Stock -vs- Tuned: It's been too long.

Should Tires be an Upgrade?

  • Yes, it's just another Upgrade.

    Votes: 93 33.5%

  • No, it can provide to much of an advantage.

    Votes: 120 43.2%

  • Totally Depends on the car at hand.

    Votes: 65 23.4%
  • Total voters
    278
I'm not sure if you use the UCD for these tests but if you do I'd recommend getting the zero mile prices to avoid price fluctuation from miles on individual cars.

I would love to see a used Camaro SS vs 2000 Cobra R Mustang!
 
iCyCo
How about this one, the poor man's Ferrari Honda NSX vs 599 or Enzo
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Now that I think about it, the 458 Italia is a better price, the NSX would be almost fully modded if you compared it to the 599, (total domination due to having so many mods on the NSX) I presonally think episode 1 will be 458 Italia vs Honda NSX? Everyone liking it?

There are many suggestions that will be used in future episodes no matter what:tup:
 
MOTORTRENDmitch
Now that I think about it, the 458 Italia is a better price, the NSX would be almost fully modded if you compared it to the 599, (total domination due to having so many mods on the NSX) I presonally think episode 1 will be 458 Italia vs Honda NSX? Everyone liking it?

There are many suggestions that will be used in future episodes no matter what:tup:
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Sounds interesting. Looking forward to seeing your results. :)👍
 
I couldn't do any testing tonight, I may be able to tomorrow, It will be good to go this weekend though probably, So you can except EP: 1 to be sunday.. ish
 
I don't mean to bump the thread, but...
Today I will be doing most of the testing, and I want to here what you guys want me to put into the NSX. Let me know what the best value tuning options there are 👍

Ferrari 458 Price: 283,000cr
Honda NSX Price: 119,570cr
Tuning Budget: 163,420cr

Tunes So far,

List
Oil Change 250cr
ECU Tune 1,000cr
Racing Air Filter 450cr
Stage 1 Engine Upgrade 2,500cr
Stage 2 Engine Upgrade 15,000cr
Stage 3 Engine Upgrade 30,000cr
Catalytic Converter: Sports 500cr
Twin Plate Clutch 2,500cr
Sports Intake Manifold 2,500cr
Racing Exhaust 10,000cr
Sports Exhaust Manifold 3,500cr
Chassis Reinforcement 20,000cr
Rear Wing 5,500cr

Upgrades So Far 83,200cr


I have also realized it is 100% acceptable to buy the weight reductions, this is a GT5 test, and it is offered in the Tuning Shop, so it is fair game, we will still be sticking to stock tires though 👍 The thing is though... there will be know way for us to spend the entire budget. 👎 there is simply not enough available upgrades :P
 
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MOTORTRENDmitch
I don't mean to bump the thread, but...
Today I will be doing most of the testing, and I want to here what you guys want me to put into the NSX. Let me know what the best value tuning options there are 👍

Ferrari 458 Price: 283,000cr
Honda NSX Price: 119,570cr
Tuning Budget: 163,420cr

Tunes So far,

List
Oil Change 250cr
ECU Tune 1,000cr
Racing Air Filter 450cr
Stage 1 Engine Upgrade 2,500cr
Catalytic Converter: Sports 500cr
Twin Plate Clutch 2,500cr
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I'm not an expert in tunning, and as you might know I usually don't tune my cars. I would go for weight reduction, more power (which it's what the car really needs) and a good set of tires. I've tuned up my NSX Type R close to 360hp with only the above mentioned mods and it beats cars with 500HP+

This is a machine made for handling(assuming that you'll use the NSX Type-R), so I would do a lot of testing if you decide to modify things like the suspension, so it doesn't loose its neutral feel.
 
HuskyGT
I'm not an expert in tunning, and as you might know I usually don't tune my cars. I would go for weight reduction, more power (which it's what the car really needs) and a good set of tires. I've tuned up my NSX Type R close to 360hp with only the above mentioned mods and it beats cars with 500HP+

This is a machine made for handling(assuming that you'll use the NSX Type-R), so I would do a lot of testing if you decide to modify things like the suspension, so it doesn't loose its neutral feel.
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Yeah, I agree with you, the thing is, the Vote we did dictates we can't use tires for it is to much of an advantage, We have the NSX tuned quite a bit, we are soon adding the Suspension to it, hopefully that will work, because Driving it tuned like we are, is like running a V12 LMR on Sport Softs :dunce:
 
Stock -vs- Tuned Episode 1​
This week we have decided to Compare the Honda NSX to that of the Ferrari 458. I have went over this episode, which in my opinion wasn't good at all, and edited a few grey areas, badly worded areas, and non-descriptive areas, I didn't make too many changes how ever, but I did clean it up a little bit 👍. Now by buying the NSX you are saving 163,420 Credits. With that said. It's time for tests.

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First things first, we will test the NSX Stock. We begin by taking it around Top Gear Test Track, it was able to lap the circuit in 1:17.585. Not to bad for a Stock entry level Super car, one thing we found is that the front end grip in the NSX is amazing, it was able to maintain more speed then the Ferrari through most turns. The real weakness that the NSX encounter however, is the straight line speed that bring its lap times down. We thought we would blow this picture up so you could see the white spec 400m in the back ground..

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After we tested the NSX it was the Ferrari's turn :sly: First thing we noticed was a MUCH more exciting Exhaust note and a large increase in straight line speed ;) .. Some more interesting, and less obvious finds we made, included these facts. The NSX had a more direct steering input. The Italia almost felt understeery when driven right after the NSX. It also couldn't carry quite as much speed through low speed turns. We managed to get a 1:14.443 around TGTT. That leaves a 3.1 second gap.. Can we get 3 seconds out of our 161,000cr Budget? .. More then likely.

