Stock R34 under 13 in the 400m?

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I have heard that you can take a totally stock Nissan Skyline and get it to just barely turn out a 12 in the 400m. The closest I have seen is a 13.140. Has anyone gotten better than this without an oilchange?
 
if its stock... then it all depends on the driver... I guess you would have to turn off TCS and ASM go for it...
 
Originally posted by exhaust_note
if its stock... then it all depends on the driver... I guess you would have to turn off TCS and ASM go for it...


I did........ the best I got was a 13.140......without TCS or ASM or oilchange........ can anybody do better?
 
is it fully run in? if its broken in. that extra 15-25hp it gets might just be enough to push it over the edge w/ a good driver
 
Originally posted by IDAFC21
is it fully run in? if its broken in. that extra 15-25hp it gets might just be enough to push it over the edge w/ a good driver


LOL ohhhhhh yeah...... dammit...... that explains how its possible..... I dont think its possible in the first 20 runs though
 
yeah, i would think the car would have to be completly broken in. it'd need all the HP it could get. this actually intrigues me. i might have to try it out haha
 
if you do..... do a comparison....... the VspecII vs. the EVO VII RS
 
what, stock for stock?

also, which skyline did you hear could do it? was it the vspec II?
 
Yeah totally stock for stock........ I think thats what it was...... but maybe I'm assuming since its the most popular one.....
 
hmm. well i was coming here to post my times, and never realized you said no oil change in your posts, i bought a new r34 vspec II and an evo vii rs and gave em both oil changes before i ran em, whoops. oh well. im sure the hp they get from an oil change would roughly be the same as a run in engine w/out an oil change. either way, here are my results.

took some launch control, but after some tries, in the R34 i managed a 12.962, this was w/ 4.0 miles on the car, and the hp was 337. its tough, that car needs just the right launch to get it down in under 13

The Evo VII was a bit easier, that thing launchs like a mother and even tho it has lower hp than the skyline, the lighter weight definently helps it out. No special launch teqnique here, just put the pedal to the ground and go for it. After some tries in that one i managed a 12.959, this was w/ 2.5 miles on the car and 321hp

on both cars asm and tcs were off. df i put down as LOW as it would go. (the higher you put it the more drag you get. not good for top speed) and i started off in 1st gear on both cars. (they arent powerful enough in stock form to warrent starting in 2nd)

on the skyline my launch area was somewhere around the the 6500-7500 rpm range, couldnt quite find the sweet spot tho.

in the evo i found the best way was to just redline it from the start and shift at about 7500rpms

so those are my reslults. sorry i didnt see the thing about the no oil change, but like i said, id assume the hp on a fresh engine w/ an oil change would be about roughly the same as a broken in engine w/out an oil change
 
Ok Im about to do the ones with oil change and see what I can come up with as I pride my self in incredible launch control...Yeah I'm sure I'm not the best but I think I'm decent....... be back in a few with times.

OK on my third run with the VSpec II 12.969

and EVO VII GS is
First run 12.981
fifth run 12.971
7th run 12.968
 
Tried this with a new R34 and no oil change. Kept running the 400m, and then adding some mileage. The car peaked at 331 hp at about 185 miles. Best I could do at that power was 13.024 with minimum df, and 13.035 stock df (0.47). So close. :( ASM and TCS were 0. Ain't sayin it can't be done, but you'd need a sweet launch. For comparison I ran a new R34 with oil change and no miles (337 hp) and got 12.975. If you want to try no oil and need to break in the car, try the amateur 4wd at Superspeedway. 5 fairly quick laps with some tough competition from a Celica GT4, and also an R32. Lots of drafting and blocking to win. :)
 
http://gtsc.netfirms.com/3skyline.htm
There's over 30 of my Skylines on this page with their 1/4 mile times and top speed both tested.

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R34 Skyline GT-R V-Spec
339 hp | 4WD | 0:12.825 ET | 266.5 km/h
Nothing

Bay Side Blue Metallic

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R34 Skyline GT-R V-Spec
338 hp | 4WD | 0:12.829 ET | 267.9 km/h
Nothing

White

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The above two cars are my slowest R34's, but they are both completely stock and all settings are stock (downforce is at stock settings).

Both of those cars are in the 12.8's and i discovered that the best rpm to launch is from about 3500rpm to 5500rpm. But don't hold it in place, keep revving it inbetween that range so the wheels lose traction (but not too much) when taking off.

For those of you who are suspect those times are a bit dodgy, then take into consideration that, one; i hate using TCS and ASM (even on my 1000+hp cars) because (i think) they are unrealistic, and two; i spend quite a lot of time at the 1/4 mile strip...
 
Hey Mustang-man:

Nice times! Considering the times you're running at 338-9 hp, it seems pretty likely you could go under 13.0 at 331. This was the first 400m I've done much with without TCS. BTW, I much prefer your use of "unrealistic" to that other term you sometimes use. :lol:
 
the fastest i got my Evo. to run in the 400m, which has everything done to it it ran 10.201 can anyone beat that?
 
Apples and oranges...

I gave a stock R34 a shot, and all I can say is I'm not very good at 400m...best time was 12.952...
 
i can do that 12 in a stock skyline gtr with me and my power shifting.
 
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