Straightening out a slide...

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I've had a look in the drift posts but can't really see what I need to know.

Say I'm on a straight at around 100mph (no driving aids). I weave gently left and right until it starts to slide. Using the (newly acquired) DFP I have yet to able to avoid loosing it completely. In fast cars on the Nurburgring I'm spinning out accidentally in places which didn't happen with the DS2 even though feel I've got the hang of the DFP now and are redoing the licenses and picking up the Golds ok . If it slides (yaws) to the left, for example, I generally keep the power down, and steer right - which either has no effect at all, or, if I steer like mad to the right, it'll snap to the right at some unpredictable (to me) moment and I spin out that way. Should you lift off the power at any point?...apply more power etc.? Any advice as to technique to straighten the car out, or am a flogging a dead horse?
 
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I've had a look in the drift posts but can't really see what I need to know.

Say I'm on a straight at around 100mph (no driving aids). I weave gently left and right until it starts to slide. Using the (newly acquired) DFP I have yet to able to avoid loosing it completely. In fast cars on the Nurburgring I'm spinning out accidentally in places which didn't happen with the DS2 even though feel I've got the hang of the DFP now and are redoing the licenses and picking up the Golds ok . If it slides (yaws) to the left, for example, I generally keep the power down, and steer right - which either has no effect at all, or, if I steer like mad to the right, it'll snap to the right at some unpredictable (to me) moment and I spin out that way. Should you lift off the power at any point?...apply more power etc.? Any advice as to technique to straighten the car out, or am a flogging a dead horse?
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your in the wrong forum...but you need to countersteer while drift to maintain and to make your exit straight
 
try not turning the wheel so much or holding it turned for so long, keep motions smooth

the ds2 does this for you...when you crank the stick to the left the wheels dont go to the lock, they gradually move to and from center, with the dfp, the aids for this arent in place, so you have to do it

the main thing on recovery is you have to fight the force feedback as the car unloads, you have to snap it back quickly to keep things under control, just practice alot and you'll get the hang of it
 
I'm with AB. Generally, your instinct is to overcompensate... you don't need much turn to correct for a powerslide, even just 5-15 degrees is enough. It's all about practice.
 
GT4 has über-strong countersteer. Nothing you can do about it. :indiff:
 
thought this was kinda on topic, so why do you guys steer out of the turn when you are drifting? I find that if i do that while going around a turn, the car just whips back around, and flies of the track on the outside. what i do to stay in a drift is steer into the turn while I am driving. Does the car not have enough power or what is going wrong?
 
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thought this was kinda on topic, so why do you guys steer out of the turn when you are drifting? I find that if i do that while going around a turn, the car just whips back around, and flies of the track on the outside. what i do to stay in a drift is steer into the turn while I am driving. Does the car not have enough power or what is going wrong?
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it's b/c you need to practice.

you have to countersteer or the rear of the car will come around and spin you while you're on the gas. The problem is you are countersteering too much, or are not unwinding your countersteering quickly enough as the car returns to a more or less neutral state. It's nothing related to the vehicle's power - the majority of it is probably driver skill (don't take offence, it's an extremely common problem)

Do a quick search for your problem in the gt4 drift forum. It has been exhaustively covered - and it'a problem that nearly every single new member posts the instant they set foot in there.
 
bedheadben
thought this was kinda on topic, so why do you guys steer out of the turn when you are drifting? I find that if i do that while going around a turn, the car just whips back around, and flies of the track on the outside. what i do to stay in a drift is steer into the turn while I am driving. Does the car not have enough power or what is going wrong?
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Refer to my previous post (just above yours).
 
And remember DFP is an ANALOGIC device (like DS2 anyway) which must be operated progressively. It's just like in a real car.

I say that cause I remember a friend of mine (a few years ago).
He used to play video games like Need for Speed with a wheel (Mad Catz as far as I remember), and he didn't steer the wheel progressively but like a digital pad (successive full steerings).
And when he had his first driving lesson he did the same :crazy: and crashed the driving school's car after 10 meters. :lol:
 
a pretty good rule of thumb is half a turn (180 degrees from center) max

maybe a tad more depending on the turn, but all turns can be taken with less than that

most turns will be around 1/4 turn or 90degrees or less, you really dont have to crank the wheel around to get the car to react at speed

sometimes in a countersteer you may need a bit more if the rear is way out, but you dont ever need to go full lock with the wheel

that said i'm a dfp noob (got mine saturday) but i've managed to match my laptimes set using the ds2, so i'm happy :)
 
Ok, this has gone on long enough. I honestly don't see any reason to keep it going as there are lots of threads that deal with this situation.
 
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