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We put as much money as we could into the car.. which ended up being every upgrade except the tires (which by the rules of the poll, we couldn't buy tires), and the Suspension/Tranny. We were going to give it the Suspension if the car's balance was to horribly off, which it was a fair bit, but we deemed in unnecessary. In easy to understand terms, the NSX became a Violent beast.

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With the car now being tuned, we set off on the TGTT and in the First few laps we were honestly un certain that the NSX would be even close to the Ferrari's time, mostly because of how loose it was. We changed our line, and were more careful out of the turns, we managed to make a lot of time up, and the light foot payed off. We managed a 1:12.263. A good 2.2 seconds over the Ferrari!!

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We couldn't tell if the NSX was making most of its time through handling or straight line speed, so we Lined them up on SSRX, and we're astonished at how close the 2 cars ended up being. From a Dig, the NSX actually had a commanding lead over the 458. The Honda kept that lead going, up to about 165MPH, which is when the NSX started to lose the battle against wind resistance, and the 458 Italia flew by. The Ferrari's top end was much better, most likely due to better aerodynamics and 120 extra ponies. Top Speed of the Honda: 209 Miles Per Hour, and get this, Stock Transmission!! Sorry Polyphony Digital, but I can assure you, the NSX wouldn't have that much gearing come stock, and it's not like that's all the gearing we had. It just reached terminal velocity :sly: In the Draft we were able to break 220:dunce:. Fail?

SSRX Numbers:
NSX 0-60: 3.6 seconds. 0-100: 7.1 Seconds 1/4 mile: 11.5 Seconds. 0-1 Mile: 28.472
Italia 0-60: 3.3 seconds. 0-100 7.0 Seconds 1/4 mile: 11.5 Seconds. 0-1 Mile: 28.156

So really, when these two cars are lined up together, and you both launch well, the Ferrari should get a small jump off the line, the NSX should pull ahead beyond the Quarter Mile mark, and yet another pass will be made at about the 3/4 mile mark which seals the deal for the 458.

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So in the end, we find out, it is a smarter decision to buy the Honda NSX, and save the 80 Thousand Credits. After all, Saving that kind of money, you could buy 4 of these, :sly:

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We hope you enjoyed this beginning episode of Stock -vs- Tuned. and would love to hear, critisms, future suggestions, and other content you would like to see in up coming episodes. We will be adding another aspect to our future tests, a Nurburgring lap! Mike_GT3 as well as Mac K will be lapping our cars around the 'Ring. Together they both hold COUNTLESS GTPlanet Nurburgring records..

S-v-T Team.​

MOTORTRENDmitch
Jesse208
Crowhop
SebaEspinosa93
C-NICE55
Drift-Monkey55

Big thanks to all of you whether you helped the Testing, Lap times, Photo shoot, or all of the above 👍 ​
 
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The high gearing of the NSX might have something to do with the modifications you made. The engine chip, engine tuning stages 1 2 & 3 and exhaust upgrades raise the rev limiter by about a thousand RPM. Oh, and how did the Ferrari win? The NSX was way faster on the TGTT.
 
Good review Motortrend :)👍.

But did you guys fully upgrade the NSX and tune it several times or just got the essential parts without any tuning?

I can't wait to read the next one, keep it up guys:tup:.
 
Great write-up.

But I don't understand how you ended up picking the Ferrari over the NSX when the NSX beat its lap time, and had a faster acceleration. Only losing in the top speed test.
 
ReVoLuT1oN
Great write-up.

But I don't understand how you ended up picking the Ferrari over the NSX when the NSX beat its lap time, and had a faster acceleration. Only losing in the top speed test.
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I think it was a typo. He said to buy the ferrari and save 80k....

Anywho, great review! I liked it and can't wait for the next one.

How about a mclaren f1 vs mp4?
 
Ferrari california v.s lamborghini sv
Bmw m5 vs merc slr mclaren
Ferrari 512bb vs older premium vette ( not on gt5 right now, sorry)

By the way the report was great, i really liked it. Im suprised the nsx faired so well. Where the laps all standing start on TGTT?
 
Lamborghini Gallardo VS Lamborghini Aventador.

Chevrolet Camaro SS '10 VS Corvette ZR1 C6

'69 Camaro Z28 VS '08 Challenger SRT8

'70 Challenger VS Camaro SS '10

Ferrai 512BB VS Ferrari F430

Volkswagen Golf R VS Audi S3

Mazda MX5 VS Mazda RX7

Mazda MX5 VS Honda S2000

EVO X VS Nissan GTR R35

Corvette Z06 C5 VS Saleen S7
 
Im sorry fr saying the Ferrari won, I honestly don't know how that happened, I obvisouly meant the NSX won.. I will edit it when I get home, I'm currently at school (shhhh ;) ) and don't have time to edit it
 
Top Speed of the Honda: 209 Miles Per Hour, and get this, Stock Transmission!! Sorry Polyphony Digital, but I can assure you, the NSX wouldn't have that much gearing come stock, and it's not like that's all the gearing we had. It just reached terminal velocity :sly: In the Draft I'm sure we could break 220:dunce:. Fail?

What's the modified engine redlining at?
 
The pretty modest power of the stock NSX would never reach the red line of that huge 6th gear, so I think it was just designed for maximun torque. With the modified engine redlining at 9k, I'm not at all surprised by the amazing top speed.

MOTORTRENDmitch
one thing we found is that the front end grip in the NSX is amazing
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That's exactly why I love that car, it never understeers. The limit of grip is very high, and when you push past it you get very controllable oversteer. The perfect car!
 

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