm not calling it a bad car, but it isn't anywhere near some of the other cars on this list when it comes to importance or an overall legacy...

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On the 3-series: I must say, next to the Golf/GTI I cannot think of a better car to win this round. It quite frankly is the standard by which ALL cars are measured, and I mean ALL cars. Every editorial, review, preview etc of most new models often has atleast a mention of a 3-series in some way here in the US, and it just goes to show what kind of an effect this car has had on the world.

I will openly admit that there was a time in which I HATED the 3-series because it was so good. When we first started looking into a 328i a few years back, I was quite upset. How could we be skipping over the CTS 3.6 when we are part of a GM family?

...Then I drove the car, and everything changed...

I, quite frankly, can't think of many cars that were as enjoyable as that. It was like everything was balanced perfectly for both a comfortable ride while also be apt for a sporting drive as well. The controls were laid out just right, the shifting position in relationship to the seating position was just right... It was unlike anything I had been in.

Did we buy it?

Nope. Too expensive for what we wanted, and thats allright.

...I've often thought about picking up a used 325i just for the hell of it. Nothing too special. Green metalic paint, tan interior, and alloy wheels are all I want.

But then again, there is that GTI I've been looking for as well....
 
Hey kids, I realise it is a bump, but the final round is comming up soon. Get your votes ready, as you have just over eight hours to wrap things up. As it stands right now, the final five will consist of the following:

- Volkswagen Beetle
- Porsche 911
- BMW 3-Series (including 2002, etc.)
- VW Golf/GTI
- Mercedes-Benz S-Class

With the short time left, get those votes in. I don't want to hear "pish posh, why didn't the Quattro make it?" later on down the road... If you want it in, there has to be a vote for it.

...Oh, and get your thinking caps on for the Sweeden/Australia round. Yes, I've put both together as it will be a pretty limited engagement for both countries.
 
...I've often thought about picking up a used 325i just for the hell of it. Nothing too special. Green metalic paint, tan interior, and alloy wheels are all I want.

ZSP. You also want ZSP.


Gah... The 3er is making a surprisingly strong showing. C'mon now people... Don't go overboard... it's just a BMW. ;)


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ZSP. You also want ZSP.
Indubitably you want the ZSP and (natch) a manual trans. And with the E90 out in force, E46 resale values are skidding. I shoulda held out for 6 more months (not that I think I got a bad deal).
 
I was thinking of getting a E46 just before summertime next year, but its over 6 grand for insurance on a 320ci :crazy:

Will probably just go with a A3 instead as planned.
 
I voted for the Porsche Carrera GT, which is my personal favorite German car, however in the final thread I'll be voting for the Porsche 911 - so no worries, 911 guys - we'll win. ;)
 
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